Announcing Beta 0.80 (now Version 1.5) of DVDSubEdit

[CoNS]

Yes, I noticed that some hearing impaired subs are like that, but GOCR makes many mistakes detecting capitalized letters, so I'll wait until these mistakes are fixed, which could take a while!I think it's going to be very hard to automate the process of removing this specific type of hearing impaired subpics. The syntax is not always "MAN: Get down from there, kids.". Sometimes it's "Man: ..." or "MAN : ..." or "Man : ...".

jeanl is currently thinking about implementing a function to let the user manually remove parts of a subpic. If (or when!) this is implemented, you could easily deal with this specific type of hearing impaired text this way:

1. Run OCR
2. Use the filter function to show only subpics with ":"
3. If there's unwanted text in those subpics, use the manual removal function to get rid of it!

Audionut, does the same thing happen if you save the subpics as a .spu then reload this .spu file? If it does, then can you send me the spu file (jeanldvd at free dot fr)?jeanl, you mean .sup file, right?!

[jeanl]

jeanl, you mean .sup file, right?!
Yes, sorry!
jeanl

[Audionut]

Audionut, does the same thing happen if you save the subpics as a .spu then reload this .spu file?


No it doesn't.

I can also confirm that the problem only occurs when the vob file only has the subpitcure stream in it.

ie: If I don't demux the video and audio from the vob file than it works fine.

next: If I load the vob file that only has the subpiture stream, and disable the "show video frame" option. Then the problem goes away. However, it does not show the video (naturally), but nor does it show the subtitles.

[jeanl]

Aaaaaaahhhhh!
You're in a very special case! You're telling me that you created a vob file, which only has subpictures in it? Could you possibly send me that vob file? jeanldvd at free dot fr? I'd love to take a look!
jeanl

[bourtzovlakas]

A .VOB with only subtitle strems can be produced, using the demux option(enable stream processing) of DVD Decrypter, in IFO mode...
But DVDSubEdit has problems opening this kind of .VOBs, if "show video frame" option is checked...

[jeanl]

Of course, I can imagine why... The DVDPreview code is looking for video data, but can't find any! I'll have to check that...
jeanl

[jeanl]

Version 1.2 of DVDSubEdit is now available here (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/)...


Main new features are the ability to select and erase words or characters in the subtitles, and support for the 3 16:9 display modes (widescreen, pan&scan and letterboxed).

Here's the change log from Version 1.1

Added code to select an area in the OCR output and erase it (both in the OCR output, and the bitmap).
Added option to automatically remove text like "Man:" in subtitles
Added option to adjust word detection in the OCR setup panel.
Added Letterboxed and Pan&Scan video display modes for 16:9 material.
Added text in stream select to indicate which display mode(s) each stream is intended for.
Added option to only show forced subpics.
Added a check box to show the I-frame closest to the selected SPU end time (duration slider).
Added a smarter check for figuring out the video format when loading a .sup file.
Added a warning in the log file if closed-captions are detected in the MPEG stream.
The function to remove hearing-impaired text now runs in its own thread.
Pressing Alt or Ctrl while dragging a subpic allows horizontal-only or vertical-only moves.
Fixed OCR problems. The list is too long to show.
Fixed a crash that could happen in 1.1 if you moved a subpic all the way down.
Fixed a problem with the borders not adapting with PAL/NTSC video format
Fixed a scaling problem that cause the subpics to be slightly cropped in no-video, full-screen mode.
Fixed the safe-area values for the borders. Thanks to r0lZ for the help!
Fixed the "keyboard input problem" (after a threaded operation (OCR for example) the shortcuts didn't work).
Fixed once and for all the progress dialog not disappearing if a threaded operation finishes while the app is minimized.


Thanks to CoNS for many additional tests, and many many suggestions for improvements.
Feedback is most welcome!
Enjoy...
Jeanl

[bourtzovlakas]

:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

[jeanl]

Version 1.3 of DVDSubEdit is now available here (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/)...


