VobBlanker 2.0.0.2 released [Archive] - Page 4

jsoto

14th June 2005, 23:01

@blutach,
thanks for answering the users questions

@CoNS
.. about IfoUpdate vs. VobBlanker's Replace PGC function? I'm not an expert in IFOUpdate, I used it in the ast but not now... IIRC, when you have more than one PGC in the VOB you have to use "Adjusted Cells mode"
BTW, I can add the option to copy the sub color palete from the replacing PGC. Not difficul, but in any case as an option, because replace feature can be used to replace the PGC with a new one created by IFOEdit/Muxman remuxing the original subs/audio with a re-encoded video/audio

About mock strip differences between VobBlanker and IFOedit, you have already found the answer in
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=667403#post667403

jsoto

OT: No many girls here in doom9.... Why? .. Are they not really interested in this kind of things?

jeanl

14th June 2005, 23:05

OT: No many girls here in doom9.... Why? .. Are they not really interested in this kind of things?
what do you mean? Are you discounting the three of us, sweetness blutach and me? :D
jeanl

Eandtc

15th June 2005, 02:21

"OT: No many girls here in doom9.... Why? .. Are they not really interested in this kind of things?"

They don't need. They smile at the geek to get him to fix their DVD, and then turn around and marry the football player anyways. :p

blutach

15th June 2005, 05:36

LMAO Eandtc http://img116.exs.cx/img116/1231/z7shysterical.gif

Regards

spyhawk

15th June 2005, 06:47

Have you seen Beauty and the Geek reality show where the beauty teach the geek social skills and the geek teach the beauty intellectual skills? These hard-core geeks with a high IQ and SAT score of 1600+ have never even touch a girl's hand, let alone a date. I laughed when one of the beauty said her IQ is 300 and can't even pass 5th grade spelling, and the geek used his knuckles to massage the beauty. Beauty & geek are paired together in 6 pairs. Final pair wins $250,000. ok, enough chit chat. :D

blutach

15th June 2005, 07:02

Well at least one pair of them can't be that stupid - $250,000 sounds good 2 me :)

Regards

CoNS

15th June 2005, 08:23

BTW, I can add the option to copy the sub color palete from the replacing PGC. Not difficult, but in any case as an option, because replace feature can be used to replace the PGC with a new one created by IFOEdit/Muxman remuxing the original subs/audio with a re-encoded video/audioAn option for this (default off) would be perfect...

Also, in order for the first option to make sense, could you add an option for copying the subtitle (and audio?) stream attributes, too, from the replacement PGC into the old DVD structure? (like the "Copy audio and subpicture tables" option in IfoUpdate, see this screenshot (http://www.videohelp.com/forum/images/guides/219535/imagine19new.png))

jinjin_jp

16th June 2005, 12:29

1. Blank 3/1 in PGC2, not PGC 1 - this gives you a new VCID 10/1
2. In IfoEdit or PgcEdit change PGC1 3/1 to be 10/1 and in PGC2 change 10/1 to 3/1 (swap them over).
3. Run the lot through VobBlanker again to correct the pointers (blank nothing, just do process - this is the same as mock stripping). This should also correct the times of the PGCs, but if it doesn't open each PGC in the PGC Editor of PgcEdit and answer yes when PgcEdit warns you the times are not right. Save and you are finished.
I posted to introduce your method in BBS of Japan.
And I received the suggestion modifying you method.
Both step 1 and 2 can be processsd more simply by the function of PgcEdit 'create a new blank VOB Cell'.
It is need only to set about the cell even though it is reused at after PGC.
Only selected cell becomes to blank cell (new V/C-ID), and other reused cells remain originally.
There is no change to need step 3.

Sajan

22nd June 2005, 15:13

@jsoto
1. I attach the printscreen with runned away buttons. It occurs when I try to resize window or after minimize/restore sequence.
2. Can you add feature to replace audio/subtitles (as it done with cells)?
3. How about to merge AddChapter with VobBlanker?
4. Can you add feature to cut cells not with slider [sector(lba)] that skip intermediate means, but by frame (maybe with slider at bottom)?
5. When audio duration more then video and I cut from last possible with slider sector (lba) to [Last], VB cuts about 1 sec of video and tail of audio that haven't video. Can I cut only redundant audio and keep full video?

