New release of Media Player 6.4

[gabest]

Rewritten from scratch, enjoy: http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/mplayerc.rar

Don't forget to report bugs, crashings, etc. :)

p.s.
Because it is only a test version, there is a 5min time limit, sorry :p

[flloyd]

This looks pretty cool. Just the player I am looking for.

When I open a file though it freezes before it starts. I press stop and then start and it plays fine.

Oh and when do you plan on releasing a version that is not limited?

[ARDA]

I've just made a short test with an ogm and all was right. At first I could not manage correctly the selection of languages and subtitles but finally I've got it. The only thing I can mention that it crash if I try to close the player without stopping it before. Once more thanks for all your tools. Waiting for a new release.
Arda

[gabest]

Thanks for testing it, I'm trying to fix those misterious problems. It seems to behave differently on every computer :)

Time limit will be there until there are serious problems with it. This should prevent ppl spreading it too far.

[Gazza]

Originally posted by gabest
Rewritten from scratch, enjoy: http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/mplayerc.rar

Don't forget to report bugs, crashings, etc. :)

p.s.
Because it is only a test version, there is a 5min time limit, sorry :p

Gabest,
I tried to get a copy to test but the link above didn't work. Any other way I can try a copy?

Gazza

[gabest]

Hehe, I've just removed it a few hours ago, and the release version hasn't been copied onto the download server yet.

Until then try http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/mplayerc6401.rar

[Gazza]

Bad timing on my part. Anyway I will download and give it a test.

Gazza

[ARDA]

I've tested again the new release with the same ogg (ogm);no
crashes when I close it without stopping.

Sources: Do you know any open-source player for windows?
Well, I don’t... May be later.

Of course you needn't at all release your source code.You
have already shared your work with your filters,but it would
be so funny to see....I'd better stop here.Thanks again for
your great work.

Arda

[gabest]

There is one simple reason for keeping the sources to myself. I don't want to be the only one who finds out something and sees his ideas appearing a little later in the other closed source players :p

[Dark-Cracker]

hi,

very nice work with your tool.i have found a little problem in fact i have create a .smil file with an interactive menu, but when i click on the video with the mouse , this pause the movie, could u add a little option that will disable the possibility (perhaps only if u opent a .smil file) to pause the movie by clicking on the screen. this will be great.

PS: i have tested the win2k and the winMe version and the 2 .exe file start on winXP why two version (compatibility problem)?

Sorry for my poor english.

bye.

[Blight]

gabest:
I actually released some of the Zoom Player code and help out on programming forums. I even gave a few basic code stuff to competetive players in the spirit of sharing.

[gabest]

Dark-Cracker:
- Could you send me a sample smil file? I have no idea about them.
- The 2kxp exe won't run under win9x, you can call it the "native" NT version. It would be a lot easier to only write the code for NT :)

Blight: I didn't want to hurt you or anybody else, I was just explaining what I feel.

[gabest]

I found an smi file which has clickable items. For the first glance it seems impossible to allow both interaction and pause/play...

[Shernand]

Very nice player Gabest, congrats ;)

BTW, it would be great if you add this two really neat features

1) Option to use Default WaveOut Device instead of Default Directsound Device (to improve quality in 48000 hz clips with my old sound blaster awe 64 isa).

2) Option to use Cyberlink AC3 Decoder ;)

Thanks again and best of luck ;)

-- Shernand

[gabest]

Originally posted by Shernand
Very nice player Gabest, congrats ;)

BTW, it would be great if you add this two really neat features

1) Option to use Default WaveOut Device instead of Default Directsound Device (to improve quality in 48000 hz clips with my old sound blaster awe 64 isa).Ok2) Option to use Cyberlink AC3 Decoder ;)If you unregister all other ac3 decoder with higher priority, then the cyberlink filter will be used.

Btw, is there a way to enable 4/6 channel playback with that filter? Or is there some other reason using it over iviaudio? I'm just curious.

[heldchen]

congratulations gabest, best player i've found so far. been using windows media player 6.4 for "years" now but dumped it in favor for MPc!

one feature i still miss tho (but haven't seen it in any other player either i must say): some movies have a low audio volume which makes watching them especially on notebook systems very hard. some kind of software audio volume amplifier would be awesome.

keep on the good work - vobsub & mpc rule!