Main new features are the ability to modify the CLUT colors, a new zoom window to better see the subpics, and more customizations of default colors and behavior.
Here's the change log from Version 1.2


Added ability to modify the IFO clut directly from DVDSubEdit. Click a pixel tile, then shift-click in the CLUT display.
Added a "zoom" window that can show the useful part of the bitmap with a 1:1 scaling.
Added automatic selection of display mode when the user changes the stream selection. This can be disabled in the .ini file.
Added option to see OCR result on the original subpic (before any modification). That's useful for checking what the Hearing-Impaired removal tool does.
Added checkbox in OCR setup to allow case-sensitive searches on OCR output.
Added possibility to choose the default text and background colors when in "AutoCLUT" mode.
Added Preferences panel that includes general settings, OCR setup, and Hearing-impaired tool setup. The panel now includes options to change background color, alert if closed captions are found, and ask to load IFOs when loading .sup files.
Added OCR code to detect tied 'fl' 'ft' and 'fi'.
The "Save all modifications" menu now also works for .sup files (modifications are written back to the original .sup).
Save all modifications now saves modification in *all* subpics (not just the selected ones).
Border settings are saved in the .ini file (C:\Documents and Settings\YourName\Application Data\DVDSubEdit.ini). You can edit them to change the default values.
Fixed yet another stupid border problem with PAL movies.
Fixed a few problem with the automatic recognition of hearing-impaired text.
Fixed a (rare) problem where the true subtitle bottom line was not detected correctly.
Fixed a display mess-up when fast-reloading a PAL movie.
Fixed an OCR problem that occured when some subpics were moved up.
Fixed a bug that could cause operations on a subset of the SPUs to abort prematurely.
The built-in pdf user manual (F1) is more or less up to date.


Also, don't forget to checkout CoNS's cool guide (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/Guides/HearingImpaired/guide.htm) for removing hearing-impaired subtitles!

As usual, thanks to CoNS for many additional tests, and many many suggestions for improvements.
Feedback is most welcome!
Enjoy...
Jeanl

[svcdprayer]

Hi Jean!

In 1.2 version ive seen many improvements. 1.3 havent tested yet. But i can see that youre improving gocr. How come you succeeded to manage it so fast since it was horrible thing. Maybe we can still expect to add foreign characters of diff language ? :)

Ill test 1.3 asap to see how it goes.

Keep up a good work man!

Thanks!

Cons thanks is going to you too!

[jeanl]

svcdprayer,
I don't think I can say that I master the GOCR code, just enough to add a few things here, and change a few others there... As far as extending it to include more foreign characters, that's a bit tricky. Do you have programming skills? Do you want to try to tackle that?
jeanl

[svcdprayer]

I dont think that i can tackle that if you cant :) Maybe some other guys could help?

But i can tell you what codes i have to replace for wich character of my language. Regarding to fixing ocr i think that would go forever since there are many diff dvds around, and on 1.2 i saw that some subpics gocr found joined words instead of separated. You think its possible to fix that, or better how hard is it. Maybe again detection subpic has to do with it?

But in other words i think you added gocr here for one purpose at first to remove easily hearing impaired subs if im right. So its really unthanksful to push you beyond. But hopefully thats why we are all here.

Thanks!

[DeNiro]

What a marvellous program! Yesterday i had trouble re-syncing a DVD subtitle, demuxing, resyncing, muxing, testing bla bla bla, today i found out about this program. Many hours of tearing my ("non-existing] hair could have been spared if i only knew about this program earlier. Playing around with version 1.3 and its simply amazing!!! Very well done jeanl!!!

Found a few problems though, mainly concerning the OCR function i think. When ocr a sub and after that removing the hearing impaired related text, there still some remains left because of the fact that the ocr function sees the ] bracket as a J, the capital j that is. At least it did it on my copy of Brokeback Mountain. The problem might be that the text, besides being inside brackets, also was in italics.

A few questions also. The film that yesterday made me go ape had its subs outta sync after like 40 minutes of the movie, what is the best way to correct such issues? Can i input start and end time for the sub and get it automagically in sync that way? And second, the subs are displayed in three lines, and i would like to get it in two, max 40 characters on each line. Is it possible to do that?

Otherwise i am highly impressed, cant wait to see the further development of something that is already a very very good tool!

