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videomixer9
25th May 2006, 12:53
just finally get a better isp. :p mytempdir has neither a nifty uploadbar, nor does it save any stats and it only holds file for 21 days max, short said it sucks. filepoint offers me stats, direct downloads and doesn't have any limits I know of, if your ISP got too many kiddies that get you banned everywhere it's sth. they should bother with.

sleepking
25th May 2006, 12:54
@videomixer9 and other uploaders please use www.mytempdir.com instead rapid and filepoint because are both same shit, and what is lastest build some link thanks

i like google,because there i can use download tools. the others link use IE are too slow.

breez
25th May 2006, 13:16
It seems that all 2546 builds compiled with ICL9 randomly crash when seeking video (on my Athlon XP). Pure GCC builds work fine.

shon3i
25th May 2006, 13:33
just finally get a better isp. :p mytempdir has neither a nifty uploadbar, nor does it save any stats and it only holds file for 21 days max, short said it sucks. filepoint offers me stats, direct downloads and doesn't have any limits I know of, if your ISP got too many kiddies that get you banned everywhere it's sth. they should bother with.
Use then SendSpace, Megaupload etc.. or find some server like x264.nl, ask bob0r for mirror. About isp, i told you milion times i can't use different isp and many ppl's, so yo get different uploader.

@drevil_xxl Thank you

_xxl
25th May 2006, 14:01
It seems that all 2546 builds compiled with ICL9 randomly crash when seeking video (on my Athlon XP). Pure GCC builds work fine.
libmplayer.dll and libavcodec.dll are ICL9?

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 14:14
as i can never reproduce any of those people's problem with my athlon xp i'd say it's their systems. Also not helpful when people don't mention the exact builds they tested and which players and versions, especially as we all seem to apply patches now, one more one less and also use different settings. My expierence tells me that "all" doesn't mean all at all.

e.g. last cause that made skipping go wrong was the multithreading patch which is now available in other updated variants.

@shon3i tell me the country with that kind of sucking isp as the only payable one, i'd like to ban it on my other sites ;o

and hm, final gcc 4.1.1 out, need to get some update then I guess. I think it's kinda stupid that original MinGW project doesn't release any new ones anymore though. 4.1.x branch and 4.2.x branch don't seem to be that bad anymore as 4.x was on some points. kurosu should have some compiling fixes for gcc 4.1.x I think, dunno if those are sufficient, just scroll down to bottom of his page and download the pack there.

MatMaul
25th May 2006, 14:19
http://rapidshare.de/files/21336643/ffdshow-20060525.exe.html
http://www.mytempdir.com/690253
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=14E5SLWL
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t72z6q
ffdshow-20060525-rev2546
Applied patches:
high accuracy libmad decoder,high accuracy tremor vorbis decoder,libavcodec proper vorbis 6ch and LPCM,libdts,libfaad2 fixes.
libmplayer.dll and libavcodec.dll are ICL9+GCC3.4.2.

Can you publish your libfaad2 and libdts fixes please?

shon3i
25th May 2006, 16:11
@shon3i tell me the country with that kind of sucking isp as the only payable one, i'd like to ban it on my other sites ;oSure, europe ;)

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 16:22
that's not a country

haruhiko_yamagata
25th May 2006, 16:23
Output queue seems to be effective. Max 35% frame rate improvement! I'll test further before release.

I hope this one line patch would fix Umcompressed
audio connection.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1495022&group_id=53761&atid=471491

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 16:33
gotta hate sf maintenance ... always when you don't want it.

shon3i
25th May 2006, 20:25
that's not a country
it's beacuse if you ban this contry or this isp, you are ban half of EU.

btw thanks for mytempdir mirror, i must ask some question i see some vesion was support WMV 3/9 and WMA 9 pro, or i predict something

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 20:30
sounds like bullshit, germany (82 mio ppl) nor france (60 mio. ppl) nor scandinavia (over 20 mio. ppl) has an ISP which sucks that much, nor italy (58 mio. ppl) or spain (43 mio. ppl) and portugal (10 mio. ppl). Austria or Poland doesn't have forced proxies either, swiss neither. So it must be some major unimportant country. Obviously it's just you having that funny proxy forced.

T-Online, Free.fr, Wanadoo, Chello and Tiscali and Telefonica are prolly the largest ISPs and none of them got this.

I used mytempdir before your bitching but I won't use it again :p

shon3i
25th May 2006, 20:56
I used mytempdir before your bitching but I won't use it again You choice, but you make big mistake of course.

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 20:59
Well your ISP cannot be that big, so I doubt that, obviously it's no major ISP and you're not wanting to tell any names even more suspicious so you're probably just the regular whiner, as long as everyone from all major countries can download I don't have any problems, don't care about the other shitty small countries, especially not suckers in the EU like Greece. Must be the super secret nowdays which isp you use.