[Yusaku]

Heldchen: http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Audio/dedynamic02.zip

It should work with any player you like, including (my favorite) mpc :)

[heldchen]

already tried that DeDynamic v.02 filter. no joy at all, it won't get loaded, neither in MP6.4 nor in MPC6.4.01... and yes, i've correctly registered the filter through regsvr32. its a pitty as according to other posts in the forum it would do exactly what i need: amplifying the audio :/


@gabest:
small bug:
"always on top" does not work correctly. if its checked and you close mpc, then open it again by playing a movie, the option "Always on Top" is checked but its not staying on top. you first have to uncheck and check it again, then it works...

[gabest]

I checked that filter and it has a "do not load normally" :) priority, so it won't get loaded until the player adds it to the graph.

"Always on top" bug fixed.

[heldchen]

can you make an option to "load" one (or more?) filters that don't autoload in mpc? would be kinda cool i guess, for other filters as well...

[gabest]

I was thinking much about how to do it the best way. Do you have any suggestion for a clean system?

[Yusaku]

Under Options>Formats tab, add another button "Non-default filters" (or something like that, cannot think of short descriptive label...), that will open a list of filters added to the graph extra (default on emty) with a possibility to add DShow filters to the list in a similar way as in GraphEdit.

This way, you'll get features similar to zoom player (but way easier to configure), but it will fail in cases when graph auto-build won't include these extra filters on the right places (i.e. Dump filter) - it is not too necessary.

But if you'd like to program a lot, you could add two extra buttons (which flters should connect to this filter on imput pins and which on output ones); thatway you'd be able to describe even whole graph tree...

[gabest]

Hehe, I think I need to rewrite and integrate graphedit into the player to make everybody happy :)

[Yusaku]

well, not for me anyway... I was just suggesting a way how to include it in MPC interface :)

But I think that it will be for advanced users anyway, so I guess you could go for GUID list somewhere in registry or config file... it will do the same work...

[Yusaku]

Another feature request: when there is a video file and a few audio tracks, could you add selection of them?

ex.:
Movie.avi
Movie.English.ssa
Movie.English.mp3
Movie.Czech.ssa
Movie.Czech.mp3

would make menu for selecting between three tracks and two subtitles.

It would probably need to rebuild the graph tree, but that is not too big of a problem (you don't switch languages that often during playback...) => after selecting the language, load the two files (already working) and seek to current timestamp.

[Yusaku]

also, how about the aspect ratio correction for movie playback on 16:9 TVs? The numeric keypad just is not working on this notebook in MPC and it is extremely boring to do it with mouse in menu, not to mention that you never get the correct aspect ratio this way.

[gabest]

Yusaku: How was that 16:9 zooming exactly? On this picture the red or the blue area?http://vobsub.edensrising.com/untitled.GIF

[Yusaku]

enlarge the red area (16:9) (movie area) to the grey (whole 4:3) (TV Out is almost always 4:3 :( ) => leave X axis as it is and scale Y by 133.33%

[gabest]

Yea, I though so, just wasn't sure about it since the pan&scan presets in powerdvd zoom on the blue area.

[Yusaku]

Yes, I know - well, that's usable for viewing 16:9 movie fullscreen without "unnecessary" borders - some people like it (on 4:3 monitors) (I know about 3 such people), while what I need is to show movie fullscreen on 16:9TV, because the drivers for most TV OUTs are stupid and don't support 16:9 resolution (Matrox is a nice exception, but AFAIK no other manufacturer noticed the existence of 16:9 TVs so far).
I guess that adding both presets won't hurt - from what I've seen around quite a few ppl actually use that zoom in PDVD :)

[Yusaku]

one more feature request ^_^
Ctrl+<> is great toy, but if you could revive Alt+<> from WMP, it'd be great. I miss some way how to seek through video using keyboard (not that WMP had the seeking enabled - it was greyed out all the time...); and it disables any way how to use remote control with WMP/MPC (scripting mouse to that extent is impossible in bRemote; and seeking bar is turned off in fullscreen anyway)

The greatest would be if you could seek on keyframes; so that it'd respond immediately - but just "go 10 seconds backwards/forwards" on each Alt+<> press is enough...

