Service Pack 2 Downloads on April 12

[Doom9]

I think that's the component that drives installation of msi packages.

[Shinigami-Sama]

11:41pm and not even an update alert...

[Doom9]

it should be April 13th even in Redmond by now.. seems my 3am automatic update didn't make the deadline.. I have 0% downloaded on one machine, and the other machine didn't do anything because I wasn't logged in. Going to windowsupdate, I am told I should install SP2 on my desktop machine, but on my notebook there's no mention yet. I set an auto-update for the next full hour to see what happens then.

[Audionut]

Why bother disabling thing's like security centre when you can extract it out of windows before being installed.

That and a great many other things can be removed from the windows installation with this great program.

Nlite (http://nuhi.msfn.org/download.html)

[Doom9]

now it's there on the notebook as well but no automatic install so far (I guess the time you set only applies "starting from tomorrow"). Or perhaps our IT did something evil to block auto-updates? I didn't even get a notification of patches that are available today (I did get that at home).

[Arachnotron]

now it's there on the notebook as well but no automatic install so far (I guess the time you set only applies "starting from tomorrow"). Or perhaps our IT did something evil to block auto-updates? I didn't even get a notification of patches that are available today (I did get that at home). The auto-update settings can be found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328010/EN-US/
They can be overridden using a central policy. If there is a WUserver key defined, your IT department is running it's own SUS server instead of using the MS windowsupdate site directly.

The ScheduledInstallTime, ScheduledInstallDate and RescheduleWaitTime will tell you when the stuff will be installed.

[em64t]

I have set my setting on "notify" and in the auto update pop up there is no word on SP2. :-)

[DigitAl56K]

I think it will precache the whole service pack before asking if you want to install it. You also need to allow svchost.exe outgoing tcp on ports 80 and 443 so that the update service can talk to the Microsoft servers.

[Shinigami-Sama]

heh
all ports open no sp2 :-D
and its 12:44pm april 13th ;0 havent even had an updat notify yet and it is on and everything but I guess I get hte scrapes seeing as how I'm gmt-8 or my isp may have blocked it but I don't think so..

[niamh]

Well well.... I went and had a look at windows update, and it won't let me even access it anymore (all I want to do is see what's there), because automatic updates is disabled :rolleyes: (follows a guide on how to turn the required feature to "automatic")
These people are behaving worse than I thought they would dare. I should think that soon they will remove the option to turn it off altogether.

[Shinigami-Sama]

well I got a couple normal updates today and thats it..

[Doom9]

I still haven't got any notification on my notebook so far. I guess after having downloaded the regular patches on Wednesday there's a certain period where no check for new software is made. Or for some reason, automatic patching, even though activated by the user, has been overriden by some setting (since there's only one patch day per month I don't really recall how it has been in the past).

[Inventive Software]

I have friends and family who have Windows XP, who have all installed SP2, some have had major problems, surprisingly it's the desktop users, and others have no problems whatsoever. I don't use XP personally, so I can't comment on my experiences, but I think that Microsoft changed some of the fundamental coding in the kernal that may have caused some problems with drivers that did work and now don't.

Service Packs should only contain the security patches. They should only be the cumulative security patches rolled into one package. They should not be messing with the kernal, and if they did, they should mention it.

[Doom9]

Microsoft has made a lot of documentation on the SP2 changes available for everyone a long time before the service pack was even released. Not being ready in August, and certainly not being ready now is a sad excuse and you should consider changing software if you are affected by any of the changes. It's been said before, Microsoft has consistently been bending over backwards to be downward compatible, but it's that bending backwards that causes many of the problems we still have with computers.. there's a lot of code in Windows that most people don't even need but that still has to be maintained so that 20 year old software still works. Do you really need to play those games that'll cause problems? There's usually at least one sequel so why not play that? For companies it's a bit more complex, but they've had like a 16 month headstart to read all the documentation Microsoft provided in advance, and to figure out which applications might be affacted and make the necessary changes. If that wasn't done, that's negligence. So your boss won't authorize the time/funds? Give it to him in writing that once SP2 is installed, application X and Y will break and make sure you have some kind of proof that he's read it.. that way if they upgrade and you have people with red heads entering your office, you have your back covered.

If you switch platforms and go to Linux for instance, you'll have to deal with API changes a lot more frequently. There's a new kernel every couple of weeks, and that means recompiling a lot of modules. And if you have to rely on binary-only drivers, it means you cannot upgrade until the card maker provides a new binary.. and with all the dependencies between packages, changing one can force you to undergo a major upgrade.

I have friends and family who have Windows XP, who have all installed SP2That's where the problem starts.. upgrading is dangerous, and 99% of the PCs out there are seriously messed up.. you'd see the number of problems go back significantly if those people did a proper setup from scratch. I figure one of the reasons why Linux runs stable versus Windows is that people using it really know what they're doing, whereas the majority of Windows users out there is just clueless.

[Shinigami-Sama]

five days overdue it finally wanted to me to install sp2 needless to say what I chose