Xine for windows

MetalheadGautham · 23rd May 2007, 08:59

I have heard a lot about the famous Xine, the ultimate DVD player for linux. I saw in the Xine's website instructions for compiling it for Windows. So it must mean that Xine for windows must exist on the net. I want to know where I can find it, or if it has to be still developed. please don't try to redirect me to MPlayer or VLC, because I already have them and I just want to complete the trio of the 3 top media players in my PC. Another reason is that I am trying to switch over to linux, so I need to be familiar with Xine. can anybody here help me?

in advance.

ak · 27th May 2007, 16:33

The thing is, xine is a library, many audio/video players use it for playback, none of them runs under windows.
There's an example xine-win32 frontend, you can get a compile here, fi: http://xine.czechian.net/index.php?section=win32
Dunno how exactly feature-rich this frontend is, it probably won't give you much of idea, but there you go.

MetalheadGautham · 11th June 2007, 21:00

for the reply. I hope this post becomes as historic as the old request for a GUIed MPlayer for windows... if xine can be ported to windows to look just as it does in linux, it would be awssome...

LoRd_MuldeR · 11th June 2007, 21:23

Is there anything that Xine can do better than MPlayer?

MetalheadGautham · 12th June 2007, 00:18

better GUI. DVD menus. xine is in a more advanced stage of developement than MPlayer or VLC(I am a user of both)...

and I think the best version of MPlayer is propably the one that comes with MediaCoder..... the offitial download version was a bit buggy...

VLC is quite feature rich, with effects and all that, but a bit shakey sometimes with FLV videos and it can't handle some formats like Real Video. It has some bugs doe to which it skips first 2 seconds of some audio. MPlayer is what I use for them. MPUI for Real Video, mplayer.exe for audio formats and long movies(vcd), and VLC for remaining video formats and DVD.

LoRd_MuldeR · 12th June 2007, 19:18

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Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

better GUI. DVD menus.

Well, MPlayer is a CLI application by it's nature. So the GUI totally depends on what front-end you use.
Furthermore it explains the lack of DVD menu support.

My question was more related to supported audio/video/conatiner formats, available post-processing features and so on...

smok3 · 12th June 2007, 20:27

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Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

Furthermore it explains the lack of DVD menu support.

well not really, lynx is a cli application as well.

MetalheadGautham · 13th June 2007, 05:13

well they both support similar formats, but MPlayer is 1.0 and Xine is 1.17, long concidered stable.

MetalheadGautham · 13th June 2007, 05:21

I want to know if there is some software like MPUI for xine which can enable me to use xine in windows.

and most importantly, do Xine or MPlayer have all the extra stuff found in VLC like colour inversion, blurring, gamma, distortion, 10 band equiliser, filters, de-interlacing, etc?

LoRd_MuldeR · 13th June 2007, 07:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalheadGautham

and most importantly, do Xine or MPlayer have all the extra stuff found in VLC like colour inversion, blurring, gamma, distortion, 10 band equiliser, filters, de-interlacing, etc?

At least MPlayer does have A LOT of filters. In fact MPlayer has MUCH more filters than VLC available! Just see the "Video Filters" section of the mplayer docs. If you don't want to configure the filters by hand (via command-line), then I recommend you give the "SMPlayer" front-end a try (instead of MPUI) as it has more filters implemented in the GUI...

BTW: Version numbers don't say anything. MPlayer works very stable for me. It's an every-day-use tool for me since ages...

Gusar · 13th June 2007, 11:11

The main difference between xine and mplayer is that xine is a library while mplayer is a binary.
Then there's the few things xine has and mplayer doesn't, like dvd menu support and dscaler deinterlacers (tomsmocomp, greedy low-motion, greedy high-motion, greedy2frame).

@MetalheadGautham:
Except for the old, buggy and incomplete win32 gui that ak posted a link to (I tested it, it's alpha quality at best and looks horrible, it's basically a proof of concept), there are no xine frontends for windows. Unless you really want dvd menus, you can just as well use mplayer with or without frontend, you won't be missing anything.

And like LoRd_MuldeR said, version numbers don't mean anything. You should know that mplayer release management is more or less non-existent, their policy is to always use the latest svn version.

LoRd_MuldeR · 13th June 2007, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Gusar

The main difference between xine and mplayer is that xine is a library while mplayer is a binary.

That's not 100% true. What about "libmplayer" as used by ffdshow?