jsoto

23rd June 2005, 00:49

1. I attach the printscreen with runned away buttons. It occurs when I try to resize window or after minimize/restore sequence.Strange... Seems there is a bug in the resizing procedure, but I'm unable to reproduce the problem...
2. Can you add feature to replace audio/subtitles (as it done with cells)?No, this feature is quite similar to do a muxer and its not easy.
3. How about to merge AddChapter with VobBlanker?Well, I had in plan to split a cell in two parts, but I'm really busy lately..
4. Can you add feature to cut cells not with slider [sector(lba)] that skip intermediate means, but by frame (maybe with slider at bottom)?VobBlanker is able to cut VOBU by VOBU, that means, in an I-Frame, but not in a B or P frame, in the middle of a GOP. (very difficult to do, BTW)
5. When audio duration more then video and I cut from last possible with slider sector (lba) to [Last], VB cuts about 1 sec of video and tail of audio that haven't video. Can I cut only redundant audio and keep full video?Not sure if it already does it...After drag the slider, use Next and Prev buttons to go to the last VOBU and be sure to be there before set the ending mark.

jsoto

mpucoder

23rd June 2005, 02:16

Strange... Seems there is a bug in the resizing procedure, but I'm unable to reproduce the problem...
Go to advanced settings for the display and choose "large fonts" to see the problem (MuxMan prior to 0.16 has the same problem). GetDialogBaseUnits() will help the scaling.

blutach

23rd June 2005, 13:48

I posted to introduce your method in BBS of Japan.
And I received the suggestion modifying you method.
Both step 1 and 2 can be processsd more simply by the function of PgcEdit 'create a new blank VOB Cell'.
It is need only to set about the cell even though it is reused at after PGC.
Only selected cell becomes to blank cell (new V/C-ID), and other reused cells remain originally.
There is no change to need step 3.Thank you jinjin_jp. I have been away so, sorry for not answering you sooner.

Regards

jinjin_jp

23rd June 2005, 15:53

@blutach
Thanks for reply.

Sajan

23rd June 2005, 18:51

Not sure if it already does it...After drag the slider, use Next and Prev buttons to go to the last VOBU and be sure to be there before set the ending mark.
@jsoto Yes, I did. But if last VOBU contains last GOP plus all redundant audio (without video)... This means that I can't cut audio and leave video because between I-frame of last GOP and begin of audio tail (w/o video) there is no else any I-frames... Or I mistake?

jsoto

23rd June 2005, 19:54

Go to advanced settings for the display and choose "large fonts" to see the problem (MuxMan prior to 0.16 has the same problem). GetDialogBaseUnits() will help the scaling. Thanks for the tip, but seems this is not the problem here...In fact, I've one computer with large fonts and the other with small ones. I can't reproduce the problem.

@jsoto Yes, I did. But if last VOBU contains last GOP plus all redundant audio (without video)... This means that I can't cut audio and leave video because between I-frame of last GOP and begin of audio tail (w/o video) there is no else any I-frames... Or I mistake? AFAIK, a VOBU (with or w/o audio) has to be shorter than 1.4 secs, so the trailing audio has to be splitted in several VOBUs. I didn't tried, but I think you can cut at the last VOBU with video (not "Last", but mark the last LBA number) and VB will do the job.
jsoto

Hoa Le

24th June 2005, 17:40

I used VobBlanker to remove ("blank") some unwanted ads in a DVD movie, but Vobblanker lets me go beyond the last chapter (to an advertized clip for example). Normally, the original DVD movie blanks out the forward ">" when the last chapter is reached, but the version produced with Vobblanker does not (which allows me to go to the non-existing "next chapter").

jsoto

24th June 2005, 20:33

May be you are removing the PUOPs?

Uncheck "Remove PUOPs in VOBs" and uncheck "Remove PUOPs in IFOs"

jsoto

r0lZ

24th June 2005, 22:30

@Hoa Le: This behaviour may be caused by the NextPGCN pointer to itself option.

If the last chapter of your movie has a cell command to return to the menu, and you blanked the DVD with the NextPGCN option ON, if you press the next chapter button, you will execute the post commands instead of the cell command, and that may lead to the ads.

Sajan

25th June 2005, 04:17

AFAIK, a VOBU (with or w/o audio) has to be shorter than 1.4 secs, so the trailing audio has to be splitted in several VOBUs. I didn't tried, but I think you can cut at the last VOBU with video (not "Last", but mark the last LBA number) and VB will do the job.
jsoto
When I cut at the last VOBU with video (mark the last LBA number) VB cuts about 0.5 sec of video. So I should leave about 10 sec of trailing audio or lose 0.5 sec of video.

jsoto

27th June 2005, 00:46

So I should leave about 10 sec of trailing audio or lose 0.5 sec of video. I see....not easy to change it , sorry.
jsoto

LosKyllos

27th June 2005, 08:43

I have a strange problem with VobBlanker (any version) :(

When I press the 'Prev/Cut' or the 'Preview' button, the preview-window pops up, but the button disappears.

