Zoran chip-set Information - Std Def

SeeMoreDigital · 12th February 2005, 16:33

The idea behind this thread is to compile a list of all the stand-alone players known to use Zoran Vaddis chip-sets.

As you can see there's hardly any information here at all. But with your help... hopefully things will improve...

Please note:
The information listed below identifies the known "maximum" capabilities of the chip-set and has been compiled from various sources. It therefore does not necessarily mean that your player will be able to support all of them.

Chip-set Manufacturers Web Site
http://www.zoran.com/home

Here is what is known so far: -

Code:

ZORAN VADDIS 776 CHIP-SET

What it looks like




Chip-set Manufacturers Specification (Taken from their info)




Basic (Non MPEG-2/DVD) Player Functionality
Supports: - 
Video Decs: MPEG-4 with B-VOP (with/without packed bit-stream) /
Qpel / 1 and *3 warp-point GMC
Audio Decs: MP3 / MPA (Layers 1, 2 and 3), AC3 (Dolby® Digital), WAV / AAC-LC / WMA
Containers: .AVI & .MP4 for video (.MP3, .WAV, .AC3, .WMA & .AAC for audio)

Does not support: -
Various: PAR or DAR signalling, encoded within the Mpeg4 bit-stream,
in either .AVI or .MP4 containers

Please Note
* 3 Warp-point GMC is not 100% fully implemented. 
Seems to work better with NeroDigital GMC implementation rather than XviD.


Players/Model Numbers using this Chip-Set
Look here

Code:

ZORAN VADDIS 778 CHIP-SET

What it looks like
TBA


Chip-set Manufacturers Specification (Taken from their info)
TBA


Basic (Non MPEG-2/DVD) Player Functionality
Supports: - 
Video Decs: MPEG-4 with B-VOP (with/without packed bit-stream) / Qpel / 1 and *3 warp-point GMC
Audio Decs: MP3 / MPA (Layers 1, 2 and 3), AC3 (Dolby® Digital), WAV / AAC-LC / WMA
Containers: .AVI & .MP4 for video (.MP3, .WAV, .AC3, .WMA & .AAC for audio)

Does not support: -
TBA


Players/Model Numbers using this Chip-Set
TBA

Code:

ZORAN VADDIS 888 CHIP-SET

What it looks like



Chip-set Manufacturers Specification (Taken from their info)



Basic (Non MPEG-2/DVD) Player Functionality
Supports: - 
Video Decs: MPEG-4 with B-VOP (with/without packed bit-stream) / Qpel / 1 and *3 warp-point GMC
Audio Decs: MP3 / MPA (Layers 1, 2 and 3), AC3 (Dolby® Digital), WAV / AAC-LC / WMA
Containers: .AVI & .MP4 for video (.MP3, .WAV, .AC3, .WMA & .AAC for audio)

Does not support: -
TBA

Please Note
*3 Warp-point GMC support is much improved.
Early reports suggest playback of XviD's 3-warp-point GMC implementation actually works better than NeroDigital's


Players/Model Numbers using this Chip-Set
TBA

Cheers

jok11n · 19th February 2005, 08:04

Quite surprised to see the Rowa mentioned on here, we are working on a firmware update that will sort out a few niggles that the player has at the moment, I have another player based on the same chipset which is working much better so I think the potential is there with this chipset.

SeeMoreDigital · 19th February 2005, 10:37

Thanks very much for the reply jok11n,

If you provide me with some Technical Support and Player Spec Information (for both players), I will add it to this thread.

Many thanks

pirates · 19th February 2005, 10:40

@SeeMoreDigital

maybe you will find this interesting: Zoran Vaddis 7 Product Brief

also, i've got a better picture of the chip for you:

and finally, a player built around this chipset: Orava 504 (AFAIK available only in Slovakia, but I might be wrong)

Orava 504 Product Info and Specifications (both in slovak)

SeeMoreDigital · 19th February 2005, 12:55

Hi pirates,

Thanks very much for the information update... very useful.

After reading the PDF file about the chip-set, one item was clearly missing from specification...

..."Where's... the AAC audio"!

Cheers

pirates · 19th February 2005, 15:04

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
[B]After reading the PDF file about the chip-set, one item was clearly missing from specification...

..."Where's... the AAC audio"!

you have to keep in mind, that the Zoran Vaddis 7 is a name for a whole range of chipsets.

for example, the chip on the picture I've given you, is a Vaddis 776 (ZR36776HQCG), and the chip described in that product brief is the Vaddis 778 (assuming that ZR36778HQC follows the same naming convention). notice both the DD and the DTS logo on the chip, an embedded DTS decoder might be one of the differences, too.

not to forget about the manufacturer's right to change anything without notice. so, if the AAC is implemented in the chip, it might be a matter of a different chip version, or the product brief has not been updated yet.

