How to config ffdshow/LAV and reclock for HD audio,

[whurlston]

Originally Posted by rica

I suppose whurlston will give the response since he is the guy (his nick is vladd on avs forum) who makes Arcsoft hack.
Really i don't remember how to do since i don't use it for some time.

For the ArcSoft renderer, you should just be able to register the ax file but I could be wrong (I can't remember the filename at the moment. ASRenderer.ax or something like that.)

If that doesn't do it, my guide for using TMT 3 filters is located at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=316

[rica]

Originally Posted by rahzel

What about the regular ReClock config settings? Are you only required to change the settings in the red boxes for this to work properly? Again, I changed everything to mirror your settings exactly so I can't really find out on my own.

I hope i'm going to update my first post late in the night today.

Originally Posted by whurlston

For the ArcSoft renderer, you should just be able to register the ax file but I could be wrong (I can't remember the filename at the moment. ASRenderer.ax or something like that.)

If that doesn't do it, my guide for using TMT 3 filters is located at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=316

Thanks vladd for your support.

[whurlston]

No problem. Thanks for alerting me to it. I've been AWOL lately due to work and other projects.

[rica]

Thanks again whurlston

BTW the first post has been edited finally

[Andy o]

Originally Posted by whurlston

If that doesn't do it, my guide for using TMT 3 filters is located at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=316

Did you ever get Cyberlink (PDVD9) filters to work? Specifically, for decoding DTS-HD audio. I seem to recall you did.

[Andy o]

Rica, why do you say this on the first post?

Ati 57**, 58** users don't use Realtek drivers,
Ati 56** users, you should use Realtek or specific Ati drivers.

My understanding is that all 5000 cards behave the same with the same HDMI audio driver.

[rica]

Originally Posted by Andy o

Rica, why do you say this on the first post?
My understanding is that all 5000 cards behave the same with the same HDMI audio driver.

Thanks andy, i've corrected as:

Ati 5*** series users: i'd advise you not to use Realtek but original Ati drivers.

[zilexa]

Just a short noobish question, running WinXP here since I want to keep my HTPC as light as possible. Reading this topic it's only about Vista/7. I suppose all this nice stuff is impossible in XP?

[rica]

Originally Posted by zilexa

Just a short noobish question, running WinXP here since I want to keep my HTPC as light as possible. Reading this topic it's only about Vista/7. I suppose all this nice stuff is impossible in XP?

WASAPI doesn't work with XP. Kernel streaming does this job with XP..
I can not check if Reclock automatically selects Kernel option instead of WASAPI on XP OS.
If so give it a go with Kernel. But i'm not sure if the HW is gonna support kernel btw?

[rahzel]

Thanks for updating the guide, rica. I have a few questions now.

1) I remember you saying this:

Originally Posted by rica

Hi rahzel,

I'm about to update my first post.

Maybe tomorrow or the day after.

You are gonna able to get bitsream or bitperfect streaming with ReClock without changing anything on inline config.

But I thought it was necessary to make those changes in the inline config to achieve bitperfect streaming (like slave reference clock to audio, lock it at original speed etc.,)?

2) May I ask what's wrong with the Realtek drivers? I have a Radeon 5450. I'm asking because I have the Realtek ones installed right now and wondering if I need to switch.

3)I noticed you added a method for bitstreaming via WASAPI and Wave Out mode. For TrueHD/DTS-HD MA bitstreaming, which method is best? If I understand correctly, using WASAPI mode will allow you to use ReClock for bitstreaming, so is this the best method? Isn't it good to use ReClock whenever possible?

4) I thought I had everything working properly. Bitstreaming works as I get the indicator lights on my AVR. But I'm not sure about FLAC. I decided to make sure using GraphEdit, and mine doesn't say that's it's using ReClock renderer but Default DirectSound instead, however there's a yellow reclock icon in the directsound box. Weird thing is, when I right click the MPC HC screen and check filters, it says it's using ReClock Audio Renderer.

will post pics in a sec

First here's FLAC (don't mind the refresh rate, I have it in 60Hz now just to show):


And here's bitstream via WASAPI mode:


Sorry for the noobish questions. I'm fairly new to this.

[rica]

Hi,

I never advise Realtek drivers since i've had issues with some applications. But if you are happy with them, why not?

Both WASAPI and WaveOut methods give bitstreaming over ReClock.
Those are alternative ways for bitstreaming.
But if you are asking what i'm using for bitstreaming, i prefer to use directsound (no ReClock) in bitstreaming.