I can get it back when I minimize VobBlanker, but it is still annoying.

I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1

Please help me :)

jsoto

27th June 2005, 22:19

I knew this problem, someone has already reported it. But I'm completely lost... I do not know what is the reason.. AFAIK, the most of the users do not experience the problem...
Just curious, could you describe your HW?
jsoto

LosKyllos

28th June 2005, 01:00

It's is pretty weird, because I have not always had this problem. That makes me think this has something to do with new drivers/software or something.

I have an AMD64 CPU on a nForce3 board...One of my friends with a P4 does not have this problem. Maybe that is a part of the problem.

Another thing...The button only disappears when I press it the 2nd time...The first time there is no problem (maybe that could help you find the problem)

This problem is very annoying, because VobBlanker is a GREAT tool, which I use a lot.

My computer:
AMD Athlon64 3200+, ASUS K8N mainboard, GeForce4 ti4400.
WindowsXP Pro Danish Version with Service Pack 1.

jsoto

28th June 2005, 07:37

Well, I was thinking on this problem and the only thing I can imagine is any kind of problem with MFC42.dll

Up to now, I was linking statically the MFC42.dll distributed with VisualC, but this is an old one. So I've built a new exe linking dynamically MFC42.dll. That means, the exe will use the library stored in your system, typically in C:\WINDOSW\SYSTEM32

Please check this beta, and, if works, let me know the exact version of MFC42 you have.

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/temp/VobBlanker_2003b2_exe.zip

jsoto

LosKyllos

28th June 2005, 09:25

this beta works :)

How do I find out the version of my MFC42?

geoffman

28th June 2005, 10:00

locate MFC42.dll, right click on it, select properties and then the version tab.

LosKyllos

28th June 2005, 10:15

The version is 6.00.8665.0 :)

r0lZ

28th June 2005, 15:42

So I've built a new exe linking dynamically MFC42.dll. That means, the exe will use the library stored in your system, typically in C:\WINDOSW\SYSTEM32 Josto, don't forget that this exe will not work under Linux+Wine. Maybe you have to warn the user if the lib is not found. MFC42 can be easily downloaded from the net, and is also included in the PgcEdit distrib.

jsoto

28th June 2005, 22:38

this beta works :)Good!
The version is 6.00.8665.0:)Not so good. Seems it it the same I was linking with. Well, not absolutely sure, the version I have installed is 6.2.4131, but the one distributed with VisualC 6 is 6.0.8665
Josto, don't forget that this exe will not work under Linux+Wine. Don't worry, I know. I can distribute the library or offer two different downloads: statically linked (self-contained) and dynamically linked (less size, less download time)

jsoto

lovelegend

30th June 2005, 19:16

Two suggestions:
1) If I pressed the PROCESS and found that I did something wrong and pressed ABORT to terminate the program, the PROCESS button would remain inactivated, so that I couldn't make a little changes and start the process again (I must quit the program and restart it and set everything all over again)... I hope you could reactivate the PROCESS after abortion...
P.S. Same thing for finishing a process, hope you could reactivate the PROCESS button when the process is finished, so that it won't need to be restarted in order to process twice or more times...

2) For example for a 20-chapter-DVD, I need to blank chapter 11-20 and check the Final filesize, and then reverse the blanking selection (i.e., keep back chapter 11-20 and blank chapter 1-10) in order to make sure both discs would not exceed 4477MB... Therefore, it will be much more convenient if you can add a button on the Cell List Window which can reverse the blanking selection...

