MP4 files collection (Test CD) for testing "NeroDigital" players + results

[telemachus]

Hello there,
these results show the Yamada is FAR more versatile than the Siemssen, only two files play on the siemssen and not on the yamada, asp-1b-pb_divx_mp4ui.mp4 and asp-3b_xvid_mp4ui.mp4. There are many, many that play on the yamada and not on the siemssen.

AUDIO / MPEG-1 / MP2:
mp2_2lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp2_2lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE


AUDIO / MPEG-1 / MP3:
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE

AUDIO / MPEG4:
aac-he_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
aac-he_vbr-nero_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
aac-he_vbr-nero_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE

AUDIO / MPEG4 / MULTICHANNEL:
aac-lc-5.1_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 DID NOT TEST PROPERLY but heard Lf Rf ... LFE from stereo system

SPECIAL / PICTURES:
jpg_mp4box.mp4 - no playback
png_mp4box.mp4 - no playback

SPECIAL / PRIVATE:
theora_mp4box.mp4 - "cannot play this file"
vorbis_mp4box.mp4 - "cannot play this file"
alac_itunes.m4a - not shown in menu

SPECIAL / SUBTITLES:
timedtext_mp4box.mp4 - no sub
vobsub_sp-3ivx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
vobsub_sp-3ivx_mp4ui.mp4 - WORKS FINE

SPECIAL / SYSTEMS:
kangaroo.mp4 - audio plays, no video

SPECIAL / XCD:
sp_3ivx_mp4box.mp4.dat - no playback

VIDEO:
asp-adapt_nero_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-custom_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-gmc-1wp_divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-gmc-3wp_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - image freeze on first frame
asp-mpeg_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-qpel_divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
sp_3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE


VIDEO / ANAMORPHIC:
sp-par-ntsc_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - plays video did not test properly as player has anamorphic setting
sp-par-ntsc_xvid_mp4ui.mp4 - plays video


VIDEO / AVC:
avc-base_nero.mp4 – NO play

VIDEO / B-FRAMES:
asp-1b-pb_divx_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-1b-pb_divx_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-1b-pb_divx_mp4ui.mp4 - no play
asp-3b_xvid_3ivx.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-3b_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - WORKS FINE
asp-3b_xvid_mp4ui.mp4 - no play

VIDEO / CHAPTERS:
chapters_sp-3ivx_3ivx.mp4 - can navigate < >
chapters_sp-3ivx_nero-64bitmdat.mp4 - can navigate < >

VIDEO / MPEG1-2:
mpeg1-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4box.mp4 – WORKS FINE
mpeg1-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4ui.mp4 – NO
mpeg2-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4box.mp4 – WORKS FINE
mpeg2-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4ui.mp4 – NO

[bond]

thx for the info :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Jeez.... that's amazing, fantastic, bloody brilliant :D

[bond]

SPECIAL / SYSTEMS:
kangaroo.mp4 - WORKS FINEdid you see the video?

[fuel__2001]

Hi bond

only valid for v1/2:
the Test CD is a burning image because it also includes a file stored in mode2form2 (xcd). it should be burnable in any of the big burning programs (eg nero)


Have download MP4_TestCD_v3.7z and have tried burning as an image and changing the file extension to iso and rar, what am i doing wrong thats stopping me from burning this file to disk?

Thanks

John

[telemachus]

did you see the video?


aah, no, just heard some funny sound effects, sorry, thought it was an audio file.

mark.

[bond]

Have download MP4_TestCD_v3.7z and have tried burning as an image and changing the file extension to iso and rar, what am i doing wrong thats stopping me from burning this file to disk?.7z is an archive like .zip (no, you can rename .7z to .zip)
unpack it with 7zip or newest versions of winrar handle it too iirc

aah, no, just heard some funny sound effects, sorry, thought it was an audio file.no, its a basic mpeg-4 systems animation stream. if you are interest in how it looks like try osmo4

[telemachus]

no, its a basic mpeg-4 systems animation stream. if you are interest in how it looks like try osmo4

keh?
osmo4?
sounds like a food colourant... what is it?

[bond]

systems player

[telemachus]

systems player


AKA computer?

[bond]

osmo4 is a software player that is able to play mpeg-4 systems content ;)

[telemachus]

ok kapish!

