ffdshow tryouts project: Discussion & Development - Page 568

Keiyakusha · 11th April 2010, 23:57

because even if they are technically the same, they are not connected with each other.

rica · 12th April 2010, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by err

hallo, I would like to ask something, I use mpc (1775) with ffdshow tryouts 20100331_clsid_x64 and I encounter two problems:
1)I cannot get the haali media splitter work with hd audio no matter what I do I get unsynchronised audio with video very slow.Is there any workaround?
2)when i play videos other than mkv, with dolby digital sound (ac3, mp3 whatever) I cannot get the sound without interruptions.Every 10-20secs the sound stops for 2 secs and starts again.the codecs I use is ffdshow or the built in mpc codecs and I always get the same result.The only way to make this work is to set it to speakers instead of spdif in the built in player just as the screenshot and I get multichannel pcm in my receiver even though it is really 2.1.What can I do?I use radeon 5850 with 10.3 drivers.Thanx in advance

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

is the internal mpc-hc splitter the same as the gabest splitter? if not, wheres the option to reactivate the gabest splitter? (haali installation gives the me choice to deactivate it when installing, but how can I activate it again without deinstalling haali?)

I tried my .mkv file with the mpc-hc internal matroska splitter instead of haali, but essentially it was the same. ac3filter remained listed as filter for all 3 tracks, but there was only sound input and output for the default 5.1 track - no sound (modification) through ac3filter for the other track inside that file.

Guys, you may find out some common answers to your questions here:

(even you'll find the answer of how to make Haali as easily selectable filter in MPC-HC.)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...34#post1370134

Gabest splitter and Haali are completely different filters.
Gabest comes with MPC-HC (or as an external filter).
Haali is different.

Here is the comparison of them:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...97#post1382497

btw err, pls read my post carefully and you have two options:

1) Untick internal LPCM filter in MPC-HC and leave ffdshow configuration as LPCM enabled.
2) Untick LPCM filter in MPC-HC and unable LPCM in ffdshow and try WASAPI exclusive(for PCM) via ReClock (haali needed this time) and/or untick the rest of all audio formats and bitstream with DirectSound.

Thunderbolt8 · 12th April 2010, 02:50

why do I have to install mpc-hc after all other filters? or even reinstall it again after having changed a version of ffdshow or reclock?

and why to untick those splitter options for gabest etc. at haali installation? as soon as I tick 'matroska' for internal filters, it uses the internal filter and not haali any more.

rica · 12th April 2010, 03:16

If you install haali with its default settings, even if you select (tick) internal filters in MPC, Haali will be selected as preferred renderer.

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

why do I have to install mpc-hc after all other filters? or even reinstall it again after having changed a version of ffdshow or reclock?

Sorry, it's not my choice, this is a "defacto" situation.

swordsman · 12th April 2010, 04:41

Yes, I do

Thunderbolt8 · 12th April 2010, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

If you install haali with its default settings, even if you select (tick) internal filters in MPC, Haali will be selected as preferred renderer.

well, what do you mean by that? when I tick the internal renderer and I play a remuxed HD movie with flac audio I cannot see haali being loaded. no taskbar icon, nothing of haali mentioned in filters. the menu & track list in mpc-hc doesnt look like haali at all then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

Sorry, it's not my choice, this is a "defacto" situation.

"what" is the defacto situation? I definately can install mpc-hc after installing all the filters and it still plays all my remuxed HD movies fine. Ive always done it this way so far.

swordsman · 12th April 2010, 13:05

Ok, nobody wants to update lffdecoder.h, so I can't recompile my prog to use new versions of ffdshow ;-(
Another question - is where any interface description to ffdshow DXVA?

Keiyakusha · 12th April 2010, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

If you install haali with its default settings, even if you select (tick) internal filters in MPC, Haali will be selected as preferred renderer.

Renderer? Do you mean splitter? If so, this is not true. Enabling internal splitter will override haali splitter. Haali won't be loaded.