2COOL

30th June 2005, 19:26

2) For example for a 20-chapter-DVD, I need to blank chapter 11-20 and check the Final filesize, and then reverse the blanking selection (i.e., keep back chapter 11-20 and blank chapter 1-10) in order to make sure both discs would not exceed 4477MB... Therefore, it will be much more convenient if you can add a button on the Cell List Window which can reverse the blanking selection... This would be good to have in most ways but what I used to do was open up a second VobBlanker session along side the first and manually do my reverse selections.

zacoz

1st July 2005, 10:13

1) If I pressed the PROCESS and found that I did something wrong and pressed ABORT to terminate the program, the PROCESS button would remain inactivated, so that I couldn't make a little changes and start the process again (I must quit the program and restart it and set everything all over again)... I hope you could reactivate the PROCESS after abortion...A solution for you lovelegend would be to utilise the "Save Project as" function prior to pressing process. If you then find you do wish to abort, then you simply use "Open Project" which will reopen the disc at the point you saved including the selection of what to blank. Just make your minimal changes and process. Using "Save Project as" is a good habit to get into, particularly if you are doing full DVD's and blanking bits all over the place.
P.S. Same thing for finishing a process, hope you could reactivate the PROCESS button when the process is finished, so that it won't need to be restarted in order to process twice or more times...If you are talking about reprocessing the original unblanked disc again, then the above would also do. If talking about further processing of the first blanking run output then it's just a simple matter of opening or re-opening the dvd (depending on whether you processed to a separate directory or used the input folder. Either one takes almost no time.

r0lZ

1st July 2005, 10:35

Jsoto, to simplify the procedure explained by zacoz, maybe you could always save the project in a default INI file somewhere, when the Process button is clicked, and add a Reopen Last Project menu item. This way, if something went wrong, the user will be able to reload the same project, and remember the settings. Handy also to do the two processings of a DVD split.

lovelegend

6th July 2005, 18:46

If you are talking about reprocessing the original unblanked disc again, then the above would also do. If talking about further processing of the first blanking run output then it's just a simple matter of opening or re-opening the dvd (depending on whether you processed to a separate directory or used the input folder. Either one takes almost no time.
I was talking about when we're splitting a DVD, we always need to blank out some chapters and check the final size of Disc 1, and then reverse the keeping/blanking selections to check the final size of Disc 2, so it would be easier if we could have a "reverse keeping/blanking selections" button.

Found another problem -- when I blanked out some cells and played the processed DVD file in WinDVD 6, I found that the time seek slider was disable (it became half transparent). I did search the forum but I found no discussion about this issue (maybe the keywords I used are not right).
P.S. I never use WinDVD, but saw an article saying that WinDVD is picky on DVD structure, that's why I downloaded it and tested it with DVD file processed by VobBlanker

r0lZ

6th July 2005, 19:02

P.S. I never use WinDVD, but saw an article saying that WinDVD is picky on DVD structure, that's why I downloaded it and tested it with DVD file processed by VobBlankerIMHO, that's not true at all. WinDVD and PowerDVD are equal on this point: very lax!
The best software player to check the compatibility of a DVD is probably the IfoEdit's player, followed by Nero ShowTime. But you should always test on a good standalone.

lovelegend

6th July 2005, 20:54

IMHO, that's not true at all. WinDVD and PowerDVD are equal on this point: very lax!
The best software player to check the compatibility of a DVD is probably the IfoEdit's player, followed by Nero ShowTime. But you should always test on a good standalone.

But that's the case when I played it on WinDVD:

Original file:
http://hmr9dkc6xgks.hp.infoseek.co.jp/windvd_b4.png

File processed by VobBlanker Only:
http://hmr9dkc6xgks.hp.infoseek.co.jp/windvd_after.png

You can see the seek time slider's been disabled.

I just tried another DVD file (which has been demuxed, processed by DVD Maestro for adding subtitle stream, and then replaced the original PGC by VobBlanker) on WinDVD, it had the seek time slider but there's something wrong (the slider works only on the first half, when I drag to the slider to more than half time, it seems it couldn't find the time and it just pauses there).

P.S. But all files have no problem playing on PowerDVD (the seek bar works fine). I also tried the DVD Play on IfoEdit, but it doesn't have seek bar. :P

r0lZ

6th July 2005, 20:59

Most of the time, seek bar problems are caused by bad or missing datas in the VOBU address table, or in the VOBs. You should try a mock strip (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84097).

lovelegend

6th July 2005, 22:23

jeanl

6th July 2005, 23:10

Did you read this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95466)? It's about exactly the same problem... Maybe you'll find your answer there...
jeanl

lovelegend

6th July 2005, 23:46

Did you read this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=95466)? It's about exactly the same problem... Maybe you'll find your answer there...
jeanl
Thanks for your help, but it's not the same, he got no time seeking for every player but mine plays fine in any player but WinDVD... :D

Anyway, I still used IfoEdit to check, the time map table is there (as it should be since I can seek in PowerDVD), I also checked the UPO's and there is no prohibition there.

