Azid convert 6ch AC3448 to 5.1ch WAV

Moti172 · 4th April 2006, 13:25

Hi

What is the correct syntax for encoding 448kbs AC3 to 5.1ch wav.

I want to rencode the wav to 384kbs AC3, but Azid 1.9 has the deafult parameter -L -3db which downmix LFE into LR.

How can I cancel this parameter?

Second, Does Azid mix the channel order, so there is a need to rearange it , by channel mapping with wavewizard?

Thanks

Moti172 · 4th April 2006, 16:38

This what I get from Azid, with the syntax:
azid -p 6ch -c normal --maximize 1.ac3 1.wav

[00:00:00.000] +------ SETTINGS -----
[00:00:00.000] | Input channel configuration:
[00:00:00.000] | Left : None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Center : None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Right : None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Sur Left : None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Sur Right: None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | LFE : None compression, +0dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Output configuration: 3/2
[00:00:00.000] | Ch0 [Left ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Ch1 [Right ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Ch2 [Sur Left ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Ch3 [Sur Right]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Ch4 [Center ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Ch5 [LFE ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain
[00:00:00.000] | Output Dual mono mode: Stereo
[00:00:00.000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby Pro Logic
[00:00:00.000] | LFE levels: To LR -INF, To LFE +0dB
[00:00:00.000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00.000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00.000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00.000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00.000] +---------------------
[00:00:00.000] +------ BSI -----
[00:00:00.000] | Bitrate: 448 kbit (48 kHz)
[00:00:00.000] | Mode: Complete Main (CM)
[00:00:00.000] | Audio mode: 3/2 L,C,R,SL,SR+LFE
[00:00:00.000] | Center mix level: -3.0dB
[00:00:00.000] | Surround mix level: -3.0dB
[00:00:00.000] | Dialogue level: -31dB
[00:00:00.000] | Stream: Copyright protected, Original stream
[00:00:00.000] +----------------
[02:10:01.120] +------ BSI -----
[02:10:01.120] | Bitrate: 448 kbit (48 kHz)
[02:10:01.120] | Mode: Complete Main (CM)
[02:10:01.120] | Audio mode: 3/2 L,C,R,SL,SR+LFE
[02:10:01.120] | Center mix level: -3.0dB
[02:10:01.120] | Surround mix level: -3.0dB
[02:10:01.120] | Dialogue level: -27dB
[02:10:01.120] | Language: English
[02:10:01.120] | Stream: Copyright protected, Original stream
[02:10:01.120] +----------------
[02:10:01.600] +------ STATS -----
[02:10:01.600] | Decoded frames: 243800
[02:10:01.600] | Peak signal level: +0dB
[02:10:01.600] | Ch0: -3.0dB
[02:10:01.600] | Ch1: -2.7dB
[02:10:01.600] | Ch2: -4.6dB
[02:10:01.600] | Ch3: -3.5dB
[02:10:01.600] | Ch4: +0dB - 1 overflows
[02:10:01.600] | Ch5: -1.8dB
[02:10:01.600] +------------------

If I understand it correctly than the channel order was mixed up from: FL C FR SL SR LFE to FL FR SL SR C LFE

So I'll need to rearange it with wavewizard.

Is it currect and if so is there away to control the channel order with Azid?

tebasuna51 · 4th April 2006, 20:06

From azid.txt (doc for azid):

"-p 6ch. This setting will produce a 6 channel output, 3/2+lfe. The command prompt equivalent is: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,sl,sr,c,lfe"

Then instead -p 6ch you can use:
-d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,c,lfe,sl,sr
if you want a correct ordered wav, or
-d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,c,r,sl,sr,lfe
if you want a wav reordered for use like input for SoftEncode, Headac3he, ffmpeg, and others free ac3 encoders.

Moti172 · 5th April 2006, 06:16

Thank you

danpos · 6th July 2006, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by tebasuna51

From azid.txt (doc for azid):

"-p 6ch. This setting will produce a 6 channel output, 3/2+lfe. The command prompt equivalent is: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,sl,sr,c,lfe"

Then instead -p 6ch you can use:
-d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,c,lfe,sl,sr
if you want a correct ordered wav, or
-d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,c,r,sl,sr,lfe
if you want a wav reordered for use like input for SoftEncode, Headac3he, ffmpeg, and others free ac3 encoders.