Thunderbolt8 · 12th April 2010, 15:20

^^thats what I mean as well

albain · 12th April 2010, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsman

Ok, nobody wants to update lffdecoder.h, so I can't recompile my prog to use new versions of ffdshow ;-(
Another question - is where any interface description to ffdshow DXVA?

You can do it yourself, you know delphi's coding, the effort is not huge

I don't have time for now

rica · 12th April 2010, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiyakusha

Renderer? Do you mean splitter? If so, this is not true. Enabling internal splitter will override haali splitter. Haali won't be loaded.

Yes it was a typo; isn't it very clear?

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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

^^thats what I mean as well

I guess you were asking something, were you?

It seemed to me you were confusing splitters, so i gave the second link in my post.
The remaining is might be related with the only current configuration method of MPC-HC or Haali. (it's just the formal side of the content.)
But thanks anyway, i'll give it a go some time.

Keiyakusha · 13th April 2010, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by rica

Yes it was a typo; isn't it very clear?

Yes, its very clear. So clear that normally no one will point that out, but some less experienced users may be confused. Anyway the main part of my post was about splitter loading.

rica · 13th April 2010, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Keiyakusha

Anyway the main part of my post was about splitter loading.

Yes i know.
Let me switch off myself since it's not the right thread in which discusssing on unrelated stuff.

Thunderbolt8 · 13th April 2010, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsid

ffdshow can downmix as well.

MPC menu -> Play -> Filters -> bottom filter -> there you can switch streams

well, ive tried it now with the internal splitter as well and also without reclock, but my problem still remains: ac3filter gets dropped or doesnt have any sound for the other tracks. so is this now a kind of bug? if so, what prog/filter is responsible?

swordsman · 14th April 2010, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by albain

You can do it yourself, you know delphi's coding, the effort is not huge

I don't have time for now

Ok, I can do it myself, but what had I do if I don't
know what you changed in lffdecoder.h (which functions you add,
remove or rearranged)

fastplayer · 14th April 2010, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsman

Ok, I can do it myself, but what had I do if I don't
know what you changed in lffdecoder.h (which functions you add,
remove or rearranged)

...but you do know:
http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforg...der.h?view=log

swordsman · 15th April 2010, 08:54

Yes, I have this one.
I thought, that as Albain said he "added 3 methods to manipulate the audio/subtitle streams inside", the interface was changed.
Sorry, my mistake.

clsid · 15th April 2010, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8

well, ive tried it now with the internal splitter as well and also without reclock, but my problem still remains: ac3filter gets dropped or doesnt have any sound for the other tracks. so is this now a kind of bug? if so, what prog/filter is responsible?

Are you using S/PDIF output? If so, it is probably related to the fact that only one filter instance can have exclusive access to it.

Thunderbolt8 · 15th April 2010, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by clsid

Are you using S/PDIF output? If so, it is probably related to the fact that only one filter instance can have exclusive access to it.

no, just normal output.

hoborg · 16th April 2010, 08:17

Finally, in ATI Catalyst 10.5 preview, ATI introduced full h.264 DXVA decoding support including profile 5.1 and 16ref frames (DXVA 2.0)
Look on video on this page:
http://www.diit.cz/clanek/akcelerace...funguje/36026/

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Keiyakusha 契約者 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,506	because even if they are technically the same, they are not connected with each other.

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,787	why do I have to install mpc-hc after all other filters? or even reinstall it again after having changed a version of ffdshow or reclock? and why to untick those splitter options for gabest etc. at haali installation? as soon as I tick 'matroska' for internal filters, it uses the internal filter and not haali any more.

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swordsman Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 18	Yes, I do

12th April 2010, 13:05	#11347 \| Link
swordsman Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 18	Ok, nobody wants to update lffdecoder.h, so I can't recompile my prog to use new versions of ffdshow ;-( Another question - is where any interface description to ffdshow DXVA?

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Thunderbolt8 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,787	^^thats what I mean as well

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swordsman Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 18	Yes, I have this one. I thought, that as Albain said he "added 3 methods to manipulate the audio/subtitle streams inside", the interface was changed. Sorry, my mistake.