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AGKnotUser

20th January 2007, 06:18

Which Removegrain should be used with the MT_Masktools version of SeeSaw, 0.9 or 1.0 beta?

Pookie

20th January 2007, 06:24

The one on the first page of this thread.

xbox360

1st February 2007, 23:55

This is my script:

DirectshowSource("C:\Movies\My Clip.mpg", fps=25, audio=false).ConvertToYV12
Bob(height=480)
BicubicResize(720,480,0,0.5)
ChangeFPS(60000, 1001)
SeparateFields.SelectEvery(4,0,3)

Can someone please modify it to use seesaw, please & thank you.

also where to download LimitedSupport_02Dec05.dll ?

xbox360

2nd February 2007, 01:03

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrainSSE2.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RepairSSE2.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\SeeSaw.avs")
DirectshowSource("D:\ConvertXtoDVD\MTV\VR_MOVIE.mpg", fps=25, audio=false)
ConvertToYv12
Bob(height=480)
BicubicResize(720,480,0,0.5)
ChangeFPS(60000, 1001)
SeparateFields.SelectEvery(4,0,3)
Weave
a = last
b=a.degrainmedian
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Szp=16)

It's now working ! YAY !

beviet

14th February 2007, 14:57

Hi,
I've reading all of this stuff and source of understand and not understand, I am using avisynth with dvdrebuilder.
Could some one post a see-saw script for rebuilder please???
Also, is see-saw=sharpening + denoise ( in one together )?
Thanks

steve77

21st February 2007, 17:59

I just tried it out and noticed a very subtle difference between the source and the "SeeSawed" version. Good, but subtle.

I just did a basic:

Mpeg2Source("...")
a=last
SeeSaw(a)

The source in question is a 2500kbps WMV file, which seems to have been made from a high quality source.

Questions:
1-I'm definately not getting the same changes as in the first post of this thread. It's MUCH more subtle.
2-I didn't use a denoiser, and the only one I know if is Convolution3d, which is old, as I understand it. Could sombody suggest a good denoiser? I have a fast machine, so I'm looking for the best quality within a reasonable time frame (MCBOB for me is just barely reasonable as a deinterlacer, speed wise).

Thanks so much for the assistance.

Steve

nurbs

21st February 2007, 20:14

I have only been playing around with it for a couple of days myself, but I will try to help. :)

1 - The parameters in the first post sharpen more than the defaults you are using. Also the choice of denoiser has some influence on the outcome.
2 - If you don't specify a denoiser some default filter is used. In the first post degrainmedian and vaguedenoiser are mentioned. There is also removegrain, fft3dfilter (rather slow) and fft3dgpu (if your gpu can handle it) just to name a few. I suggest you consult the threads to these filters if you want to know more.

Pookie

22nd February 2007, 21:58

Can't really recommend a denoiser without seeing your source. Post a screen cap.

Try some of the examples on the first page with the exact same plugins and settings.

I've found Fluxsmooth to be a nice and fast denoiser for high quality sources, but again, your source will dictate the denoiser choice and the strength settings.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Fluxsmooth.dll")

a=last
b=a.FluxsmoothST()
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Szp=16)

steve77

24th February 2007, 19:52

Ok, I have got everything working the way I want it. It's an AMAZING filter. Thanks Didée.

The major problem is that on large uniformly colored surfaces, it would get SUPER noisy (a wall, for example)

Then I played wiht sootheS, and it made all the diffrence. Setting it to 100 removed all of the detail, but at 50 + another pass of MedianDegrain(Mode=4) and I get truly AMAZING results. Like night and day.

Does this happen to others? I haven't seen many people play with sootheS much.

I'd share my results, but the caps are a litte racy (no nudity of course). If it were allowable for women in lingerie, I'd post so you may comment on the great results I've obtained.

