Stutter / freeze problems, DVD-RB 0.68 & above

[nivremous]

By the way... I hope nobody will get upset but...

I backed up Neon Genesis Evangelion 7 Platinum again but this time with DVD Shrink half an hour after I discovered the stuttering DVD Rebuilder output file... and... I didn't see any stuttering on the output files and DVD disc of DVD Shrink.

Uhm... I was just thinking that if the problem is an erroneous DVD Title or my computer... I... I thought that DVD Shrink should result the same issue but... I didn't get any.

Anyway, I am currently testing Neon Genesis Evangelion 7 Platinum again with DVD Rebuilder but this time with the recommended settings by jdobbs. Hopefully it would be finished in the next... uhm... the next 320 minutes.

I'll go to bed now. So I hope to see some results when I wake up. Jdobbs I'll send you the zipped file along with the ones I'm testing now. I'll be busy after this weekend. I have a seminar to go to in the weekdays.

Cheers!

[jdobbs]

Nope -- you can't make that assumption. K-19 was the same way. The way that shrink works, it leaves almost everything intact. It just reads, changes coefficients, motion vectors etc... and writes. Any bad content just gets passed through. That's why its so fast -- but it's also why it can't handle anything more than slight reductions. DVD Rebuilder, on the other hand, has to understand what is in the source, work on it, and reauthor it completely. You need consistent source content in order to do that.

As I said before -- I'll help with any problem with DVD-RB -- but I'm not even close to convinced your problem has anything to do with DVD-RB. There are lots of variables involved -- and when a problem only happens to one person, on one computer, logic dictates that you first determine what is unique about that situation. Right now the only unique aspect is your computer (or the disc... but it seems to occur on two -- although they are in the same series)...

Have you tried any other discs? If the problem is the disc, running it over-and-over isn't going to change that. And please don't reference anything done with v1.04 -- there have been lots of fixes since then -- and there was a cracked release of that version that had lots of problems. I can't start chasing rabbits down holes...

[Carpo]

@nivremous

try using a different encoder - say HC, if the stuttering doesnt happen then we will have found the problem - think i remeber reading somewhere else on here that cce sometimes is at the heart of the problem, as good as it may be its not perfect ;)

Also another thing to look at - that is if your viewing the dvds on your pc is what player you are using - i have found that WinDVD and PowerDVD has playback issues sometimes (stuttering) where as VLC or Mediaplayer Classic do not, but if its a standalone player your using sort of renders the last part of my post mute ;)

[blutach]

@nivremous - you are observing this stuttering how? By watching a written DVD? Or off a software media player? If the latter, which player? Might be useful to just do a little cut of where the movie stutters and post it for all to see (e.g on yousendit.com or agigforfree.com).

Also, at 43%, the bitrate is probably quite low (you haven't shown us the prepare stage). IMHO, CCE is not all that good at very low BR stuff. As Carpo says, try a different encoder or matrix. It seems you are flogging a dead horse.

@erdoke - re 43%/55%. I thought this too, but if his menus are intact (no compression) then the movie must be compressed further than 55%. Having said that, 43% sounds like a lot.

Regards