[jeanl]

Thanks for the feedback DeNiro!
The ] mistaken for J is a very common problem, usually caused by italics (you're right). In a future version, I'd like to detect italics on a word basis (instead of the current line-basis) which might help eliminate such problems.
I'm surprised your subs were out of sync after a while! How did you get to this point? Was it like that in the original?
To correct missynchronization, you can do:
- By hand, for every subs, setting either the absolute time, or the offset by which you want to change the timing. But this can be very tedious if you have many to do
- You can adjust a group of subpics, using the Re-time selected subpics button. For example, you could select all subpics in a given VCID (a chapter for example), and change their timing (by a specific amount of milliseconds).

The version you're using forces you to do that blindly. I have a new version that can also display the video when you select the amount by which to change the timing. It's better but not perfect (because you don't get the sound, which is usually crucial for sub timing).
To change the duration of each sub, you can use the duration slider. You can also apply that on a bunch of subtitles by selecting them (for example, selecting a specific VCID), and "applying to all".

DVDSubEdit can't re-arrange your subtitles for you (e.g. from 3 lines to 2). This will really require reauthoring your subs, which might not be that hard in fact...

Jeanl

[DeNiro]

Thanks for the feedback DeNiro!
The ] mistaken for J is a very common problem, usually caused by italics (you're right). In a future version, I'd like to detect italics on a word basis (instead of the current line-basis) which might help eliminate such problems.

Looking forward to that, for now it can be accomplished manually so it is no biggie really. Automation is good though :D

I'm surprised your subs were out of sync after a while! How did you get to this point? Was it like that in the original?

Beats me, i helped my neighbour to make a backup of his legally purchased DVD but sorry to say i didnt check the backup against the original so i cant say for sure. From about 40 minutes into the movie the subs started go outta sync and at the end it was a difference of about 5 seconds. I wish i had knowledge about your program before i started to resync it, would at least saved the wifey thing sore ears :rolleyes:

To correct missynchronization, you can do:
- By hand, for every subs, setting either the absolute time, or the offset by which you want to change the timing. But this can be very tedious if you have many to do
- You can adjust a group of subpics, using the Re-time selected subpics button. For example, you could select all subpics in a given VCID (a chapter for example), and change their timing (by a specific amount of milliseconds).

The version you're using forces you to do that blindly. I have a new version that can also display the video when you select the amount by which to change the timing. It's better but not perfect (because you don't get the sound, which is usually crucial for sub timing).
To change the duration of each sub, you can use the duration slider. You can also apply that on a bunch of subtitles by selecting them (for example, selecting a specific VCID), and "applying to all".

Sweet, i´ll try that next time.....

DVDSubEdit can't re-arrange your subtitles for you (e.g. from 3 lines to 2). This will really require reauthoring your subs, which might not be that hard in fact...

Jeanl

Thats what i did, but with my limited skills it took some time to fix it. Demux, fix the subs, reauthor, and all that without a deep knowledge about available tools to use.......The outcome was not perfect, but it´ll do for now, i´m still learning :D

[johner23]

Hi, dear all.

jeanl, I have some doubts about your program.

I use to rip my dvd's using DVD Decrypter, but just subtitle files ( sups) inside the vobs (audio and video I don't) to my HD.

Doing that way, I can rip / reading them easier and faster instead doing directly using my dvd reader device + sub rip, for example.

Well, my question is: I've some hard subtitles dvd's that sub rip can't read properly, because OCR can't recognize some words.

Can I rip just sup files + vobs to my HD and using DVDSubEdit later for changing the colors, making easier for subrip or even your program to read them? And, if it's not possible at this moment, can you put that feature in DVDSubEdit?

PS 1: funny, in my specifical dvd disc, sub rip can't read / ocr properly the subs, but your program could read almost of the subs, instead appears some optical / graphical errors in recognition.

Do you intend to improve more DVDsubedit OCR engine in future, because I guess, for particular cases that sub rip can't handle them, maybe DVDSubEdit can? And getting better and better OCR just help us a lot.