Speaking of the mouse - quite often it doesn't hide in fullscreen mode when "show controls in fullscreen" is turned off. With it on it hides everytime. Any suggestions? :) I hate controls on fullscreen!

[gabest]

Seeking frames is very problematic in dshow. The only reliable thing is stepping forward n frames, but it isn't possible to do it backwards at all. Also, you can forget about seeking to keyframes for a while. I couldn't find any reference in the help or using google about determining where the keyframes are.

(What was the Ctrl+<> or Alt+<> what you were talking about? I have no idea what they did or should have done in wmp64 :P)

I've rarely used it with the controls turned off in fs, but I will look into the problem now :)

Meanwhile you (or anyone) could test http://vobsub.edensrising.com/get2.php/mplayerc.rar for me. In renderless mode there is an integrated subresync implemented as a toolbar.

[Yusaku]

Hmmm... as I thought - DShow is too much time oriented for that :(

Anyway, could you make the Alt+arrows seek 10 secs backward/forward relative to current position?

Ad subresync: I'll try to look at it, but unfortunately the drivers for DD are SOOO crappy on this notebook that I cannot promise anything...

[gabest]

Yea..., seeking x sec is possible. I just need to find some space somewhere in the options to add settings for it.

[Yusaku]

You could go for the classic WMP style, add a menu "go" and put it there... together with the "play at" and maybe some future seeking commands... To maintain similarity to WMP as close as possible :)

[Yusaku]

well, subresync SEEMS to be working, but with 2fps it is hard to tell... Apparently these drivers suck just a bit too much ^_^.

And regarding pan&scan: thanks a lot for the 16:9 option :)
but
1) what is the difference between "reset" and "Stretch to 4:3"?
2) what are the other two for? 1.85:1 might be useful to zoom a movie on 16:9 TV at the cost of slightly messed proportions, but 2.35:1 is damaging the widescreen movies too much.

What I was suggesting were three options:
Scale to 16:9 TV (X scale 100%, Y scale 133%) (working now)
Zoom widescreen (X scale 139%, Y scale 139%)
Zoom ultra-widescreen (X scale 177%, Y scale 177%)

the first one is for buggy drivers on TV Out, the other two are taken directly from PDvD4's Pan&Scan menu (to show the center of widescreen, resp ultra-widescreen fullscreen on 4:3 screen)

[gabest]

Originally posted by Yusaku
1) what is the difference between "reset" and "Stretch to 4:3"?LOL, nothing. But it looked so logical to add it on the list... I like order :)2) what are the other two for? 1.85:1 might be useful to zoom a movie on 16:9 TV at the cost of slightly messed proportions, but 2.35:1 is damaging the widescreen movies too much.Dunno, maybe some ppl has a display with such a ratio.What I was suggesting were three options:
Scale to 16:9 TV (X scale 100%, Y scale 133%) (working now)
Zoom widescreen (X scale 139%, Y scale 139%)
Zoom ultra-widescreen (X scale 177%, Y scale 177%)Yea, the "powerdvd-like" options could also be usefull. Good thing it is never late to update the UI :)

[Yusaku]

Originally posted by gabest
LOL, nothing. But it looked so logical to add it on the list... I like order :)
In that case - could you move the reset to the zoom group where it belongs to? (above the new stretch group) ^___^

Originally posted by gabest
Dunno, maybe some ppl has a display with such a ratio.
Dunno, doubt it - I've seen just 4:3 and 16:9 TVs; and all computer displays have luckily 1:1 pixel size (I know, except 1280x1024, but even there the difference is not too big...), so they do not need tweaking at application level. I think that the only usability of this non-standard stretch is really for 16:9 TVs, but it works like a charm on them :)

Damn, if all the TVs had DVI connector, there wouldn't be any problems :o

[Yusaku]

BTW: Ad keyframes: Yeah, I know... The only think that's seeking to keyframes now is Tobias' OGM filter - so unless you're willing to rewrite AVI splitter :devil: :sly:

[ookzDVD]

@gabest,

thank you for your wmp ;)
btw, the picture is look jerk if I maximize to fullscreen ;(
not as smooth as the original wmp, or maybe I have to use the
bicubis DS filter 'cause you not implement it yet ?