jeanl

6th July 2005, 23:49

2COOL

6th July 2005, 23:56

I know that someone wrote an app to do that, but I don't remember the name...You mean this? vobPUO (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86318)

jeanl

6th July 2005, 23:57

Yes, you beat me to it! I just found that thread! You devil! ;)
jeanl

doomer2

7th July 2005, 00:17

lovelegend

7th July 2005, 00:25

It's possible that you have PUOs in the VOB files. They're harder to find... It could be that WinDVD honors these PUOs, while PowerDVD does not. I'm not sure how you can remove them after the fact (it's easy when you rip). I know that someone wrote an app to do that, but I don't remember the name...
jeanl
um... VobBlanker has an option to remove UPO's in VOB, isn't it? But anyway, I tried that program but also no luck... LOL

I think I'm not the only one who got this problem with WinDVD (as I said I tried it because I saw some discussion about time slider of WinDVD), but it seems that no one did discuss about it.... or no one likes to use WinDVD here? :P

jeanl

7th July 2005, 00:46

[Transplanted thread from PgcEdit]

I tried using vobblanker to replace a title like you suggested jeanl, but the replacement title had a different number of cells even though it had the right number of chapters, and I got these messages:

Cells to be replaced =22.
Cells in replacing VOB=37.
WARNING: Number of cells higher in replacing title. Extending last cell.

After it completed, I went and looked, and like I suspected, the chapters were all screwed up because it kept the 1 cell/chapter of the original vobs and "squished" all of the extra cells in the replacement vobs into the last chapter, so it contained half of the title instead of having the right chapter points.

Is there a better way to do this that will keep the chapter points and add/remap the cells properly?
Thanks.
mmm, it would be easy to correct the chapters in PgcEdit after the fact, that might be your fastest route. How did you manage to add more cells to the VOB? Does the modified VOB have more chapters, or exaclty the same number, but more cells? I'm not sure how the problem can be avoided in the first place, because I don't think vobblanker reads the replacement IFO to figure out where chapter points should be (but maybe I'm wrong here).
Note that you would have the same problem if you replaced the vob and did a mock strip. Your chapters would be screwed up because you don't have the same number of cells. This seems to call for manual adjustments...

jeanl

jeanl

7th July 2005, 00:50

um... VobBlanker has an option to remove UPO's in VOB, isn't it? But anyway, I tried that program but also no luck... LOL

I forgot about that. That's right. You can use vobblanker for that.

I think I'm not the only one who got this problem with WinDVD (as I said I tried it because I saw some discussion about time slider of WinDVD), but it seems that no one did discuss about it.... or no one likes to use WinDVD here? :P
not me (it does not even work on my system - no video, so I gave up on it)... But I think jsoto uses it to tests his output DVDs pretty systematically... I use PowerDVD and mediaplayerclassic (which I also found to be quite strict, much more so that PowerDVD, probably because it's also based on direct-show)...
jeanl

lovelegend

7th July 2005, 03:51

I just played around with the IFO's and WinDVD and I found the problem. It is the Previous/Next PGCN Links!!! Whenever the Previous or Next PGCN Links field is changed to non-zero number, the time slider of WinDVD will be disabled (When I changed the Pre/Next PGCN Links to zero, the slider showed up).

However, I know that Pre/Next PGCN Links are useful for PowerDVD to jump to next Title Set by pressing NEXT, so it really depends on which player you're using.

P.S. But the time seek function of WinDVD is not quite good, sometimes you slide to a point and the screen just pauses there, you need to move back and forth to make it work...

mpucoder

7th July 2005, 04:06

Whenever the Previous or Next PGCN Links field is changed to non-zero number, the time slider of WinDVD will be disabled (When I changed the Pre/Next PGCN Links to zero, the slider showed up).
Could you try changing the Next PGCN link to point to itself? If the Next PGCN points to another PGC that means the PGC is not one-sequential, and should not have a time map (so WinDVD's action makes sense).

lovelegend

7th July 2005, 04:14

Could you try changing the Next PGCN link to point to itself? If the Next PGCN points to another PGC that means the PGC is not one-sequential, and should not have a time map (so WinDVD's action makes sense).
Recent release of VobBlanker fills the Previous and Next PGCN links to point to itself, and I got the problem with the files processed by VobBlanker only. That's why I tried changing the IFO and got this result.

For a 1-PGC Title Set, after being processed by VobBlanker, the Pre/Next PGCN Links will be filled with 1 (points to itself), I tried Pre/Next = 0/1 or 1/0 but they didn't work, only 0/0 makes the slider showing up...