PS 2: some programs such ABBYY FineReader ( http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_ocr/ ) use some OCR mechanisms for scanning books and similar ones into text with great accuracy. Well, there is a way to use such OCR systems but instead for OCR books, they're adapted for reading dvd's subs streams? It's possible for you to create similar OCR mechanism into DVDSubEdit for reading subs purposes?

Thanks and nice work !! Your program is really nice !!

devil (johner)

[jeanl]

Hi johner23
I'm not sure what you mean by "hard subtitles"... If you mean subtitles that are hard-coded into the video, then DVDSubEdit can't do anything about that. But if that's the case, you won't be able to rip them to .sup format, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that.
About OCR.... SubRip is very good provided you have the right database for the characters used in your subs. DVDSubEdit uses GOCR (with lots of modifications), and does not use a database. Sometimes it works really well, some other times, it does not do that well. Improving it is really difficult and as you can imagine, it's a never ending task. I don't think i'll be improving it that much, except to fix re-occuring problems.
I don't know ABBYY FineReader, I'm sure they're good (if you're going to pay for an OCR package, it better be good!). Unfortunately, they're not open source! I'm using GOCR because that seemed to be the best open-source OCR program available.

Jeanl

[CoNS]

I'm not sure what you mean by "hard subtitles"... If you mean subtitles that are hard-coded into the video, then DVDSubEdit can't do anything about that. But if that's the case, you won't be able to rip them to .sup format, so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that.I think he means "problematic" or "difficult" subtitles...

I use to rip my dvd's using DVD Decrypter, but just subtitle files ( sups) inside the vobs (audio and video I don't) to my HD.

Doing that way, I can rip / reading them easier and faster instead doing directly using my dvd reader device + sub rip, for example.

Well, my question is: I've some hard subtitles dvd's that sub rip can't read properly, because OCR can't recognize some words.

Can I rip just sup files + vobs to my HD and using DVDSubEdit later for changing the colors, making easier for subrip or even your program to read them? And, if it's not possible at this moment, can you put that feature in DVDSubEdit?AFAIK, changing the colour of the subtitles will not make any difference to the OCR result in SubRip. The only thing that matters in the OCR process is how the four pixel types in the subpic is used. That's how it works in DVDSubEdit, anyway.

Also, notice that SubRip is not able to read SUP files.

And yes, you can extract your subtitle stream from the DVD to a SUP file, using DVD Decrypter, PgcDemux or ... DVDSubEdit. And you can load this SUP file into DVDSubEdit later on and edit it (change colours or whatever you like), and also run OCR in DVDSubEdit on this SUP file, if you like.

[johner23]

Yes, when I said "hard" I mean to say "difficult" to be read by Sub Rip. Even if I try some settings in Sub Rip, some parts of them wasn't be able to be OCR'ed. :D

Strange: when I try your program in that particular case, the OCR could be done almost perfectly ( well, some words were not so well OCR'ed. But no problem at all, because I can fix that using Notepad, for example)

The only thing that matters in the OCR process is how the four pixel types in the subpic is used

In my case or similar problematic / difficult OCR situations, there is a way or feature that can work on about "the four pixel in the subpics" as you point, changing or editing them, making easier to be OCR'ed?

eg: in original dvd subtitles I found some difficulties to make them readable by Sub Rip or other tools. I wanna edit or modifying them in a way to make possible after these "treatment" now being able to be OCR'ed by Sub Rip or others later.

I mentioned Abbyy program thinking if you could get some ideas in how to improve OCR engine about DVDSubEdit observing how the Abbyy program works.

But I think that their code are closed and difficult to study and analyse how does it OCR system works... :(

But, despite of that, congratulation about your program, because its a very nice program !!

Best regards.

devil (johner)

[jeanl]

Thanks devil!
Yes, there's no hope of getting any info from Abbyy, and besides, writing a whole new OCR is a very big task (and never-ending!)...
Jeanl

[CoNS]

In my case or similar problematic / difficult OCR situations, there is a way or feature that can work on about "the four pixel in the subpics" as you point, changing or editing them, making easier to be OCR'ed?

eg: in original dvd subtitles I found some difficulties to make them readable by Sub Rip or other tools. I wanna edit or modifying them in a way to make possible after these "treatment" now being able to be OCR'ed by Sub Rip or others later.I haven't tried it, but it *might* make a difference to the OCR result in both SubRip and DVDSubEdit if you first open the DVD in DVDSubEdit and set the pixel type used for the outline (and maybe also the pixel type used for anti-aliasing) to clear (transparency = 0), i.e. make the subtitle characters more "thin".