BTW all the methods are used via Default direct sound on GraphEdit, i mean ReClock is used over DirectSound Device (in case wave out, wasapi); no doubt
But it is ReClock for sure. (You wouldn't see any yellow clock icon on Default DirectSound Device window if it wasn't used by Reclock.)

Edit:
Just saw tis:

Originally Posted by rahzel

Thanks for updating the guide, rica. I have a few questions now.

1) I remember you saying this:
But I thought it was necessary to make those changes in the inline config to achieve bitperfect streaming (like slave reference clock to audio, lock it at original speed etc.,)?

For bitperfect streaming: YES.

[rahzel]

Thanks. So everything is working as it should? Wonder why my graph looks different than yours.

Lastly, is there any reason why you prefer directsound for bitstreaming? Is it just a preference thing, or is there something that makes directsound better? I thought in order to ensure that you have jitter free video etc., is by using reclock as the renderer?

[rica]

Originally Posted by rahzel

Thanks. So everything is working as it should? Wonder why my graph looks different than yours.

Lastly, is there any reason why you prefer directsound for bitstreaming? Is it just a preference thing, or is there something that makes directsound better? I thought in order to ensure that you have jitter free video etc., is by using reclock as the renderer?

Yes, everything is working as it should.

Don't remember what i used. maybe graphstudio or graphedit.
I think you have to update your graphedit.
Another thing: i connected to remote graph while MPC was working; so you saw online screencaps.

No need to use Reclock (even author James doesn't advise it) for bitstreaming if you don't have to.
For instance if you have Clarkdale but you don't have MEI installed, ReClock bitstreaming is an obligation with ArcSoft TMT3/170.

Addiıonal info might be found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post18367260


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[rahzel]

Yeah, I might have an older version. I just grabbed the first one I saw when I googled "graphedit".

edit: got the newest version and still the same thing. Oh well, I'm assuming it's working properly.

Thanks a lot. You've been a huge help.

[rahzel]

Ahh... this is kind of bugging me. If it says it's using ReClock audio renderer in MPC HC when I'm streaming FLAC, it must be, right? When bitstreaming via directsound mode, MPC HC also correctly says it's using default directsound device. When I open a movie with TrueHD or DTSHD MA in graphedit, the directsound device also has a reclock logo just like it does for FLAC (like the pic above). I'm willing to believe what MPC HC tells me over what graphedit is telling me, but I just find it odd that graphedit is displaying what it is. It's making me feel uncertain that I am in fact getting bit-perfect FLAC streaming.

[rica]

Originally Posted by rahzel

Ahh... this is kind of bugging me. If it says it's using ReClock audio renderer in MPC HC when I'm streaming FLAC, it must be, right? When bitstreaming via directsound mode, MPC HC also correctly says it's using default directsound device. When I open a movie with TrueHD or DTSHD MA in graphedit, the directsound device also has a reclock logo just like it does for FLAC (like the pic above). I'm willing to believe what MPC HC tells me over what graphedit is telling me, but I just find it odd that graphedit is displaying what it is. It's making me feel uncertain that I am in fact getting bit-perfect FLAC streaming.

Don't feel yourself uncertain; graphedit wouldn't tell you the truth always but your AVR's blue light does

[Andy o]

I don't think it's advisable to bitstream with Clarkdale at all, since it doesn't do 23.976, only 24.000. So it's one of those cases where ReClock's resampling is needed for smooth playback.

[dbone1026]

Originally Posted by Andy o

I don't think it's advisable to bitstream with Clarkdale at all, since it doesn't do 23.976, only 24.000. So it's one of those cases where ReClock's resampling is needed for smooth playback.

But this is assuming you want 23.976 playback, correct? I have never tried to play my BR rips at 23.976, I just use whatever default setting my tv uses (My Panny has an option for 23.976 but seems like too much work to have to switch to this every time I want to play back at this fps). Honestly not even sure what the benefit is of trying to play back at 23.976, I have no issues with smooth playback currently.

[Andy o]

Are you running your TV at 60 Hz? Or 59.97 Hz maybe?

[dbone1026]

Originally Posted by Andy o

Are you running your TV at 60 Hz? Or 59.97 Hz maybe?

Honestly no clue, I assume it is 59.97 Hz. I have the Panasonic 58PZ800U. It has a 23.976fps mode, but if you want this you have to manually switch to (which I never did, I heard there were flicker issues with t his model tv).