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kimi_mo
9th December 2004, 19:30
Hi,
i'm making a karaoke at the moment where the border
grows bigger on every sylobal that is sung then
shrinks back to size after it is sung. The problem
im having is on the last three sylobals the border
doesnt shrink back to normal size and it looks real
dumb.

The script is not wrong and other people have tried
and it woks fine for them :(, i was wondering if anyone
has had a simalar problem or knows what im doing wrong.
I tried .ssa and .ass format and am using vsfilter.dll
i dont know why its not working but its definitly not
to do with the code.

i would really appreciatte (sorry if i spelt that wrong)
if someone could help me out here.

thanks alot
:)

unmei
10th December 2004, 11:47
As it works for other people, the script is obviously fine and we will not have to discuss synthax or logical errors in the script.

Then what is left is to find out what is wrong with your copy of vsfilter.dll, or the host program you use to play the subs in.

Did you try different host programs to see whether it fails in all of them. For examply try playing with media player classic using AutoDVobsub (of course if MPCs built in filter renders them correctly that is also a hint). Try Avisynth with the textsub() filter and play that from different editors/players. Try, maybe even with different editors. As i read you can even use vsfilter or at least vobsub.dll as virtual dub filter (iirc you copy the dll into the VD plugin folder and change the extension to vdf - i never tried that tho).

If it doesn't play correctly in any of these situations, you might either have problematic settings in the VSfilter settings or have a version of vsfilter that exposes such a bug while the version your test persons used has not. Ask them what version of vsfilter they use and try the same one. Look at your vsfilter settings. Pre-buffering may produce problemswith effects (karaoke), also if you have any resolution doubling or special positioning enabled i'd try with these disabled.

ak_gamma
10th December 2004, 13:50
the problem with effects is usually cause of "prebuffer subpictures" oprion enabled in the misc DVobSub configure.
make it DISABLED and try again.
Also in VirtualDub when you add a filter with the subs selected - in output video - you should see everything displaying correct. So, it's one more thing to make sure everything is ok.
Good Luck.

kimi_mo
10th December 2004, 20:07
cool
thankyou both very much
for helping me ;)

i think it will be something wrong with my settings
then because i got the dl from someone that tested it
and it still didnt do anything.

i dont know how to change my settings though :S
where abouts?

thanks for the help

unmei
10th December 2004, 21:36
make DirectVobsub load for example in MPC by loading a video with soft subtitles (or renaming any srt or ssa to match the name of a video file and then open the video file), you might have o disable the internal subtitles in MPC for that. Then you should get a green arrow icon in the task bar. click that and select DirectVobSub. Or in MPC also via mouse menu->filters->DirectVobSub->configure.. Tab "misc".
AFAIK you cannot configure vsfilter from avisynth or virtual dub..

ak_gamma
11th December 2004, 05:18
also you can run VobSub Configure using the command "rundll32 VSFilter,DirectVobSub", this command (without "") should be written in the windows' start->run.. window.
Good Luck

kimi_mo
11th December 2004, 11:55
thanks again people,
i unchecked the prebuffer subpictures
and it didnt work so ill tell you all the settings,

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Main
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orverride placement = unchecked
outline = checked
advanced renderer = checked
read .sub to memory = checked
only show forced subs... = unchecked
polygonize = unchecked

General
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extend to 16:9
MOD32 fix = unchecked
double if smaller than - 384 x 288
load when needed
external = checked
web = unchecked
embedded = checked

Misc
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flip picture verticlly = unchecked
flip subs verticly = unchecked
hide subs = unchecked
show OSD stats = unchecked
prebuffer subpics = unchecked
auto reload subs after detectin modif.. = checked
save full path to .grf = unchecked
apply changes imidiatly = unchecked

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i dont think the other tabs really matter.
are any of these settings wrong?
if not is there any thing else that could be making
it not work as it should

thanks alot for all the help
:)

kimi_mo
11th December 2004, 18:34
i just realized im the dumbest person alive :(

i was running the subtitles over the test video
i had encoded before
so the border was hard subbed on the video
and when the border shrank i couldnt see
im such an idiot

but thanks for all the help anyway
sorry 4 wasting your time