My thought is that it could give you a better OCR output in some cases where the characters tend to merge into each other...

jeanl (and ai4spam wrt SubRip) can probably confirm or deny if changing the outline (and anti-aliasing) transparency would make any difference in the OCR process.

[ai4spam]

In SubRip, only the text color is taken into account, everything else is discarded.
I'm planning to introduce support for gOCR in SubRip, especially now that JeanL is working on improving it.

[CoNS]

Ok, thanks ai4spam. Just to clarify: It doesn't matter if the colour of the text pixels is yellow or white, right?

BTW, how do you determine which of the four pixel types is used for the text pixels (the inside of the subtitle characters)? It seems to vary from DVD to DVD. Are you selecting the (non-transparent) pixel type with the lightest colour?

[jeanl]

DVDSubEdit works the same: only the text color is taken into account. In 99% of the cases, that's the way to go, but I've seen examples where the text was so thin that it would have helped to include anti-alias pixels...
jeanl
P.S. I'm not working that much on GOCR, but I'll show you where to make improvements if you want to take over!!! :)

[CoNS]

I'm planning to introduce support for gOCR in SubRip, especially now that JeanL is working on improving it.I'm not working that much on GOCR, but I'll show you where to make improvements if you want to take over!!! :)A joint venture to improve the GOCR code between two of the most skilled and hard working DVD subtitle programmers?! That would be awesome! :D

BTW, ai4spam, I know SubRip currently doesn't support SUP files, but if you're interested I have a large number of SUP files with corresponding IFOs on my harddisk which I could mail to you, with a description of GOCR output "bugs" for those SUPs. Might be a help if you going to test the GOCR code thoroughly.

[johner23]

@Ai4spam, can you make SubRip be able to read sup ( demuxed from audio and video files from vobs ) files like DVdSubedit does?

PS: it will be very interesting to see GOCR improved and adapted into SubRip OCR engine too. ;)

@Jeanl, which features do you intend to improve/add in DVDSubEdit engine in a near future? :)

Thanks.

[jeanl]

:) funny, I thought I said I was not working much on the OCR these days?!!! :D :D
The next thing I'll look into will be word detection and word-wise italics detection. This will help solve many of the current problems.
But don't expect that anytime soon... unless of course you learn C++!!!
Jeanl

[CoNS]

:) funny, I thought I said I was not working much on the OCR these days?!!! :D :DThat was yesterday... Long, long time ago!! :D

[ai4spam]

@CoNS: The color is estimated statistically (I don't know exactly how, I thnk it's the color with the second to least number of pixels) for each subpicture, but can also be assigned manually. That's what that window is for, to put antialiased color in as well, if desired.

@CoNS and johner23: I *could* support .sup files in SubRip if one would give me the C code and I could make a .dll with functions to give me bitmaps and timestamps. Other than that, translating C code to Pascal is not high on my list right now (busy w/ tons of other stuff).

@JeanL: The only aspect of gOCR I had problems with was lack of support for diacritics in some Eastern European languages, so maybe I could look into that a bit.

I'm also looking into a slower, but more flexible OCR engine, as well as "proper" OCR (neural networks), but the problem is that they're really slow to train. I may devise a way to leave the training running overnight for a particular font, or provide trained nets separately.

[jeanl]

Yes, diacritics are not handled well, but that's not going to be very easy to fix, it's a bit of a jungle in there. As far as neural network solutions, I have seen that in some places, but I wonder if it's going to work that much better. In any case, if it requires to be trained on a specific set of fonts, then it's not that great, is it?
jeanl

[ai4spam]

@JeanL: I'd be happy to see accents properly recognized on top of all letters, which is not the case now.
As for neural networks, well, I'm thinking of using my own similarity engine to determine which font is the closest, then train the network on it or use previous training data. There must be something good in them if professional products such as Recognita use them ;).