[SeeMoreDigital]

More "systems" capable software media players are required though ;)

[fuel__2001]

Just finished testing with MP4_TestCD_v3

Audio

Audio / Mpeg-1 / Mp1
mp1_mp4creator.mp4 - hear tone

Audio / Mpeg-1 / mp2
mp2_2lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
mp2_2lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine

Audio / Mpeg-1 / mp3
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine
mp3-cbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine
mp3-vbr_lame_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine

Audio / mpeg-2
aac-lc_vbr-faac_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine

Audio / mpeg-4
aac-he_expl1_vbr-nero_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine
aac-he_expl2_vbr-nero_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - no audio
aac-he_impl_vbr-nero_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine
aac-he_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
aac-he_vbr-nero_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - lags at start
aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine
aac-ps_vbr-winamp_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine

Audio / mpeg-4 / multiaudio
aac-lc_vbr-nero_x2_sp-nero_nero.mp4 - works fine

Audio / mpeg-4 / multichannel
aac-lc-5.1_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - hear all 6 channels,wrong speakers


Special
Special / Chapters
chapters_sp-3ivx_3ivx.mp4 - works fine
chapters_sp-3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine
chapters_sp-3ivx_nero-64bitmdat.mp4 - works fine

special / delay
delay_5sec_aac-qt_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - works fine

special / pictures
jpg_mp4box.mp4 - no playback
png_mp4box.mp4 - no playback

special / private
alac_itunes.m4a - not shown in menu

special / subtitles / timedtext
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-02-00.mp4 - no subs
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-03-00.mp4 - no subs
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-04-00.mp4 - no subs
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-05-00.mp4 - no subs
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-07-00.mp4 - no subs
advanced_P-3GPPtext-e-08-00.mp4 - no subs
timedtext_mp4box.mp4 - no subs

special / subtitles / vobsub
vobsub_sp-3ivx_mp4ui.mp4 - works fine

special / subtitles / vobsub / multisubs
vobsub_x2_sp-nero_nero.mp4 - works fine

special / systems
kangaroo.mp4 - audio plays / no video

video
video / mpeg1-2
mpeg1-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg1-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4ui.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg1-tmpg_vbr-B2_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg1-tmpg_vbr-B2_mp4creator.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg2-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg2-tmpg_cbr-noB_mp4ui.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg2-tmpg_vbr-B2_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
mpeg2-tmpg_vbr-B2_mp4creator.mp4 - video plays / no audio

video / mpeg-4 / asp
asp-adapt_nero_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-custom_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-gmc-1wp_divx_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-gmc-3wp_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - no play
asp-mpeg_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-qpel_divx_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
sp_3ivx_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio

video / mpeg-4 / asp / anamorphic
sp-par-ntsc_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
sp-par-ntsc_xvid_mp4ui.mp4 - no play

video / mpeg-4 / asp / b-frames
asp-1b-pb_divx_3ivx.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-1b-pb_divx_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-1b-pb_divx_mp4ui.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-3b_xvid_3ivx.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-3b_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio
asp-3b_xvid_mp4ui.mp4 - no play

video / mpeg-4 / asp / vfr
sp-vfr_xvid_mp4box.mp4 - video plays / no audio

video / mpeg-4 / avc
avc-base_b0_nero.mp4 - no play
avc-high_b3_arbitraryframeorder_x264.mp4 - no play
avc-main_b0_arbitraryframeorder_mainconcept_mp4box.mp4 - no play
avc-main_b3_x264.mp4 - no play

[SeeMoreDigital]

With the aid of fuel__2001 and telemachus observations, I guess that makes the Yamada DVX-6700 (with New Age v4 firmware).... the latest "must have" all-round player ;)

I gather the Yamada DVX-6700 runs on an MediaTek MT1389DE chip-set. Can either of you guys confirm?


Cheers

[bond]

aac-lc_cbr-qt_sp-divx_mp4box.mp4 - lags at startthis one is strange. for telemachus it worked fine
any more detailed findings on this one?

aac-lc-5.1_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - hear all 6 channels,wrong speakers thats also strange
have you tried other 5.1 aac files and checked if they are correct? are you sure your speakers are set up correctly?

[telemachus]

this one is strange. for telemachus it worked fine
any more detailed findings on this one?


hello bond and all,
yes, he is right, when you press play, the video starts immediately, and the audio lags about a second behind, but it catches up and by the end of the 10 (or so) second clip, AV are in sync.