Thank you.

[Yusaku]

You need a newer GPU for that... but if you turn off VMR renderer, it should revert to normal, right?

Doing bilinear filtering (bicubic is out of question) by software instead of GPU would be a huge processor hug. If your card doesn't support bilinear filtering on textures, do not use D3D mode.

[gabest]

Yes, probably knowing the type of the videocard would bring us closer to the answer :)

[pandv]

I have a little sugestions about the behaviour of the Media Player and fullscreen mode (not important at all).

- When in fullscreen mode press Esc key, go out of fullscreen mode but stop the video also (wm 6.4 does it). Because if anybody goes to windowed mode is to see or do another thing.

- When not in fullscreen mode, Esc closes the player (it's a option in wm 6.4, if I remember correctly). Boss key. Alt-F4 is more dificult to press.

- When the film or clip finishes (if there are not loop programmed) go out of fullscreen mode (wm 6.4 also does it).

Only suggested because when I migrated from 6.4 to 7.0 (yes, nobody is perfect) I missed this functions. Now, I am using your player. Thanks.

pandv.

[Yusaku]

Originally posted by pandv
- When in fullscreen mode press Esc key, go out of fullscreen mode but stop the video also (wm 6.4 does it). Because if anybody goes to windowed mode is to see or do another thing.
Yeah, that'd be nice - WMP did that...Originally posted by pandv
- When not in fullscreen mode, Esc closes the player (it's a option in wm 6.4, if I remember correctly). Boss key. Alt-F4 is more dificult to press.
Noooooooo!!!!! WMP did NOT do this and it'd be too easy to exit the player without wanting to.Originally posted by pandv
- When the film or clip finishes (if there are not loop programmed) go out of fullscreen mode (wm 6.4 also does it).
yeah, that was feature of early WMPs (I remember it from my old W95 station) that I didn't like too much, but - it doesn't matter. I'd more like to see it the way it is now, but...

[wertherman]

Your player seems to stop responding whenever you use it to play realmedia clips in quick succession (ie within a couple of seconds of each other).

Other than that, the player is great, the first player I've used thats been good enough to replace good old windows media player 6.4.......

Additional bug: I've found one just one mp3 file it plays and about 10 it doesn't so far - crashes with three memory access errors (I can send you copies of some of the mp3's I've found that it crashes on if required)

[gabest]

I've sent you my ftp in a pm.

About the rm files randomly locking up the player I can't do much. After I tell the realplayer dlls to begin the playback 1 out of 10 times the call never returns and the whole thing just freezes.

[wertherman]

Ok.. I'm uploading one of the files that wouldn't play now (Filename = "(Hed) Planet Earth - Bartender.mp3") though I think its something messed up with my system as I just tried the same file in wmp6 and it didn't play (I've been trying to reinstall win2k for about a month now but murphy's law keeps holding me back (at the moment I've got a nice "Inaccessible boot device" blue screen)).

As for the realmedia issue, if that's the case your only real way of dealing with it would be to start a seperate thread for calling the realmedia dll's and then after a certain time out period, give up and kill the thread (and then deal with the consequences)..... Which could really mess up all your other code so don't make it top priority...........

[gabest]

I've just loaded the mp3 a few times but no probelms here. Don't you have some non-default mp3 decoders installed?

[Flay]

Light Alloy - player which can seek to key frames. :-)
How ? - just pasre AVI by itself and seek to calculated position.
It works !

[wertherman]

Nope. I've got the fraunhofer transform filter for directshow(tm) version 1.5 (build 50) installed and nothing else (unless I've got something decode only, but as it uses the fraunhofer codec for the files it can play it really shouldn't matter....) I'll see if I can work out what's wrong but I can't really think of much that I can try (other than possibly installing lame directshow filter for decoding mp3s)...........