Can any DS-based player play HD-DVD?

kikker · 10th May 2007, 04:11

Can either WMP, MPC, or Zoom play the HD equivalent of a Video_TS folder? I realize PowerDVD HD / WinDVD HD can, but do the other players recognize the HD/Blu-ray structure?

KoD · 10th May 2007, 10:44

No, they can't. And one of the reasons there's not much development in that direction is because specs for the formats are not publicly available.

kikker · 10th May 2007, 18:47

I read in another forum that it is possible to play an .EVO in a DS-based player. You have to use the WMVideo Decoder supplied with the latest WMP and the Sonic Cinemaster Audio decoder along with Haali's media splitter. The poster used graphedit to ensure that those filters indeed were being used by the EVO. Perhaps this doesn't work on all systems and may only work with VC-1 encoded HD-DVDs?

KoD · 11th May 2007, 16:16

You asked about a DS-based (free I guess) player that's able to play the "HD equivalent of a Video_TS". Which does not exist yet.

kikker · 11th May 2007, 16:25

Oh, sorry. I'll have to read up a bit more.

I thought that the HD .EVO was the equivalent of the SD DVD .VOB file. And, perhaps it is, but when the EVO's are organized on the HD in the same way they are on the ripped HD DVD, then no DS-based player can recognize them as a complete HD-DVD. However, it seems a DS-based player can indeed just play the main film directly in the .EVO.

OK, I think that's right. Thanks...

KoD · 12th May 2007, 11:21

Yes, when the structure of the HDDVD/BluRay disc is replicated on the harddisk after ripping, there are more files than just the evo or m2ts files.

Those other files contain descriptions of what's stored inside the evo/m2ts containers, and are required for displaying menus and allowing you to switch subtitles and audio streams from a menu, for instance.

No free direct show player exists that can recognize such a folder as a ripped HDDVD or BluRay disc. If you have no issues with using a commercial player, then at least PowerDVD knows how to treat a directory with the contents of a ripped disc as a HDDVD or BluRay disc.

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kikker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 195	Can any DS-based player play HD-DVD? Can either WMP, MPC, or Zoom play the HD equivalent of a Video_TS folder? I realize PowerDVD HD / WinDVD HD can, but do the other players recognize the HD/Blu-ray structure?

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KoD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 567	No, they can't. And one of the reasons there's not much development in that direction is because specs for the formats are not publicly available.

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kikker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 195	I read in another forum that it is possible to play an .EVO in a DS-based player. You have to use the WMVideo Decoder supplied with the latest WMP and the Sonic Cinemaster Audio decoder along with Haali's media splitter. The poster used graphedit to ensure that those filters indeed were being used by the EVO. Perhaps this doesn't work on all systems and may only work with VC-1 encoded HD-DVDs?

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KoD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 567	You asked about a DS-based (free I guess) player that's able to play the "HD equivalent of a Video_TS". Which does not exist yet.

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kikker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 195	Oh, sorry. I'll have to read up a bit more. I thought that the HD .EVO was the equivalent of the SD DVD .VOB file. And, perhaps it is, but when the EVO's are organized on the HD in the same way they are on the ripped HD DVD, then no DS-based player can recognize them as a complete HD-DVD. However, it seems a DS-based player can indeed just play the main film directly in the .EVO. OK, I think that's right. Thanks...

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KoD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 567	Yes, when the structure of the HDDVD/BluRay disc is replicated on the harddisk after ripping, there are more files than just the evo or m2ts files. Those other files contain descriptions of what's stored inside the evo/m2ts containers, and are required for displaying menus and allowing you to switch subtitles and audio streams from a menu, for instance. No free direct show player exists that can recognize such a folder as a ripped HDDVD or BluRay disc. If you have no issues with using a commercial player, then at least PowerDVD knows how to treat a directory with the contents of a ripped disc as a HDDVD or BluRay disc.