I have not tested the 6 speaker thing, perhaps on the weekend.
Cheers,
Mark.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I have not tested the 6 speaker thing, perhaps on the weekend.As a cross reference you should try checking the outputs with 6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file (http://81.98.148.105/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/MPEG-4_with_6Ch_AC3_in_AVI.7z) too!


Cheers

[fuel__2001]

Hi

Been away for a few days so not been able to respond

aac-lc-5.1_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 - hear all 6 channels,wrong speakers

not very clear really what i was trying to say, i have also tested

6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file

I have been using the coaxial output from the yamada to my external 5.1 decoder, now the wire is not in very good shape and is liable to fall apart any moment, so im not sure if this is helping to give correct results.

With both files I do get sound from all speakers however this is what i hear from each speaker

LF - I aslo hear LS+LFE
RF - I also hear LS
LS - I also hear RF+LF+RS+LFE
RS - I also hear RF+LF+LS+LFE

@ Telemachus
AUDIO / MPEG4 / MULTICHANNEL:
aac-lc-5.1_vbr-nero_sp-divx_3ivx.mp4 DID NOT TEST PROPERLY but heard Lf Rf ... LFE from stereo system


Are you using coaxial output to an external decoder? If you are try changing the spdif output to manual and the other setiings to pcm you should then get all speakers working

[telemachus]

Hello guys,

I just tested my Yamada 6700 with the 6ch speaker mapping test file and here is what i did and found:

connected my stereo system to LF and RF and heard LF RF LFE
connected my stereo system to LS and RS and heard LS RS
connected my stereo system to center and SW and heard Center only.

What is SW ?

Mark

[SeeMoreDigital]

I presume (hope) you guys are remembering to use the Yamada's 6Ch "analogue" outputs, when testing the channel mapping of AAC files!


Cheers

[ricardo.santos]

What is SW ?

Subwoofer

[fuel__2001]

I presume (hope) you guys are remembering to use the Yamada's 6Ch "analogue" outputs, when testing the channel mapping of AAC files!


Cheers

Well was only messing with the latest moded firmware that couldnt play DTS i realised that i may have got something wrong with my results.

I have been using the coaxial output from the yamada to my external 5.1 decoder. I now think the external decoder has been my trouble all along, thanks SeeMoreDigital the penny has finally dropped, hehehe, my external decoder cannot decode AAC 5.1 stream via coaxial.

If i selected PCM from the players audio config I would hear this from speakers
LF - I aslo hear LS+LFE
RF - I also hear LS
LS - I also hear RF+LF+RS+LFE
RS - I also hear RF+LF+LS+LFE

If i selected RAW i would hear this from the speakers
LF
RF
LFE.

I think the yamada is only being used as a pass through for 5.1 AAC via coaxial.

Using 6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file I managed to get it to work because the player is passing the AC3 stream to my external decoder, which it can decode via coaxial so i hear the correct audio from the correct speaker.

So it seems its all about the audio speaker setup of the player.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Using 6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file I managed to get it to work because the player is passing the AC3 stream to my external decoder, which it can decode via coaxial so i hear the correct audio from the correct speaker.

So it seems its all about the audio speaker setup of the player.What channel mapping do you get when you play my, 6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file and listen to it via the 6Ch analogue outputs?


Cheers

[fuel__2001]

What channel mapping do you get when you play my, 6Ch AC3 "speaker mapping" test file and listen to it via the 6Ch analogue outputs?


Cheers

I cant help there as I dont have any speaker to connect directly to the player. At least your file works digitally via my external decoder. Thats what made me realise late last night about the AAC 5.1 not being mapped correctly.

[SeeMoreDigital]

I cant help there as I dont have any speaker to connect directly to the player. At least your file works digitally via my external decoder. Thats what made me realise late last night about the AAC 5.1 not being mapped correctly.Just to let you know.... It's impossible to determine if a 6Ch AAC stream is correctly mapped if you are connecting via SPDIF. The only way you can do this is via the analogue audio outputs ;)


Cheers

[dvbfreaky007]

Hi,
Can any one share mp4 standard specification document with me?
14496-Part 14 specification Document needed.

Or mp4 header info,

basically i want to analyze , how can i detect mp4 file format by looking its header information.