Keepitsimple

8th March 2007, 08:02

Hello Im using the avisynth box within ffdshow and Im trying to use this script for dvd playback
LoadPlugIn("E:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")
a= last
b= a.RemoveGrainSSE3(mode=2)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)

But avisynth says: Script error: there is no function named "RemoveGrainSSE3"

foxyshadis

8th March 2007, 08:14

All versions of RemoveGrain are still called RemoveGrain internally. The suffix is only there for you to distiguish them, they're all the same to avisynth. (The exception is if you're testing more than one, then you can use RemoveGrainSSE3_RemoveGrain(), but you almost never need that capability.)

Keepitsimple

8th March 2007, 08:39

Thx for the quick response!

I noticed that my cpu utilization went to 100% so I installed the MT plugin (version 0.7 and replaced the avisynth.dll in system32). Im now using this
a= last
b= a.RemoveGrain(mode=2)
MT("SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)",3)
However avisynth says: MT: Function changed the hight! Try splitvertical=true

Also do you know of any good deinterlacers that can run MT and in realtime? I have a e6600 and can OC to 3.3Ghz if I have to.

TheRainmaker

8th March 2007, 17:28

I am tried many times to get answers to my questions about sharpen but never found corrects...
I found right place(this thread) to get all my answers...

But i don't know anything about typing avisynth...
If i learn i want use avisynth scripts for all my rips...

So which scripts usefull for best results?

I read all of thread but i couldn't understand good enough!
There are many test codes here and i complicated!

And can i use GKnot for encoding?

If i;
(I got following code when encoding is finished in GKnot,The output video is not sharpened its so blurid)
I hurt from some forums if you use the right scripts you can get great quality than DVD!
Is that true?
# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v")

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(2,72,716,432)

# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(720,304)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()

# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmoothST(5,7)

# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmoothST(7,7)

# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmoothST(10,15)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(93,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)

I want to go edit codes as like yours:
a = last

b=a.degrainmedian(mode=2).VagueDenoiser(threshold=0.8, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=0.8)

SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)
Which lines has to go edit for SeeSaw sharpening and which line has to go delete?
I downloaded all needed tools and Avisynth 2.5.7?

So which is the easyway to use SeeSaw?

Or where can i start to use SeeSaw?

Thanks for all your helps...

Pookie

8th March 2007, 20:16

Loadplugin("RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("Masktools.dll")

Import("SeeSaw.avs")

a=last
b=a.Degrainmedian(mode=1)
SeeSaw(..................... your settings here)

Terranigma

8th March 2007, 21:38

Instead of degrainmedian, you should use Soothe.
Also, you might wanna increase supersampling for both horizontal, vertical areas to avoid aliasing.

Boulder

8th March 2007, 22:01

Did you mean SPresso as Soothe is not a denoiser?

Terranigma

8th March 2007, 22:14

Did you mean SPresso as Soothe is not a denoiser?

Of course I know Soothe's not a denoiser. I said Soothe for temporal stabilization. He/she would be better off using mvdegrain as a denoiser (IMO).

Pookie

8th March 2007, 22:51

Yeah, you're right. Didn't see the page before where he wanted to use it for playback. That playback stuff always entertains me, Probably because the next question will be how to "fix" Avisynth so you can play a DVD at full res on a 2.8P4:D Doesn't jeremy have a thread on realtime playback with SeeSaw ?

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 00:08

Doesn't jeremy have a thread on realtime playback with SeeSaw ?
Yes. I had to search for it myself since I accidentally deleted all my bookmarks. Here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=873467#post873467)'s the thread.

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 08:12

Loadplugin("RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("Masktools.dll")

Import("SeeSaw.avs")

a=last
b=a.Degrainmedian(mode=1)
SeeSaw(..................... your settings here)
Thank you so much Pookie :)

Can I add them too?

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\filters\DeGrainMedian\degrainmedian.dll")
ConverttoYV12()

Instead of degrainmedian, you should use Soothe.
Also, you might wanna increase supersampling for both horizontal, vertical areas to avoid aliasing.
@Terranigma
What is the useful settings and code for Soothe and where can i type in my code?Same line of "b=a.Degrainmedian(mode=1)" or SeeSaw Scripts line

Pookie

9th March 2007, 09:44

Terranigma posted a link to the perfect thread for you....

