Compatibility ml3dex (medianblur plugin) and MVtools

yup · 14th March 2007, 13:12

Hi folk.
Please advise, can I use MVTools from Fizick for ml3dex function from Medianblur plugin or I neeed use Manao version MVTools.
With kind regards yup.

yup · 15th March 2007, 07:37

Hi all!
Very difficult or stupid question

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Please reply.

Mug Funky · 15th March 2007, 07:41

you could fake it by turning motion compensation off in ml3dex and using your own mocomp interleaved clip. certainly you'll get better wuality that way (at the cost of loads of speed).

by "mocomp interleaved", i mean combining several mvcompensates with interleave(clip1,clip2,clip3,etc), running ml3dex, then using selectevery(n,floor(n/2)) after it to get the original framecount back.

yup · 15th March 2007, 10:07

Hi Mug Funky!

I spent some time for finding plugin for remove black lines from analogue capture source. Ml3dex give good results. Before I try use combination MVTools with DegrainMedian with small picture quality improvement. if I right understand You recomend use ml3dex without motion compensation instead DegrainMedian? Minimum quantity motion compensated frame need 2 or 4? This script right?

Quote:

AviSource("seldv2.avi")
AssumeBFF()
SeparateFields()
SelectEven ()
source=ConvertToYV12()
bv1 = source.MVAnalyse(isb = true, truemotion=true, delta =1, idx = 1, overlap=4,dct=2)
fv1 = source.MVAnalyse(isb = false, truemotion=true, delta = 1, idx = 1, overlap=4, dct=2)
bc1 =source.MVFlow(bv1, idx=2, thSCD1=1000)
fc1 = source.MVFlow(fv1, idx=2, thSCD1=1000)
interleave(bc1, source, fc1)
ml3dex()

Only for for one fields.
With kind regards yup.

yup · 15th March 2007, 10:09

Sorry!

Quote:

bc1 =source.MVFlow(bv1, idx=1, thSCD1=1000)
fc1 = source.MVFlow(fv1, idx=1, thSCD1=1000)

yup.

tsp · 15th March 2007, 20:29

yup: MugFunky suggest using MVTools directly instead of letting ml3dex calling it. It will give a better result as I haven't updated ml3dex to use fizicks version of MVTools. You are still missing a selectevery(3,1) at the end in the script.

yup · 19th March 2007, 08:33

Hi tsp!
Yes SelectEvery(3,1) last line in my script.
Thank You for reply. I spending some time for reading thesis http://www.mee.tcd.ie/~ack/papers/a4ackphd.ps.gz. I understand that I need use 3 frames (1 previous, source and 1 next). also i read that ml3dex not sense to error motion estimation and now try different parametr MVAnalyse. tsp MVTools very popular plugin, very processor power consumable and until not exist GPU version

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With kind regards yup.

tsp · 20th March 2007, 20:00

yup: yes it might be a good idea to see if it possible to speed up mvtools using GPU acceleration. I might want to try to see if it is feasible to do.

Mug Funky · 21st March 2007, 07:03

@ tsp:

if you can get realtime mvdegraining via GPU on big frames, you'll be the queen of summertime

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yup Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 854	Compatibility ml3dex (medianblur plugin) and MVtools Hi folk. Please advise, can I use MVTools from Fizick for ml3dex function from Medianblur plugin or I neeed use Manao version MVTools. With kind regards yup.

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Mug Funky interlace this! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i'm in ur transfers, addin noise Posts: 4,555	you could fake it by turning motion compensation off in ml3dex and using your own mocomp interleaved clip. certainly you'll get better wuality that way (at the cost of loads of speed). by "mocomp interleaved", i mean combining several mvcompensates with interleave(clip1,clip2,clip3,etc), running ml3dex, then using selectevery(n,floor(n/2)) after it to get the original framecount back. __________________ sucking the life out of your videos since 2004

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tsp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 807	yup: MugFunky suggest using MVTools directly instead of letting ml3dex calling it. It will give a better result as I haven't updated ml3dex to use fizicks version of MVTools. You are still missing a selectevery(3,1) at the end in the script. __________________ Get my avisynth filters @ http://www.avisynth.org/tsp/

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tsp Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 807	yup: yes it might be a good idea to see if it possible to speed up mvtools using GPU acceleration. I might want to try to see if it is feasible to do. __________________ Get my avisynth filters @ http://www.avisynth.org/tsp/

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Mug Funky interlace this! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i'm in ur transfers, addin noise Posts: 4,555	@ tsp: if you can get realtime mvdegraining via GPU on big frames, you'll be the queen of summertime __________________ sucking the life out of your videos since 2004

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yup Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 854	Hi all! Very difficult or stupid question ? Please reply.

19th March 2007, 08:33	#7 \| Link
yup Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 854	Hi tsp! Yes SelectEvery(3,1) last line in my script. Thank You for reply. I spending some time for reading thesis http://www.mee.tcd.ie/~ack/papers/a4ackphd.ps.gz. I understand that I need use 3 frames (1 previous, source and 1 next). also i read that ml3dex not sense to error motion estimation and now try different parametr MVAnalyse. tsp MVTools very popular plugin, very processor power consumable and until not exist GPU version . With kind regards yup.