Announcing Beta 0.80 (now Version 1.5) of DVDSubEdit

[jeanl]

mmm, DVDSubEdit uses DVD2AVI to display the video, so I'm not sure whether it's really able to handle MPEG1 streams.
Have you tried disabling the background video display?
Jeanl

[AlanHK]

mmm, DVDSubEdit uses DVD2AVI to display the video, so I'm not sure whether it's really able to handle MPEG1 streams.
Have you tried disabling the background video display?
Jeanl

I assume you mean the "Show video frame" checkbox?
Before I open a VOB this is inactive, I can't disable it. If I turn it off after I load the VOB then DVDSubedit immediately crashes and exits.

However, I found that I could select the "B" colour and change its transparency and save it, which is what I needed to do. (My subtitles will be placed over existing burnt-in subtitles, so I don't want the default transparent background that GfD makes.)

(Where is the transparency information stored? It doesn't seem to be in the CLUT, is it a parameter for each individual subtitle?)

Can I suggest that the "show video" control be made active BEFORE the VOBs are loaded, perhaps it will be more usable.

Also, the bitmap zoom window remains blank. I thought that was independent of the video?


I attach what DVDSubedit shows when I load an MPEG1 VOB.

[jeanl]

AlanHK, could you possibly send me a few megabytes of an mpeg1 vob at jeanldvd at free dot fr? 4 or 5 MB should be enough for me to do a couple tests...
Jeanl

[jeanl]

Ok, I confirm that DVDSubEdit can't deal with mpeg-1 video, and really does not behave nicely when it encounters that... :(
Jeanl

[jeanl]

Version 1.5 of DVDSubEdit is now available here (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/)...


There's an important bug fix having to do with moving subs by odd numbers of pixels, but the most important improvement is the preview with audio.

This is the change log since version 1.41.

Added support for real-time playback of video with audio and subtitles. There are two new buttons that can be used to play the video while displaying the subpictures. One plays the video normally, the other one loops around the current subpic. There is a drop down in the preferences for the frame-per-second adjustment, in case your machine is running out of cycles when playing video (which is possible because DVDSubEdit does not use the overlay buffer, and therefore consumes more cycle than a normal video playback engine).
Added support for VOB files larger than 1GB.
Added an option to only select subpics that are fully transparent.
Changed the behavior of the "Hide" button. Instead of making all pixels transparent, it assigns all pixels to "background".
Added better handling of non MPEG2 video (the video isn't displayed, which avoids crashing!).
Added an ini option (AutoForceDisplayVideo) to not automatically display the video when opening VOBs etc.
Finally fixed the problem of vertical moves by odd numbers of lines, by swapping the top and bottom fields when the top field ends up below the bottom field after a move. This should fix the problems with media player classic and other players.
Fixed a display problem that occurred when loading sup files with IFOs.
Fixed a bug that occurred in the OCR when subtitles were present at the top and at the bottom of the display, and one attempted to erase some characters at the bottom.
Fixed the wrong display of the number of MB scanned during the scanning of a VOB file.
Removed the "Not enough room for padding block" error (changed to a warning in the log since it's not crucial anyway).
When reloading from the MRU, the list of subpics is now updated as the reloading takes place.
Added better reporting of errors found in the subpic streams.
If the user aborts while a vob file is being analyzed, the vob is no longer put in the MRU.
Fixed a (very old) bug that could cause a subpic that had been moved down to cause a UI spillover when the background video wasn't displayed.
Fixed a problem that could occur when no CLUT was found (no IFO file for example).
Fixed cosmetic problems related to showing or hiding the background video.
Modified the way the subpic info is saved and loaded (for fast reloading of previously scanned DVDs). This simplifies the code and the file. As a result, the first time you run this version, none of your recently-used files will be available for fast-reload.
Fixed a bug in the "Save as sup file" function that prevented a new sup file from being created.
Added code to deal with a padding stream smack in the middle of our subpic data, as seen in DVDs created by ConvertXtoDVD.
Fixed a problem in the timecode display. The value didn't correspond to the time shown in a player if the PTS of the first VOBU wasn't close to 0.


Enjoy...
Jean

[Adub]

Wow!! You are still working on this?! Good to see some fresh development!