Hi mate! I tested the second way out and it worked with the aften free AC3 encoder. The channels order was kept after the conversion with aften. One question: which would be the option to used with azid.dll BeSweet's plugin to provide the same ordered 6 channels wave in order to be used as input in aften?

topic covering aften here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...746#post847746

TIA,

tebasuna51 · 7th July 2006, 02:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by danpos

One question: which would be the option to used with azid.dll BeSweet's plugin to provide the same ordered 6 channels wave in order to be used as input in aften?

Sorry, but azid.dll for BeSweet don't have the same parameters than azid.exe. AFAIK there aren't a -o equivalent option for azid.dll.

You can use WaveWizard (channelmaping preset "ac3 order for SoftEncode or ac3enc") to re-order the BeSweet output wav for use with aften.

Kuningas · 2nd December 2009, 11:25

How to get 6 wavs files from ac3 using azid (not besweet)?

tebasuna51 · 2nd December 2009, 13:16

Don't exist that option (read the azid.txt in the azid v1.9 build 922, 2003-12-18, package).
- Use azid and WaweWizard or WaveSplit(BeHappy)
- Or use Besweet
- Or use BeHappy
- Or use eac3to (the more simple option)

Kuningas · 2nd December 2009, 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by tebasuna51

Don't exist that option (read the azid.txt in the azid v1.9 build 922, 2003-12-18, package).
- Use azid and WaweWizard or WaveSplit(BeHappy)
- Or use Besweet
- Or use BeHappy
- Or use eac3to (the more simple option)

Thanks )
I thought that have missed something. Azid can output as 5.1 wav, so it would be nice to split it without Besweet etc.

tebasuna51 · 2nd December 2009, 17:42

To output a compliant wav 5.1 remember use the azid parameters: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,c,lfe,sl,sr

After you can split in monowavs with WaveWizard (GUI) or WaveSplit (command line)

Kuningas · 3rd December 2009, 07:59

Ok. Thank you )

trodas · 12th April 2015, 22:58

So, to make things clear - is there any way to increase the dialogue volume level when coverting AC3 file to wav stereo file?

I'm quite confused from the option -n BOOL, --norm=BOOL ...
http://forum.ripp-it.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=2167

Looks like I could only enable the normalization of the dialogue or NOT. Is that correct? Or can I bring the volume up a bit...?

I think not, because there is no algoritm, that could pick just the words from the sound, but I rather ask professionals, what they think.

filler56789 · 13th April 2015, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by trodas

So, to make things clear - is there any way to increase the dialogue volume level when coverting AC3 file to wav stereo file?

If I were you, I would leave Azid in the distant past, and would use, for example, GraphStudio + ffdshow's audio decoder&processor. Worked great for me last week

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Moti172 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 98	Azid convert 6ch AC3448 to 5.1ch WAV Hi What is the correct syntax for encoding 448kbs AC3 to 5.1ch wav. I want to rencode the wav to 384kbs AC3, but Azid 1.9 has the deafult parameter -L -3db which downmix LFE into LR. How can I cancel this parameter? Second, Does Azid mix the channel order, so there is a need to rearange it , by channel mapping with wavewizard? Thanks

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Kuningas Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Russia Posts: 11	How to get 6 wavs files from ac3 using azid (not besweet)? __________________ In vino veritas

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tebasuna51 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 7,459	Don't exist that option (read the azid.txt in the azid v1.9 build 922, 2003-12-18, package). - Use azid and WaweWizard or WaveSplit(BeHappy) - Or use Besweet - Or use BeHappy - Or use eac3to (the more simple option) Last edited by tebasuna51; 2nd December 2009 at 13:39. Reason: added link to last azid package

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Kuningas Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Russia Posts: 11	Ok. Thank you ) __________________ In vino veritas