Mine is Congster, basically using the same infrastructure as T-Online uses. Monthly Traffic around 320 GB and flatrate without the DSL part costs 4.99€.

bond
25th May 2006, 21:33
videomixer9, you have been asked for cooling down by nic already...

videomixer9
25th May 2006, 21:37
I just wanna know about this mysterious ISP I never heard of, I cannot help but think that it's some made up thing as I don't know any major ISP with forced proxies in europe. So it sounds fake to me. Besides I'm really interested in ISP stuff, wanna know all the weird ISPs around the world. shon3i only seems to want to provoke and get his will, as he doesn't name anything it's whining to me.

TheShadowRunner
25th May 2006, 23:43
Kurosu, a new build from you would be greatly appreciated ;)
See you,

TSR

MacAddict
25th May 2006, 23:51
No need for the constant swearing. Given that I do appreciate your efforts on the new builds :-)

Egh
26th May 2006, 00:40
germany (82 mio ppl) nor france (60 mio. ppl) nor scandinavia (over 20 mio. ppl) has an ISP which sucks that much, nor italy (58 mio. ppl) or spain (43 mio. ppl) and portugal (10 mio. ppl).
:p

Amongst big EU member states you forgot the UK :) Here you can easily get 8mbps download w/o any traffic limits (like I have) and I don't have any difficulties downloading from either of the mirrors you put your builds on.

The ones complaining about downloads should just provide webhosting themselves :P

As for problems on Athlon XP, I never had any crashes with you recent builds at all while randomly seeking videos.

foxyshadis
26th May 2006, 00:53
Output queue seems to be effective. Max 35% frame rate improvement! I'll test further before release.

Wow. I'm glad it works so well, for an offhand suggestion. Does it utilize nearly 100% cpu now?

ps, guys, there's PMs for personal discussions.

breez
26th May 2006, 02:14
libmplayer.dll and libavcodec.dll are ICL9?

Yes, at least on your latest compile, but probably also on the other ICL builds I have tried during the past week or two.

issa
26th May 2006, 07:24
Off Topic
GCC 4.1.2 svn aka GCC 4.1.1 release.
Alias problem fixed.

Download: MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2C4IL9XH)

haruhiko_yamagata
26th May 2006, 12:03
Wow. I'm glad it works so well, for an offhand suggestion. Does it utilize nearly 100% cpu now?

Thank you.
CPU utilization does not differ much from prior version.

Samples we send video renderer have time stamps. Video renderer blocks untill it is time to render. CPU have to wait, if it is not queued. Output queue utilizes this waste of time.

It can be translated into the following.

To make frame drops zero,
[Not queued] max time of decoding/processing < 1 / (frame rate)
[Ideally queued] avarage time of decoding/processing < 1/ (frame rate)

Video renderer drops frame if the sample arrives late. It means all the time spent to decode and process the sample was wasted. If the samples are queued properly, video renderer doesn't drop frames. That's why frame rate increases without increasing CPU utilization much.

shon3i
28th May 2006, 20:47
I founded some bug in this lastest and probably few before versions of ffdshow. This file (http://www.mytempdir.com/698466) splitted from original film encoded a few months before whasn't played with this ffdshow, but with CoreAVC everything is fine. I think when i encode this film current verision of x264 is be something around rev503.

thuan
29th May 2006, 00:26
Confirmed, that sample works fine with CoreAVC 0.4alpha, but not with vm9's newest ffdshow.

EDIT: It seems to be a ICL9 problem, clsid's newest build works ok, but his older icl compiled also crash in module ffdshow.ax.

bennynihon
29th May 2006, 00:28
Videomixer9...your 32-bit builds work very well for me. Just wondering if you or anyone else has had success with a 64-bit build that can run on winxp x64. thanks.

celtic_druid
29th May 2006, 04:17
In my limited testing, my build worked fine. Haven't heard any reports from anyone else though. Other then I think one instance of someone trying to use it in a 32bit app. All my testing was done with the 64bit version of Graphedit.

shon3i
29th May 2006, 11:27
Confirmed, that sample works fine with CoreAVC 0.4alpha, but not with vm9's newest ffdshow.

EDIT: It seems to be a ICL9 problem, clsid's newest build works ok, but his older icl compiled also crash in module ffdshow.ax.
So what bild to download and use, please link, i am confused, because many ppl's now comile ffdshow.

_xxl
29th May 2006, 12:35
Compilers used:
MSVC71:ffdshow.ax
ICL9+GCC3.4.2:libavcodec.dll & mplayer.dll
ICL9:ff_kerneldeint.dll,ff_liba52.dll,ff_libdts.dll,ff_libfaad2.dll,ff_libmad.dll,ff_realaac.dll
ff_samplerate.dll,ff_theora.dll,ff_tremor.dll,ff_unrar.dll,ff_vfw.dll,ff_wmv9.dll
ff_x264.dll,ffavisynth.dll,flt_ffdshow.dll,libmpeg2_ff.dll,tomsmocomp_ff.dll
mkv bug is fixed.
http://rapidshare.de/files/21676210/ffdshow-20060527.rar.html
http://www.mytempdir.com/699611
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3572sf

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 12:45
hi videomixer9,

I'm testing your build ffdshow-20060526-rev2546. As far as I can tell the video part works fine but the audio_aac_decoder is somewhat messed up...