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 10:09

Terranigma posted a link to the perfect thread for you....

Terranigma posted a link to the perfect thread for you....

I had a problem with GKnot&VDM
Avisynth open failure
Script Error:there is no function named "DegrainMedian"
(H:\Chapter_6\VTS_01_1.avs, line 92)
# PLUGINS
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TweakColor.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DenoiseSharpen.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DegrainMedian\degrainmedian.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\SeeSaw.avs")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\TweakColor.avs")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("H:\Chapter_6\VTS_01_1.d2v")

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(2,72,716,432)

# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(720,304)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()

# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmoothST(5,7)

# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmoothST(7,7)

# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmoothST(10,15)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(93,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)

a= last

b=a.DegrainMedian(Mode=1)

SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)

Thanks for link but i think its not useful with GKnot?Isn't it?

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 16:06

I had a problem with GKnot&VDM
Avisynth open failure
Script Error:there is no function named "DegrainMedian"
The reason why you're getting this error is because you need the degrainmedian plugin. It's an external plugin. You can download the latest version from Fizick (http://avisynth.org.ru/)'s page. (Though i did'nt mention degrainmedian at all. I said soothe and seesaw :p )

Thanks for link but i think its not useful with GKnot?Isn't it?
Check out the link to Jeremy Duncan's guide, download the package that says
1 Click Link to Complete Kit, includes comparison pictures. Updated XX XX, XXXX and read the included readme.

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 16:33

The reason why you're getting this error is because you need the degrainmedian plugin. It's an external plugin. You can download the latest version from Fizick (http://avisynth.org.ru/)'s page. (Though i did'nt mention degrainmedian at all. I said soothe and seesaw :p )

Check out the link to Jeremy Duncan's guide, download the package that says
1 Click Link to Complete Kit, includes comparison pictures. Updated XX XX, XXXX and read the included readme.
I had same version of that! Its interesting when i download and extract to plugings dir i couldn't see that error now but;
New error:
Script error:expected a, or
F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs line 90 column 82
(I changed the video dir and name)

Here is understandtable but that link (Jeremy's) is too complicated for me cause i m a beginner of avisynth...

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 16:46

I had same version of that! Its interesting when i download and extract to plugings dir i couldn't see that error now but;
New error:
Script error:expected a, or
F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs line 90 column 82
(I changed the video dir and name)

Here is understandtable that link (Jeremy's) is too comlicated for me cause i m a beginner of avisynth...
"F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs"

Try adding quotation marks at the beginning and end of your .avs path. Might need to add brackets at the beginning as well, (Depending on how you have your .avs file setup) so your complete path might look like this
("F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs")

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 17:33

"F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs"

Try adding quotation marks at the beginning and end of your .avs path. Might need to add brackets at the beginning as well, (Depending on how you have your .avs file setup) so your complete path might look like this
("F:Barbar\VTS_01_2.avs")

There is an error in MeGui but I am opened avs in VDM now!
But i am not sure the scripts(codes) are right or not?
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DegrainMedian\degrainmedian.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mt_masktools.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools.dll")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\SeeSaw.avs")

DGDecode_mpeg2source("F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v",info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true)
#Not doing anything because the source is progressive
crop( 0, 70, -2, -72)

LanczosResize(720,304) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

a=last
b=a.DegrainMedian(Mode=1)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)

If is ok what will i do now?
Set Xvid for 2 pass and...?
I started VDM for only one pass (as Jeremy says in his guide)
I saw Projected File size is so strange : around 450-500 MB with audio...
And Total Time(estimated): around 1:51:00

I am sure i will get crapped avi after them...
I aborted job in VDM and i got this picture!!!
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4968/51205195at7.th.png (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51205195at7.png)

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 18:04

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 18:21

Can you not pinpoint this error? Perhaps you're trying to use an invalid seesaw, or don't have all the necessary plugins to use it properly? It's crucial that you figure out what the problem is exactly before trying to encode.