SeeMoreDigital · 19th February 2005, 15:21

I wonder if it's possible to obtain more detailed specifications per chip-set model number?

Cheers

pirates · 19th February 2005, 15:33

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I wonder if it's possible to obtain more detailed specifications per chip-set model number?

my guess is, that we can be lucky to have at least this one, even though I never quite understood, why are chipset specs (Zoran, MediaTek, ESS, etc.) confidential. don't get me wrong, I can understand it while the product is being designed. I just don't get, why shouldn't the potential customers have the right to know what exactly are they buying when those chipset are already on the market.

alin.selicean · 15th March 2005, 13:57

Hi all

Searched the forum for Tevion, but didn't found an answer to my questions. Which is: I bought in Jan 2005 a Tevion DR2004 (Digital Receiver). It seems to be manufactured by Siemssen, although they deny it. The player was bought in Aldi Sud, in Germany by a friend of mine.

It works just fine, with one exception: don't know how to display DivX subs. I tried various standards: srt, sub, txt. Nothing worked.

I am willing to try the link provided by SMD in his post from 12th Febr, but I'm not sure if this also applies to my player. I couldn't see what chipset is it using, as it has a cooler stuck on it. I saw an ESS chip, a small one, but I presume that's for sound sys.

I also tried to find out what firmware my player is using, but dunno how.

Can someone help me out with these ?

Thanks, folks.

Cheers,
Alin

SeeMoreDigital · 15th March 2005, 16:06

Hi Alin... welcome to the forum.

According to some information posted on other web sites, the Tevion DR2004 does use the Zoran chip-set... Shame you can't see which version it is though.

I must admit I'm not all that up-to-speed with subtitling implementations, so I wonder whether some of our Siemssen SCO5000ND player owners can help you out.

You might also want to try sending some of them a Private Message (PM)....

Cheers

alin.selicean · 16th March 2005, 08:42

Hey SMD

Thank you for tips.

I will try to contact the guys from the Siemssen forum.

Cheers,
Alin

Jefferson Ryan · 16th March 2005, 10:30

Hi, SMD

I have another player for your list.

The Samsung DVD-P240K is based on the Zoran Vaddis 778 and is available only in Latin America

Oficial sites:
Spanish - has a link to the Spanish manual:
http://www.samsung.com/latin/product.../dvd_p240k.asp

Brazilian Portuguese:
http://www.samsung.com/br/products/d.../dvd_p240k.asp

As of today, there is no English or Portuguese user manual for this player

And here:
http://ryan.com.br/prod_p240k.htm

You can find some photos from the screen, displaying subtitles, and inside the unit, showing the Zoran chipset. I will add some bigger internal images later this week

Jefferson Ryan
http://ryan.com.br

galex · 27th March 2005, 14:02

I think that this Samsung player (Home Cinema) is with Zoran Chipset, but I don/t know the version (Vaddis 776 or 778). How can I get the version of the chipset?

Also, my player doesn't support romanian characters. Is there any clue about supporting romanian characters? (East Europe characters)?

SeeMoreDigital · 27th March 2005, 14:36

Quote:

Originally posted by galex
How can I get the version of the chipset?

Hi galex, welcome to the forum.

The only "sure-fire" way I know of, is to open up the player and look at the chip-set

And hopefully your "Romanian character" recognition problem will be rectified soon... Have you informed Samsung about it?

If I remember correctly, Philips have only recently included this implement ion for their ESS chip-set based players!

Cheers

galex · 21st May 2005, 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Hi galex, welcome to the forum.

The only "sure-fire" way I know of, is to open up the player and look at the chip-set

And hopefully your "Romanian character" recognition problem will be rectified soon... Have you informed Samsung about it?

If I remember correctly, Philips have only recently included this implement ion for their ESS chip-set based players!

Cheers

Hello again.

I informed in several times Samsung about the problem with displaying "romanian characters" with Divx Subtitles, but with no effect. What a shame for Samsung!!!

telemachus · 8th June 2005, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by alin.selicean

Hi all

It works just fine, with one exception: don't know how to display DivX subs. I tried various standards: srt, sub, txt. Nothing worked.