I'm playing apple's ICE AGE2 trailer (HD 720p) (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/ice_age_2/trailers.html) - it has 5.1 aac audio. I use ffdshow for direct aac -> AC3 conversion. With milans latest build (http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow) I have no problems with the stream and I can hear the sound. With your build I only have a linear stutter... any ideas??

shon3i
29th May 2006, 12:49
@drevil_xxl Thanks

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 12:59
sorry, but the same happens with drevil_xxl's build... btw, no matter if I change from libfaad2 to realaac or vice versa...

EDIT: that's the way (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=686122&postcount=6) I do the aac -> ac3 conversion...

cc979
29th May 2006, 17:55
hi videomixer9,

I'm testing your build ffdshow-20060526-rev2546. As far as I can tell the video part works fine but the audio_aac_decoder is somewhat messed up...

I'm playing apple's ICE AGE2 trailer (HD 720p) (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/ice_age_2/trailers.html) - it has 5.1 aac audio. I use ffdshow for direct aac -> AC3 conversion. With milans latest build (http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow) I have no problems with the stream and I can hear the sound. With your build I only have a linear stutter... any ideas??

i've just tried hd-720p version with mpc (using mpc's internal aac - unticked downmix to stereo) no problems here ... you did rename it to .mp4

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 18:07
... you did rename it to .mp4

no, I didn't...

(using mpc's internal aac - unticked downmix to stereo)

hmm, but using mpc internal aac decoder isn't really ffdshow related ;-)

SeeMoreDigital
29th May 2006, 18:33
hi videomixer9,

I'm testing your build ffdshow-20060526-rev2546. As far as I can tell the video part works fine but the audio_aac_decoder is somewhat messed up... Transcoding 6Ch AAC to 6Ch AC3 using FFdshow's own filters seems to be working fine here!

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 18:53
strange, not for me... I assume you've tested ffdshow-20060526-rev2546 (http://bittekeinspam.googlepages.com/)

if I uninstall this build and reinstall milan's latest (http://ffdshow.sourceforge.net/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Getting+ffdshow) then transcoding works fine but as mentioned not with videomixer9's one/ or drevil_xxl's latest...

shon3i
29th May 2006, 18:54
Transcoding 6Ch AAC to 6Ch AC3 using FFdshow's own filters seems to be working fine here!
Wait a second how you encode audio with ffdshow

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 18:59
look 5 posts above

shon3i
29th May 2006, 19:14
look 5 posts above
OK i realize that but how you encode in ffdshow, or ffdshow is only to decode aac, and i think then why you not just use FAAD to decode it to wav or stdout, and use ffmpeg to encode to ac3, or use simply BeHappy

SeeMoreDigital
29th May 2006, 19:20
Wait a second how you encode audio with ffdshowWe are not "encoding" we are "transcoding".

strange, not for me... I assume you've tested ffdshow-20060526-rev2546 (http://bittekeinspam.googlepages.com/)Yep... it's working for me.

Cheers

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 19:26
OK i realize that but how you encode in ffdshow
there is a difference between encoding and transcoding...

shon3i
29th May 2006, 19:35
there is a difference between encoding and transcoding...
Oh yes my mistake.

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 20:15
Yep... it's working for me.Cheers

strange... transcoding 6ch aac to 6ch ac3 won't work for me unless I use milans latest build.

too bad, i'd love to keep up to date with ffdshow dev

shon3i
29th May 2006, 21:11
Did you maybe have AC3 Filter or similar filter, because he can disturb qualty because AC3 filter connected with pin which came from ffdshow decoder

Source(AAC)->FFDSHOW(AAC->WAV)->AC3Filter(or some other filter)(WAV)->Encoder

sillKotscha
29th May 2006, 21:20
shon3i,

there is no encoding process! nor a wav conversion...

ffdshow is used for pure (realtime) aac->ac3 transcoding. The fact is that it works very well with latest "offical" build by milan but it doesn't work with the above mentioned ones.

and no, I have not ac3filter installed.

I'm a bit lost 'cause for smd it is working and expect for the fact that I uninstall previous build and replace it by latest build I change nothing else... of course I change it back to the one that works for me ;-)

foxyshadis
30th May 2006, 02:08
If you guys have different CPUs it could be that just one of the codepaths is broken.

Isochroma
30th May 2006, 04:04
Something strange I noticed about VMR's latest build - when configuring the video decoder after clicking the "VFW codec configuration" icon on the start menu, if the Decoder tab is clicked, an entry on the Codecs item appears: "WMV3/9".

However, if the "Video Decoder configuration" icon is clicked, this format doesn't show up in the Codecs list.

clsid
30th May 2006, 11:36
Decoding through VFW is not the same as decoding through DirectShow.

Isochroma
30th May 2006, 17:19
So you are saying that if I hadn't installed the WM9 VCM codec, that ffdshow could allow me to load WM9 AVIs directly in vdub?