[jeanl]

Barely working on it :( ....
Jeanl

[ukendt]

http://download.videohelp.com/DVDSubEdit/

[FDuck]

jeanl, when I open and view a VOB in DVDSubEdit, I clearly see the subtitles throughout the video. I have Forced Start set to all. However when I play the VOB it does not show the subtitles. When I view the DVD itself on the disc with all of the associated information, the subtitles also show correctly (and automatically); there are not any specific subtitle files.

Do you have an idea about what structure/file is not copying over? I have used both DVDFab and DVDecrypter, selecting the appropriate options.

Any help would be appreciated.
Duck

[jeanl]

I'm not sure I understand what you do. You say "when I play the VOB ..." but what do you use to "play the VOB"?
Typically, apps that can play VOB files individually (like mediaplayerclassic for example) will not show subtitles, even if you have forced start on all of them. Only apps that play the DVD itself will be able to show the subtitles.
So I'm not sure what your problem is.
In short, to be able to show subtitles, you need all the files that are in the DVD (VOB and IFO files). If you just copy the VOB on a DVD, then play it somehow (many settop players would refuse to play that), then there's 0 chance that the subtitles will play.

But you don't give us any background as to what you're trying to do, so we can't help.
jeanl

[FDuck]

wow, my post is opaque; late nights, no sleep. Here we go again:

I put a DVD disc in my computer's DVD drive. I use PowerDVD to view it. I select subtitles on the movie main page in PowerDVD (turn subtitles "on"). I play the movie and can view/read those subtitles. So, I can see subtitles when direct from DVD.

I use DVDFab and/or use DVDecrypter to copy the DVD contents to my harddrive. I then use PowerDVD to view those files on my harddrive (the same ones I copied over). I do not see subtitles and the menu is grayed-out.

I use DVDSubEdit to open the "domain" files on my hard drive. I can easily see the subtitles. The subtitles are set to "Normal Start"; I change them all to "Forced Start" and then save all.

I use PowerDVD to play/view the files which I just saved. No subtitles are shown and menu is still grayed-out.

I have tried this procedure repeatedly using different DVDs, using different program options on both DVDecrypter and DVDFab - all without success in seeing the subtitles.

What am I missing?
Duck

[Csimbi]

Nice tool. Would it be possible to add subtitles to a DVD with this? (As a new feature.)

[jeanl]

Nice tool. Would it be possible to add subtitles to a DVD with this? (As a new feature.)

no, dvdsubedit works on the existing subs. There are many tools to add subs. The underlying problem is that when you do that, you have to grow the file (make space for the new packs with the subs info) and you have to mux the subs into the video and audio streams. That's not easy, and lengthy, and there are good tools for that, so that's why DVDSE does not support that.
J.

[laserfan]

I've not used it in a long time, but had occasion to use this terrific tool to move a bunch of DVD subtitles today. Worked great. A question and a comment:

1. Once I used "Hide subpic" button on a subtitle, it seemed there was no way to get it back except "Reload SPU from file". Izzat right? The Color/Transparency slider wouldn't work.

2. I'd forgotten about the "Hide hearing impaired text" feature and it is well-hidden in the OCR menu. ;) Man it works great, especially in that it takes-out the bracketed stuff even if it's embedded with other text. But I already re-did and burned my disc and am reluctant to use it again.

Guess I wanna suggest jeanl to call that menu Tools or some-such since the hearing impaired feature can be used w/o OCR'ing. Also--maybe after x years you will change this thread title to Lead with "DVDSubEdit"? :)

[jeanl]

I think you're right that once you hide the subpic you can't go back. It used to simply set the transparencies to full transparent on all the pixel types, but I think it removes the bitmap now.

As far as removing hearing impaired subpics, this does require OCR, which is why it's in the OCR menu. You can't hide the subpics for hearing impaired, unless you know the contents, hence the requirement for OCR first.

As far as the title of this thread, you're right! It might be time to update it! :D
Jeanl

[laserfan]

...removing hearing impaired subpics, this does require OCR, which is why it's in the OCR menu. You can't hide the subpics for hearing impaired, unless you know the contents, hence the requirement for OCR first.
Ah, then selectively removing those is magical indeed, especially as it seems to happen in the wink of an eye. ;)

Well, the thread/tool certainly deserved a bump--I had to search on 'jeanl' as I didn't even see it in the stickies! :o

[kristian65]

Any plans of making this great program working with BD??
Or any other easy way to force subs on BD subs