This's how I'd go about using your script.
d2vpath = "F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v"
mpeg2source(d2vpath,ipp=true,info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true)
Spline36Resize(720,304,0,70,-2,-72)
a=last
b=a.DegrainMedian(Mode=1)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)
Removegrain(mode=1)

(I really doubt that your mpeg2source is progressive. Examine the .d2v file, or use a text editor gui and type info(), then display your video file to check to see if it's interlaced)
I had a problem with VDM when i use follow script;
# PLUGINS
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\TweakColor.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DenoiseSharpen.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools.dll)
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DegrainMedian\degrainmedian.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\SeeSaw.avs")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\TweakColor.avs")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("H:\Chapter_6\VTS_01_1.d2v")

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(2,72,716,432)

# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(720,304)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()

# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmoothST(5,7)

# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmoothST(7,7)

# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmoothST(10,15)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(93,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)

a= last

b=a.DegrainMedian(Mode=1)

SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)
But so strange i decided to work with MeGui and than I got problem there but i got codes from MeGui as like;
(I analysis my DVD source in MeGui and Megui says:Progresive)
oadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DegrainMedian\degrainmedian.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mt_masktools.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools.dll")
Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\SeeSaw.avs")

DGDecode_mpeg2source("F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v",info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true)
#Not doing anything because the source is progressive
crop( 0, 70, -2, -72)

LanczosResize(720,304) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise

a=last
b=a.DegrainMedian(Mode=1)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=3, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamplo=6, Szp=16)

And its work in VDM i saw video at last...
My .d2v file is;
DGIndexProjectFile15
6
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.VOB
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_2.VOB
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_3.VOB
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_4.VOB
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_5.VOB
F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_6.VOB

Stream_Type=1
MPEG_Type=2
iDCT_Algorithm=3
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance_Filter=0,0
Clipping=0,0,0,0
Aspect_Ratio=16:9
Picture_Size=720x576
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000 (25/1)
Location=0,0,5,4ecc8

900 1 0 2048 1 1 92 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2
900 1 0 397312 1 1 32 32 92 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2
900 1 0 894976 1 1 32 32 92 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2...
.........and goes like that....
900 1 4 479223808 1 9 32 32 92 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2
900 1 4 479748096 1 9 32 32 92 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2 b2 b2 a2
900 1 4 4

FINISHED 100.00% VIDEO

I think no chance to learn avisynth i will never learn... :(
Its so bad start for me...

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 18:34

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 18:47

Well megui tells me sometimes that my sources are progressive as well, when they're really interlaced.
I'll give you some of my scripts (And yes, they work properly)
Download This (http://www.savefile.com/files/541465) package and move all files in your avisynth plugins directory.
Remove this line from your script Import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Scripts\SeeSaw.avs")

By the way. I think the problem could lie within' your removegrain plugin. You can't, lets say, use removegrainsse3 on a machine that don't have sse3 capabilities. Only use the one that corresponds with your machine.

Try opening the script in megui now :p
Thanks so much for your helps Terranigma
When i use MeGui i never got any best results cause i am not good to use MeGui...
I am only knows enough AGK and GKnot...
I am sure it will not success but i'll try...

I downloaded that pack from your link but i couldn't see any scripts... There are only filters and plugings...
Which scripts will i use?

Terranigma

9th March 2007, 19:07

Thanks so much for your helps Terranigma
When i use MeGui i never got any best results cause i am not good to use MeGui...
I am only knows enough AGK and GKnot...
I am sure it will not success but i'll try...

I downloaded that pack from your link but i couldn't see any scripts... There are only filters and plugings...
Which scripts will i use?
actually, the seesaw and soothe files are scripts that loads automatically when placed in the plugin directory (depending on the avisynth version you use). That's why I asked you to remove the seesaw line from your script.

.avsi and .dll files are supposed to load automatically, so overwrite the ones you currently have with the one in the package and try previewing the script in megui. Again, make sure you choose the correct .dlls from the removegrain archive that's compatible with your computer.