MetalheadGautham · 13th June 2007, 17:37

well, my need is as follows:

1. support for infinite formats

2. no green bars in flv videos

3. opensource(if none, then freeware, but I HATE KMPLAYER)

4. tonnes of video filters

5. a 10 band equiliser with preset values for lots of stuff, especially for METAL.(I am a fan of SOAD, Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Zep, Megadeth, Sabbath, Maiden, rush, etc

)

6. NO green bars in flv videos

7. the playlist, the EQ, the controls, the video and the visualizations in the same window, no multiple windows.

8. a built in and effitient transcoader and ripper(x264 and nero aac a must if not nero then faad)

9. cool looking icons for various filetypes

10. a good sound quality.

11. faster playback/slower playback, adjustable speed

12. god visualisations

13. a good library

14. EYE CANDY

15. less CPU usage

16. postprocessing, as a low priority process, so that when ram is available, it uses lot of it for postprocessing, but when applications start getting launched, it automatically adjusts the quality so that the other processors wont be affected

17. ompact mode

18. alw@ys on top

19. dvd menus

20. advanced transcoading functions including but not limited to partial extract, stream coppy, matroska, save streaming media, etc.

21. mozilla firefox plugin to replace real alternative, quicktime alternative, wmp plugin, etc.

22. cd burning support(lib-writina)

23. all advanced options accessable via gui

24. PROPER file type extentions. like MP3 Audio, Real Audio, AAC audio, etc, not Media file(mkv) or audio file(mp3) or m4a file

Gusar · 13th June 2007, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

That's not 100% true. What about "libmplayer" as used by ffdshow?

Ah yes, forgot that ffdshow has a file called libmplayer.dll. But, does it contain the full functionality of mplayer? Or is it just some code taken from the mplayer sources and turned into a library, and the only reason it's called libmplayer is to show where the code comes from?

@MetalheadGautham:
You somehow want all features of a full fledged music player (Amarok comes to mind while reading some of the stuff on your list) and the features of a full fledged video player (like the SMPlayer frontend) in the same gui. These are clearly two different feature sets and I think they are better left to specialized apps for each of them.

Kaffeine (a linux-only frontend for xine) would come closest to having everything, but an all-in-one gui will never have the fine-grained control that specialized apps have.

LoRd_MuldeR · 13th June 2007, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Gusar

Ah yes, forgot that ffdshow has a file called libmplayer.dll. But, does it contain the full functionality of mplayer? Or is it just some code taken from the mplayer sources and turned into a library, and the only reason it's called libmplayer is to show where the code comes from?

I'd guess "libmplayer" contains all the core functionality that is shared between MPlayer and MEncoder. Apart from the code in "libavcodec" and "libavformat" of course. Only a speculation though...

Gusar · 13th June 2007, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoRd_MuldeR

I'd guess "libmplayer" contains all the core functionality that is shared between MPlayer and MEncoder. Apart from the code in "libavcodec" and "libavformat" of course. Only a speculation though...

Well, I just had a look at the ffdshow source code. From what's in the mplayer folder, I conclude that the only things in libmplayer are postprocessing filters, software scaler and the mp3 decoder (mp3lib). Definitely not the entire player as a library.

foxyshadis · 13th June 2007, 22:57

libmplayer isn't an official lib, it's just something Milan cooked up to encapsulate the mplayer code that he used. There's a lot more that was dumped.

LoRd_MuldeR · 13th June 2007, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxyshadis

libmplayer isn't an official lib, it's just something Milan cooked up to encapsulate the mplayer code that he used. There's a lot more that was dumped.

Thanks for clearing that up

MetalheadGautham · 14th June 2007, 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusar

You somehow want all features of a full fledged music player (Amarok comes to mind while reading some of the stuff on your list) and the features of a full fledged video player (like the SMPlayer frontend) in the same gui. These are clearly two different feature sets and I think they are better left to specialized apps for each of them.

My problem is that my media fies are of different types, both in formats and video/audio support. Can Songbird be my answer?(I also like the folder view found in foobar2000).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusar

Kaffeine (a linux-only frontend for xine) would come closest to having everything, but an all-in-one gui will never have the fine-grained control that specialized apps have.

actually, I am thinking of switching over to linux

. Can anyone help me?

I have

01. OpenSuSe 10.2 live
02. Vector Linux SOHO 5.1 live
03. Ubuntu Feisty Fawn live
04. Mandriva One spring 2007 live
05. Freespire 1.0(or the latest) Live
06. Slax Kill Bill Edition Live
08. Dyne:Bolic Live
09. Damn Small Linux live
10. nUbuntu cd

I have 256 mb ram

, 2.66 GHz Intel Pentium 4 processor

, intel GMA 900

, NO graphics card

, Soney DVD writer 18x

ethernet

. If there are any more distros worth concidering, please suggest, as these are the one I obtained, both by downloads and free in magazines.