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trodas WinXP SP3 suxx :-/ Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 201	So, to make things clear - is there any way to increase the dialogue volume level when coverting AC3 file to wav stereo file? I'm quite confused from the option -n BOOL, --norm=BOOL ... http://forum.ripp-it.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=2167 Looks like I could only enable the normalization of the dialogue or NOT. Is that correct? Or can I bring the volume up a bit...? I think not, because there is no algoritm, that could pick just the words from the sound, but I rather ask professionals, what they think. __________________ "It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong." - Voltaire ...just keep folding, just keep folding... :) my config - my caps

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Moti172 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 98	This what I get from Azid, with the syntax: azid -p 6ch -c normal --maximize 1.ac3 1.wav [00:00:00.000] +------ SETTINGS ----- [00:00:00.000] \| Input channel configuration: [00:00:00.000] \| Left : None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Center : None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Right : None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Sur Left : None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Sur Right: None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| LFE : None compression, +0dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Output configuration: 3/2 [00:00:00.000] \| Ch0 [Left ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Ch1 [Right ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Ch2 [Sur Left ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Ch3 [Sur Right]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Ch4 [Center ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Ch5 [LFE ]: Normal compression, +1.3dB gain [00:00:00.000] \| Output Dual mono mode: Stereo [00:00:00.000] \| Output Stereo mode: Dolby Pro Logic [00:00:00.000] \| LFE levels: To LR -INF, To LFE +0dB [00:00:00.000] \| Center mix level: BSI [00:00:00.000] \| Surround mix level: BSI [00:00:00.000] \| Dialog normalization: No [00:00:00.000] \| Rear channels filtering: No [00:00:00.000] +--------------------- [00:00:00.000] +------ BSI ----- [00:00:00.000] \| Bitrate: 448 kbit (48 kHz) [00:00:00.000] \| Mode: Complete Main (CM) [00:00:00.000] \| Audio mode: 3/2 L,C,R,SL,SR+LFE [00:00:00.000] \| Center mix level: -3.0dB [00:00:00.000] \| Surround mix level: -3.0dB [00:00:00.000] \| Dialogue level: -31dB [00:00:00.000] \| Stream: Copyright protected, Original stream [00:00:00.000] +---------------- [02:10:01.120] +------ BSI ----- [02:10:01.120] \| Bitrate: 448 kbit (48 kHz) [02:10:01.120] \| Mode: Complete Main (CM) [02:10:01.120] \| Audio mode: 3/2 L,C,R,SL,SR+LFE [02:10:01.120] \| Center mix level: -3.0dB [02:10:01.120] \| Surround mix level: -3.0dB [02:10:01.120] \| Dialogue level: -27dB [02:10:01.120] \| Language: English [02:10:01.120] \| Stream: Copyright protected, Original stream [02:10:01.120] +---------------- [02:10:01.600] +------ STATS ----- [02:10:01.600] \| Decoded frames: 243800 [02:10:01.600] \| Peak signal level: +0dB [02:10:01.600] \| Ch0: -3.0dB [02:10:01.600] \| Ch1: -2.7dB [02:10:01.600] \| Ch2: -4.6dB [02:10:01.600] \| Ch3: -3.5dB [02:10:01.600] \| Ch4: +0dB - 1 overflows [02:10:01.600] \| Ch5: -1.8dB [02:10:01.600] +------------------ If I understand it correctly than the channel order was mixed up from: FL C FR SL SR LFE to FL FR SL SR C LFE So I'll need to rearange it with wavewizard. Is it currect and if so is there away to control the channel order with Azid?

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tebasuna51 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 7,459	From azid.txt (doc for azid): "-p 6ch. This setting will produce a 6 channel output, 3/2+lfe. The command prompt equivalent is: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,sl,sr,c,lfe" Then instead -p 6ch you can use: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,c,lfe,sl,sr if you want a correct ordered wav, or -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,c,r,sl,sr,lfe if you want a wav reordered for use like input for SoftEncode, Headac3he, ffmpeg, and others free ac3 encoders.

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Moti172 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 98	Thank you

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tebasuna51 Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 7,459	To output a compliant wav 5.1 remember use the azid parameters: -d3/2 -L0 -l1 -ol,r,c,lfe,sl,sr After you can split in monowavs with WaveWizard (GUI) or WaveSplit (command line)