TheRainmaker

9th March 2007, 19:21

actually, the seesaw and soothe files are scripts that loads automatically when placed in the plugin directory (depending on the avisynth version you use). That's why I asked you to remove the seesaw line from your script.

.avsi and .dll files are supposed to load automatically, so overwrite the ones you currently have with the one in the package and try previewing the script in megui. Again, make sure you choose the correct .dlls from the removegrain archive that's compatible with your computer.
Thanks so much Terranigma
I will try as soon as possible your mentioned things ... :)
I hope i can do correctly...
And I'll write results here...

TheRainmaker

11th March 2007, 17:23

I did at last to use SeeSaw with GKnot... :)
It looks better with SeeSaw...
without any filters(Simple GK)
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5688/50813526sv5.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=50813526sv5.png)
with SeeSaw +
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7766/a1we0.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a1we0.png)
without any filters(Simple GK)
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/167/95275947og5.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95275947og5.png)
with SeeSaw +
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6451/b1ct1.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1ct1.png)
But What about this;
without any filters
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9349/5agp2.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5agp2.png)
with SeeSaw +
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3725/36726552gk3.th.png (http://img103.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36726552gk3.png)

The Code was:
# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\degrainmedian.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mt_masktools.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Repair.dll)
import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\seesaw.avs")
import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Soothe.avs")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("F:\Video\VTS_01_1.d2v")

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(0,72,718,432)

# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(720,304)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()

# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmoothST(5,7)

# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmoothST(7,7)

# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmoothST(10,15)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)

a=last
b = a.DeGrainMedian( mode=1 )
SeeSaw( a, b, NRlimit=4, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=9, Spower=9, Szp=16, sootheT=80, bias=40 )
Removegrain(mode=1)
Everything is good or the setting are high?
Maybe some setting should be lover... Or more filters?
What is your suggestions?

Terranigma

11th March 2007, 17:46

I did at last to use SeeSaw with GKnot... :)
It looks better with SeeSaw...
without any filters(Simple GK)

The reason why you'd think SeeSaw looks better without any filters, is because the filters in your chain denoises your source, blurring it a bit. This's why you should adjust SeeSaw's sstr and slimit paramaters.

Please, check This (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=873467#post873467) thread and download Jeremy Duncan's Kit and use Soothe instead of degrainmedian, and use a good denoiser such as mvdegrain, fft3dfilter to denoise.
You should denoise first, sharpen, followed lastly by the use of RemoveGrain(mode=1) to save some extra bits.
So

1. Denoiser
2. Seesaw + Soothe
3. RemoveGrain

You can check out some examples from Jeremy's kit on how to denoise as well :)

TheRainmaker

11th March 2007, 18:21

The reason why you'd think SeeSaw looks better without any filters, is because the filters in your chain denoises your source, blurring it a bit. This's why you should adjust SeeSaw's sstr and slimit paramaters.

Please, check This (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=873467#post873467) thread and download Jeremy Duncan's Kit and use Soothe instead of degrainmedian, and use a good denoiser such as mvdegrain, fft3dfilter to denoise.
You should denoise first, sharpen, followed lastly by the use of RemoveGrain(mode=1) to save some extra bits.
So

1. Denoiser
2. Seesaw + Soothe
3. RemoveGrain

You can check out some examples from Jeremy's kit on how to denoise as well :)
1. Denoiser
2. Seesaw + Soothe
3. RemoveGrain
a=last
b = a.DeGrainMedian( mode=1 )----Denoiser( or not?)
SeeSaw( a, b, NRlimit=4, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=9, Spower=9, Szp=16, sootheT=80, bias=40 )----SeeSaw
Removegrain(mode=1)----Removegrain

So you mean lines are not correct for best results?
I think i used as you said...
I can adjust again SeeSaw's sstr and slimit paramaters no prob...
Jeremy's settings and filters are too different of mine...
Because i said there is no stabil scripts for SeeSaw in his thread...
He is using LSF scripts more there...
Check this one pls;
a = last
b = a.FluxSmoothT(10)
SeeSaw(a, b, NRlimit=10, NRlimit2=4, Sstr=1.4, Szp=1, Slimit=16, Spower=1, bias=0, sootheT=0, Sdamplo=8, SdampHi=0)
SPresso(limit=2, limitC=0, bias=69, biasC=0, RGmode=17, RGmodeC=0)
And he has got many of them cause i said his thread is too hard for beginners...
You know i am not professianol on avisynth and you saw the pictures...
I just wonder which denoiser could be better for the main source...

