Hauppauge PVR-250 huge black border

Camd00d · 24th December 2003, 06:24

For some reason both of my video sources (one is a VCR, the other a digital cable box) come into my PC with HUGE black bars on the right side of the video. Some people refer to this as OVERSCAN. But it's more than that I think. Because if I record this video exactly as it is, burn it to DVD without cropping it in any way, and then play it on a stand alone TV a lot of the black bar is visible on the right of my TV screen! The black bar would NOT show up if going direct from VCR to TV btw.

Previously had a capture card that captured AVI to Huffyuv. Then I took the AVI through TMPGEnc and during the encoding process, managed to "Clip Frame" and cut off black borders on the right side of the video. This was perfect, the final MPG file when burned had no border and it fit perfectly in the stand alone TV and looked great.

NEW PROBLEM: My AVI capture card died so I decided to go with Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 card. I wanted to capture MPG in real time, and skip the entire encoding time in TMPGEnc. So far, it's working great BUT THE BLACK BAR IS BACK!!! The gigantic black line on the right of the source video is the same size on this hauppauge card as it was with my previous capture card. The problem is that the video I capture with the Hauppauge is already MPG. So I can't easily crop the black bar on the right before I burn?

Can anyone help? The goal is to basically 'stretch', or crop, or resize the video with this capture card or at least move it over to the right so the black bar isn't so big - without re-encoding it all. How?

2ZOD.COM · 24th December 2003, 06:50

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The goal is to basically 'stretch', or crop, or resize the video with this capture card or at least move it over to the right so the black bar isn't so big - without re-encoding

Not possible. If you're talking about removing part of the video, then there's no way to get around encoding it again.

You would probably get better results capturing with HuffyUV and then converting to MPEG in tmpGENC, but if what you do works, whatever.

What program are you using to capture? Maybe that's your problem. You should be able to change the resolution and stuff if it's any decent program.

Camd00d · 25th December 2003, 00:45

WinTV2000.

OK so if there's no way to edit the video, how can I tell this card to only capture x# of pixels from the right side?

Changing capture resolution only takes the same video and scales it to a smaller size, bar and all. I want to actually cut pixels.

MidnightWatcher · 9th October 2006, 07:52

Hey, has anybody found a solution to this? I have the same problem and it's damn annoying!!

DoC hEx · 11th October 2006, 18:17

I have a PVR-350. Do you get the black bar when watching normal TV? Or just when Capturing?

Also WinTV doesn't do proper Widescreen, I've had problems with this in the past.

DeathKing · 16th October 2006, 22:25

I have Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II and I always get these black bars too. If I watch TV in Media Center I dont see the black bars, but with Nero, Media Center and Sonic MyDVD I always get the black bars when I caputure. The only solution Ive found is too encode to XviD, as it normaly cuts out the black bars.

Example:

LocalH · 19th October 2006, 21:16

There's nothing wrong with that image, and if the video it was taken from is burned to DVD, it should play back properly. The black bars on the left and right are part of the actual signal, as captured.

24th December 2003, 06:24	#1 \| Link
Camd00d Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	Hauppauge PVR-250 huge black border For some reason both of my video sources (one is a VCR, the other a digital cable box) come into my PC with HUGE black bars on the right side of the video. Some people refer to this as OVERSCAN. But it's more than that I think. Because if I record this video exactly as it is, burn it to DVD without cropping it in any way, and then play it on a stand alone TV a lot of the black bar is visible on the right of my TV screen! The black bar would NOT show up if going direct from VCR to TV btw. Previously had a capture card that captured AVI to Huffyuv. Then I took the AVI through TMPGEnc and during the encoding process, managed to "Clip Frame" and cut off black borders on the right side of the video. This was perfect, the final MPG file when burned had no border and it fit perfectly in the stand alone TV and looked great. NEW PROBLEM: My AVI capture card died so I decided to go with Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 card. I wanted to capture MPG in real time, and skip the entire encoding time in TMPGEnc. So far, it's working great BUT THE BLACK BAR IS BACK!!! The gigantic black line on the right of the source video is the same size on this hauppauge card as it was with my previous capture card. The problem is that the video I capture with the Hauppauge is already MPG. So I can't easily crop the black bar on the right before I burn? Can anyone help? The goal is to basically 'stretch', or crop, or resize the video with this capture card or at least move it over to the right so the black bar isn't so big - without re-encoding it all. How?

11th October 2006, 18:17	#5 \| Link
DoC hEx 2 VB R !2 VB Dat is D Q? Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 110	I have a PVR-350. Do you get the black bar when watching normal TV? Or just when Capturing? Also WinTV doesn't do proper Widescreen, I've had problems with this in the past. Last edited by DoC hEx; 11th October 2006 at 18:20.

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DeathKing Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3	I have Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II and I always get these black bars too. If I watch TV in Media Center I dont see the black bars, but with Nero, Media Center and Sonic MyDVD I always get the black bars when I caputure. The only solution Ive found is too encode to XviD, as it normaly cuts out the black bars. Example: Last edited by DeathKing; 16th October 2006 at 22:26. Reason: adding picture

25th December 2003, 00:45	#3 \| Link
Camd00d Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 11	WinTV2000. OK so if there's no way to edit the video, how can I tell this card to only capture x# of pixels from the right side? Changing capture resolution only takes the same video and scales it to a smaller size, bar and all. I want to actually cut pixels.

9th October 2006, 07:52	#4 \| Link
MidnightWatcher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9	Hey, has anybody found a solution to this? I have the same problem and it's damn annoying!!

19th October 2006, 21:16	#7 \| Link
LocalH Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 135	There's nothing wrong with that image, and if the video it was taken from is burned to DVD, it should play back properly. The black bars on the left and right are part of the actual signal, as captured.