I want a full fledged OS, that can acomplish all of the tasks by GUI and that is easy to use, with good community support.

My Needs:

good gaming support
good for office as well as home use
a nice entartainment system
available win xp theme
available a book that can be refered to in-use for help(optional)

MetalheadGautham · 14th June 2007, 10:13

is gmplayer, the offitial gui for win mplayer, any good? it looked pretty cluttered to me...

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	well, my need is as follows: 1. support for infinite formats 2. no green bars in flv videos 3. opensource(if none, then freeware, but I HATE KMPLAYER) 4. tonnes of video filters 5. a 10 band equiliser with preset values for lots of stuff, especially for METAL.(I am a fan of SOAD, Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Zep, Megadeth, Sabbath, Maiden, rush, etc) 6. NO green bars in flv videos 7. the playlist, the EQ, the controls, the video and the visualizations in the same window, no multiple windows. 8. a built in and effitient transcoader and ripper(x264 and nero aac a must if not nero then faad) 9. cool looking icons for various filetypes 10. a good sound quality. 11. faster playback/slower playback, adjustable speed 12. god visualisations 13. a good library 14. EYE CANDY 15. less CPU usage 16. postprocessing, as a low priority process, so that when ram is available, it uses lot of it for postprocessing, but when applications start getting launched, it automatically adjusts the quality so that the other processors wont be affected 17. ompact mode 18. alw@ys on top 19. dvd menus 20. advanced transcoading functions including but not limited to partial extract, stream coppy, matroska, save streaming media, etc. 21. mozilla firefox plugin to replace real alternative, quicktime alternative, wmp plugin, etc. 22. cd burning support(lib-writina) 23. all advanced options accessable via gui 24. PROPER file type extentions. like MP3 Audio, Real Audio, AAC audio, etc, not Media file(mkv) or audio file(mp3) or m4a file

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	is gmplayer, the offitial gui for win mplayer, any good? it looked pretty cluttered to me... __________________ C:\> File not found. Fake it ?

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ak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 89	The thing is, xine is a library, many audio/video players use it for playback, none of them runs under windows. There's an example xine-win32 frontend, you can get a compile here, fi: http://xine.czechian.net/index.php?section=win32 Dunno how exactly feature-rich this frontend is, it probably won't give you much of idea, but there you go.

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	for the reply. I hope this post becomes as historic as the old request for a GUIed MPlayer for windows... if xine can be ported to windows to look just as it does in linux, it would be awssome...

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	better GUI. DVD menus. xine is in a more advanced stage of developement than MPlayer or VLC(I am a user of both)... and I think the best version of MPlayer is propably the one that comes with MediaCoder..... the offitial download version was a bit buggy... VLC is quite feature rich, with effects and all that, but a bit shakey sometimes with FLV videos and it can't handle some formats like Real Video. It has some bugs doe to which it skips first 2 seconds of some audio. MPlayer is what I use for them. MPUI for Real Video, mplayer.exe for audio formats and long movies(vcd), and VLC for remaining video formats and DVD.

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	well they both support similar formats, but MPlayer is 1.0 and Xine is 1.17, long concidered stable.

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MetalheadGautham Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: well... there is a door in front of my house Posts: 99	I want to know if there is some software like MPUI for xine which can enable me to use xine in windows. and most importantly, do Xine or MPlayer have all the extra stuff found in VLC like colour inversion, blurring, gamma, distortion, 10 band equiliser, filters, de-interlacing, etc?

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Gusar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 103	The main difference between xine and mplayer is that xine is a library while mplayer is a binary. Then there's the few things xine has and mplayer doesn't, like dvd menu support and dscaler deinterlacers (tomsmocomp, greedy low-motion, greedy high-motion, greedy2frame). @MetalheadGautham: Except for the old, buggy and incomplete win32 gui that ak posted a link to (I tested it, it's alpha quality at best and looks horrible, it's basically a proof of concept), there are no xine frontends for windows. Unless you really want dvd menus, you can just as well use mplayer with or without frontend, you won't be missing anything. And like LoRd_MuldeR said, version numbers don't mean anything. You should know that mplayer release management is more or less non-existent, their policy is to always use the latest svn version.

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foxyshadis Angel of Night Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tangled in the silks Posts: 9,569	libmplayer isn't an official lib, it's just something Milan cooked up to encapsulate the mplayer code that he used. There's a lot more that was dumped.