Thanks for all your helps... :)

Terranigma

11th March 2007, 18:34

TheRainmaker

11th March 2007, 18:47

Yes. Degrainmedian's a denoiser, it's just the ones I've suggested would be better suited for higher quality encodes. But if you wish to use degrainmedian, you can use a script like this:

degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=2.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

:)

Ohh! i see that thanks for the script...
So i will use that without;
a=last
b = a.

and end of the line of script?

PS: Its very hard to know which denoiser is suitable for main source...How can we know...?
Need to learn much more things i know...

Lets take a try again with your script...

Thanks so much... :)

Terranigma

11th March 2007, 18:48

So i will use that without;
a=last
b = a.

and end of the line of script?
Yes, just like I have it. Copy/Paste.

TheRainmaker

12th March 2007, 15:34

I used that script but nothing has changed in output movie!
It same as before one
I think SeeSaw script and others not worked!
Still blur...

I forgot something or not?
The code was i used;
# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\KernelDeInt.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\SimpleResize.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\degrainmedian.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MaskTools.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mt_masktools.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\RemoveGrain.dll")
#LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Repair.dll)
import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\seesaw.avs")
import("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Soothe.avs")

# SOURCE
mpeg2source("F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v")

# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)

# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)

# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)

# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()

# CROPPING
crop(0,72,718,432)

# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")

# RESIZING
LanczosResize(720,304)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
Undot()

# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmoothST(5,7)

# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmoothST(7,7)

# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmoothST(10,15)

# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)

# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)

# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)

degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=2.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

Because the pictures are some as with simple GKnot result...
Simple:
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3638/95275947og5gf0.th.png (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95275947og5gf0.png)

With:
degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=2.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7716/58955155mq1.th.png (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=58955155mq1.png)

With:
a=last
b = a.DeGrainMedian( mode=1 )
SeeSaw( a, b, NRlimit=4, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=9, Spower=9, Szp=16, sootheT=80, bias=40 )
Removegrain(mode=1)
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9771/b1ct1fz7.th.png (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1ct1fz7.png)

Terranigma

12th March 2007, 16:12

TheRainmaker

12th March 2007, 16:20

if you wanna increase the details, increase the sstr parameter like so
degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=3.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

I had you used an increased super sampling to prevent less aliasing as possible at the cost of it being less sharp. But you can always increase the sharpening strength. :)

Thanks Terranigma... :)
I will try one more with your parameters...I want more sharpening but i dont know that scripts gives me more sharpening?
I would like ask that; can i add Convolution3d filter too with them?

Terranigma

12th March 2007, 16:24

Should be able to. Add it before degrainmedian, and don't forget to adjust seesaw's sstr paramter if it blur :)

TheRainmaker

12th March 2007, 16:28

Should be able to. Add it before degrainmedian, and don't forget to adjust seesaw's sstr paramter if it blur :)

You mean like this:
Convolution3d("moviehq")
degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=3.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

Thanks... :)

Terranigma

12th March 2007, 16:29

Yes, preview the results in avsp or virtualdub :)

TheRainmaker

12th March 2007, 16:33

Yes, preview the results in avsp or virtualdub :)

Alright! It's opening in GKnot & AvSP...
Take a try...