[johner23]

There must be something good in them if professional products such as Recognita use them

That was the reason that I point Abbyy program before: I don't know if it's the better choice for OCR or recognizing characters. But, according some people, it's a good software for that purpose.

And there are some other professional applications like Recognita/OmniPage that must have a great OCR engine.

The main problem is that they're closed source. :(

So, how to study their OCR system /engine to see their strong points and maybe adapt them for the main purposes from SubRip and DVDSubEdit in reading dvd subtitles streams?

But, no doubt that both Subrip and DVDSubEdit improve a lot in a short period of time. :)

Thanks for your programs, guys.

devil (johner)

[ai4spam]

There are open source OCR programs, besides gOCR, which is just "recognizing" strokes (no neural networks). I'll look into it.

[jeanl]

I only found one other one, and it didn't look as promising. GOCR approach is quite outdated, nobody would do it that way these days... But you have to admit it does not work that bad for something completely coded *by hand* (absolutely no learning from any data!).
jeanl

[jeanl]

Version 1.32 of DVDSubEdit is now available here (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/)...


This is mainly a bug-fix update, but a few annoying things have been fixed.


Added slider to the retiming dialogs, and the preview shows the I-frame closest to target location for the current subpicture. The slider range can be changed in the preferences.
You can now change the transparency of multipe pixels, and applly-to-all in just one shot (just like with color changes).
Fixed the annoying interactions between "Ignore CLUT" and "Auto CLUT" check boxes.
Cleaned up the way the "ShowVideo" check box behaves when loading VOBs and sups.
The true bottom line detection is more reliable than before (hopefully!). Still not perfect.
Added menu to open CoNS's hearing-impaired guide.
If you cancel after changing the CLUT color, the original CLUT is now restored.
Fixed a bug that was introduced in the previous version in the routine that detects brackets, which could cause good subtitles to be erased!
Added a check to detect NTSC subpics in PAL video (that scenario previously crashed the app).
Added a few error checks when loading subs, to avoid crashing when encountering malformed SPUs.


Also, don't forget to checkout CoNS's cool guide (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/Guides/ChangingColors/Guide.htm) for changing subtitle colors!

As usual, thanks to CoNS for many additional tests, and many many suggestions for improvements.
Feedback is most welcome!
Enjoy...
Jeanl

[deryckb]

Thanks for the work you have put in on DVDSubEdit. It is an excellent utility that i have been using to correct errors in the subtitles extracted from a DVB recording.

An additional feature I would like to see is to be able to apply all changes to a selected color/transparency, this would also allow the removal of effects subtites. For a bad recording I currently have to set all the text to single setting, which isn't ideal.

A minor inconvenience I find is the default of Exactly for changing the timings of subtitles on the apply last modifications to all. I would prefer it to be at most. Again this is because I sometimes get and invalid time. I suppose ideally a search for overlaping subtitles might be good idea?

[jeanl]

I'm not sure what you mean by "apply all changes to a selected color/transparency". YOu can already do that, is that not working for you?
Also, you'd like the default to be changed in the subtitle timing? Is it too hard to use the drop down to select whatever option you like better????
jeanl

[manusse]

Hi jeanl,

I am presently working with Paddington on the next version of SubtitleCreator. This version will allow to preview the subtitle on top the the DVD video.

We still have some timing adjustments to make.

To better understand our timings, I wanted to use DVDSubEdit to look at the video frame being displayed with the start of each subtitle. For this purpose, I created my own DVD with each frame holding the bitmap of the actual video time code. I also added to the DVD some custom subtitles holding the time code.

However when I look at my subtitles with DVDSubEdit, it seems that the video frame being displayed is not the one that should be displayed but some frame next to it.

You can see a screen copy here:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2387/dvdsub7fh.png (http://imageshack.us)

00:01:19-17 is the time code of the video.
00:01:20-00 is the subtitle displayed by DVDSubEdit.

(Current subpic info gives the time code of the subtitle: 00:01:20,000)

I suppose this is because there is no real mpeg2 decoder in DVDSubEdit and you can only display I-frames?