Alin

hello,
i have a siemssen which uses the same chip,
are you making 100% sure the filename of the sub and avi are identical except for the file extention, of course?

the siemssen, and maybe the zoran chip has some limitations...
often after FF or FRW it goes horribly out of sync.
also when dialogue is fast, entire subtitle lines disappear while others are just on for a flash... very irritating.
also you cannot see an image while playing mp3's which you can do with yamadas
also FF and FRW is very jerky, it leaps 30 or more seconds at a time rather than shuttle properly through the material.
they have ignored my repeated requests for a firmware upgrade., there has been nothing since early Feb.
mark

freelock7 · 24th June 2005, 13:40

Here a good link for all zoran 7 chipset based dvd players!
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Submit2=Search

SeeMoreDigital · 24th June 2005, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by freelock7

Here a good link for all zoran 7 chipset based dvd players!
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Submit2=Search

And here's another: -

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...043#post646043

Cheers

ricardo.santos · 24th June 2005, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by alin.selicean

Hi all

It works just fine, with one exception: don't know how to display DivX subs. I tried various standards: srt, sub, txt. Nothing worked.

Alin

have you tried the xsub format?
it was developed by divx and it plays on every divx certified player

it works wonders for me better than the results with divxconverter

Doom9 · 24th June 2005, 16:13

Every player out there will at least need a firmware update to play xsub. Whether or not those will be available depends on your player manufacturer..

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pirates Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 42	Zoran Vaddis 7 @SeeMoreDigital maybe you will find this interesting: Zoran Vaddis 7 Product Brief also, i've got a better picture of the chip for you: and finally, a player built around this chipset: Orava 504 (AFAIK available only in Slovakia, but I might be wrong) Orava 504 Product Info and Specifications (both in slovak) Last edited by pirates; 19th February 2005 at 15:09.

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,417	Hi pirates, Thanks very much for the information update... very useful. After reading the PDF file about the chip-set, one item was clearly missing from specification... ..."Where's... the AAC audio"! Cheers __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,417	I wonder if it's possible to obtain more detailed specifications per chip-set model number? Cheers __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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alin.selicean Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Tevion DR2004 Hi all Searched the forum for Tevion, but didn't found an answer to my questions. Which is: I bought in Jan 2005 a Tevion DR2004 (Digital Receiver). It seems to be manufactured by Siemssen, although they deny it. The player was bought in Aldi Sud, in Germany by a friend of mine. It works just fine, with one exception: don't know how to display DivX subs. I tried various standards: srt, sub, txt. Nothing worked. I am willing to try the link provided by SMD in his post from 12th Febr, but I'm not sure if this also applies to my player. I couldn't see what chipset is it using, as it has a cooler stuck on it. I saw an ESS chip, a small one, but I presume that's for sound sys. I also tried to find out what firmware my player is using, but dunno how. Can someone help me out with these ? Thanks, folks. Cheers, Alin

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jok11n Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1	Quite surprised to see the Rowa mentioned on here, we are working on a firmware update that will sort out a few niggles that the player has at the moment, I have another player based on the same chipset which is working much better so I think the potential is there with this chipset.

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SeeMoreDigital Life's clearer in 4K UHD Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 12,417	Hi Alin... welcome to the forum. According to some information posted on other web sites, the Tevion DR2004 does use the Zoran chip-set... Shame you can't see which version it is though. I must admit I'm not all that up-to-speed with subtitling implementations, so I wonder whether some of our Siemssen SCO5000ND player owners can help you out. You might also want to try sending some of them a Private Message (PM).... Cheers __________________ \| I've been testing hardware media playback devices and software A/V encoders and decoders since 2001 \| My Network Layout & A/V Gear \|

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alin.selicean Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5	Hey SMD Thank you for tips. I will try to contact the guys from the Siemssen forum. Cheers, Alin

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Jefferson Ryan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brasil Posts: 12	Hi, SMD I have another player for your list. The Samsung DVD-P240K is based on the Zoran Vaddis 778 and is available only in Latin America Oficial sites: Spanish - has a link to the Spanish manual: http://www.samsung.com/latin/product.../dvd_p240k.asp Brazilian Portuguese: http://www.samsung.com/br/products/d.../dvd_p240k.asp As of today, there is no English or Portuguese user manual for this player And here: http://ryan.com.br/prod_p240k.htm You can find some photos from the screen, displaying subtitles, and inside the unit, showing the Zoran chipset. I will add some bigger internal images later this week Jefferson Ryan http://ryan.com.br Last edited by Jefferson Ryan; 16th March 2005 at 10:38.

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galex Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2	Samsung HT DS-400 I think that this Samsung player (Home Cinema) is with Zoran Chipset, but I don/t know the version (Vaddis 776 or 778). How can I get the version of the chipset? Also, my player doesn't support romanian characters. Is there any clue about supporting romanian characters? (East Europe characters)?

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freelock7 High beam Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 290	Here a good link for all zoran 7 chipset based dvd players! http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....Submit2=Search

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,583	Every player out there will at least need a firmware update to play xsub. Whether or not those will be available depends on your player manufacturer.. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org