Many Thanks.... :)

TheRainmaker

13th March 2007, 10:13

The results for my tests:
Without seesaw:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2521/25747482gw7.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25747482gw7.png)
With seesaw but different parameters:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8387/a1ti1.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a1ti1.png)
And the final:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/713/14446733ef2.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14446733ef2.png)

Without seesaw:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3529/90920735yr4.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=90920735yr4.png)
With seesaw but different parameters:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/628/b1kf7.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b1kf7.png)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(If you compare only two of them its look like almost dvd source out... but i think need a little bit more sharpness...)
And the final:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1115/49124340nd7.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=49124340nd7.png)
Original DVD Source for Compare:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/599/origjr1.th.png (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=origjr1.png)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Without seesaw:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5795/59939749bn5.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=59939749bn5.png)
With seesaw but different parameters:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1668/z1la8.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=z1la8.png)
And the final:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4510/32708199ap8.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32708199ap8.png)

PS: Pls compare eyes on that pictures...The Final results are looks more brightness and sharpness... :)

And sample(no audio) for final results:
http://rapidshare.tc/13550111

I think final results are looks better befores...
Do you think some more sstr + (exmpl:higher than 3.0) for increase the details or some more sets?

Special thanks to Terranigma... :)
I learned lots of things what i know about avisynth and seesaw from him...

TheRainmaker

13th March 2007, 15:22

Terranigma

13th March 2007, 15:54

If its able I would like to try with different sstr(4.0) parameters for more increase the details and add one more plugin as like ColorMatrix v2.1 with code as below;
ColorMatrix()
Convolution3d("moviehq")
degrainmedian(mode=3)
dull= last
sharp = dull.SeeSaw(ssx=1.25,NRlimit=0, NRlimit2=5, Sstr=4.0, Szp=1, Slimit=50, Sdamplo=6, Spower=0, bias=0, sootheT=0, SdampHi=52)
Soothe(sharp, dull, 5)
RemoveGrain(mode=1)

And i have a question about Undot() and Deen() ? What will be differences if i use them in above code before ColorMatrix?
What is your suggestions?

Deen is a noise remover, undot is a slight deringing , dotcrawl remover. Undot it the equivalent to removegrain(mode=1), except removegrain would be faster depending on what version u use, i.e., SSE2, SSE3. So undot isn't really necessary as I had you use removegrain already :)

Deen destroys too much detail. I'd avoid ever using that. Check out mvtools and it's internal denoisers or fft3d instead.

Colormatrix would be better if used like so.
If Interlaced:

d2vpath = "F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v"
mpeg2source(d2vpath,ipp=true,info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true)

If progressive:

d2vpath = "F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v"
mpeg2source(d2vpath,ipp=false,info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=false)

TheRainmaker

13th March 2007, 16:13

Terranigma

13th March 2007, 16:40

My source is progressive so i'll use;
d2vpath = "F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v"
mpeg2source(d2vpath,ipp=false,info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=false)

Do i have to use after mpeg2source line?
Can i use before of Convolution3d("moviehq")?
Because i saw in this forum someone used different as like;
ColorMatrix()

And you mean the should be as like;
mpeg2source(F:\BARBAR\VTS_01_1.d2v,ipp=false,info=3)(without quotation marks)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=false)

Did you check/compare that pictures and sample video?
If you did already what do you think about that?
Can i set sstr paramaters as like 3.5 or 4.0, is it able?

PS:How can i know definetly my DVD source is Progressive or Interlaced?

a. Yes, I checked and compared. The Final output looks better :)
b. Yes, you can set the sstr parameters to 3.5, 4.0. If you want to truly experience the crystal clarity principle, raise the slimit, or make it limitless :p
c. There's a couple of ways you can determine if your source is progressive or interlaced:
1. In dgmpgdec (dgindex), choose "preview" to check.
2. Use a gui text editor such as "AvsP', and add info() as a function, then preview the clip with "F5" to check.

Lastly. No, the way I showed you above is a simpler, more proficient way to use mpeg2source :)

I don't know who'd use colormatrix like that. Definately not me. You should use it like I've mentioned above. Let dgindex (info=3) determine the colorimetry property. :)