Thanks for your software!
:thanks:

[jeanl]

You're absolutely right. DVDSubEdit only displays I-Frames (because DVD2AVI can only pause on I-Frames). The frame displayed is the I-Frame just before the subpic, and that's somewhat inaccurate :(
I'm afraid fixing that in DVD2AVI would be hard forme...
Jeanl

[Mug Funky]

@ jeanl:

i just stumbled upon this proggy (slipped under my radar initially i think). very cool.

on your last comment: perhaps try DGindex? i think that can decode all frames, but i'm not sure. should be pretty easy to swap it for DVD2AVI. definitely easier than modding DVD2AVI yourself.

[jeanl]

hi Mug Funky,
in fact, it would have been a good idea to start with DGIndex right off the bat, but unfortunately, I learned about it too late and I had already started making changes to DVD2AVI (which i really need now). DVD2AVI does decode all frames, the only thing it does not do at this point is stop on any arbitrary one. I'm not sure DGIndex can stop on any non-I-frame arbitrary frame, but I don't think so...
jeanl

[jeanl]

Version 1.33 of DVDSubEdit is now available here (http://www.videohelp.com/~DVDSubEdit/)...


This is a small update with a few bug fixes and a couple improvements.


Added display of timing in the subpic info.
Added ability to change the transparency or color in all DCSQT at the same time.
Fixed a crash that could happen when removing hearing impaired text.
Fixed a crash that could happen upon startup on Win ME and Win 98.
Added a quick fix for the startup crash problem. Put a line in your ini file with NoSize=1 to avoid resizing the window on startup (which causes a crash).
Fixed a problem in the timing info saved in .srt files, thanks mpucoder for the clarification.
Cleaned up the GUI.


Enjoy...
Jeanl

[Erynnis]

Your tool is quite impressive. It is about the tool I am looking for.

I look for a tool with which I could add a subtitle stream to a DVD (or recompile a DVD with a new subtitle stream). There are a couple of films where I'd like to add some subtitle streams (or translate or correct some). For this I need a very userfriendly program, where I could browse through the DVD, play the movie with any audio stream, allowing easy and precise rewinding and forwarding, and very fine, easy and quick time adjustment of the subpictures I create.

Is DVDSubEdit going to be like this?

[jeanl]

No, not really. For this you need something like subtitle creator, or something like that. DVDSubEdit can't add a subtitle stream and it can't play the movie with the sound and the subs....
Sorry...
Jeanl

[manusse]

Hi,

As jeanl replied, SubtitleCreator 2.0.0 (will be available in a few weeks) will be exactly what you need. You will be able to play the audio you want and the sub you want. At the same time, you will be able to preview your subtitles.

It will also include a DVD authoring wizard which allows to automatically add one or more subpicture streams using pgcdemux, muxman and vobblanker.

You can try version 1.9.2 but you can't preview the subs on top of the video and you have to add your subpicture streams to your DVD by hand.

Manusse

[paully]

Hi Jeanl

What a fantastic program.

Can I make a suggestion?

Options to invert the selection of modified and forced subpics would be nice.

Maybe a dropdown with;
‘ ’ ‘show only’ ‘hide all’ modified subpics
‘ ’ ‘show only’ ‘hide all’ forced subpics

I’d like to make all subpics which are not forced invisible.
Can you suggest how I might do this? (without doing it one at a time)

[jeanl]

Select all subpics. Make them all transparent. Select the forced subpics, make them opaque... Easy no?
Jeanl

[Teebeeke]

Damn, this piece of software has made the work much faster, and easier.

Q: Will it be possible in the near/far future to change the contents of the subs ?

[jeanl]

That's much harder. For one thing, you need to re-encode the bitmap, and it has to fit in the number of packs that were used in the original bitmap, so there could be many cases where that would fail...
You can already alter the content, but only to remove letters and move things around... Pretty limited...
jeanl

[laserfan]

To make the subs less obtrusive, I've used DVDSubEdit to reduce the transparency e.g. move '15' down to '6' and the subs are still readily view-able without being blinding. I also move them down a bit to get them more out of the line-of-vision. What a great tool jeanl!

In a similar vein, I wonder if it might be possible to reduce the *size* of the subpics somehow, and then they can be further moved around on the screen?