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r0lZ
20th November 2004, 00:30
Dummy PGCs CAN exist in the title domain but it's still illegal.

r0lZ
21st November 2004, 12:41
The menu button viewer bug reported by skynetman and blutach is now fixed. It occured on menus with still frame and audio: the next image was shown (therefore, the next cell was displayed in the background of the viewer). Menubuttons layouts were OK.

The Tcl/Tk bug "image "::menubuttons::Preview_but(7)" doesn't exist" is hopefully fixed, too.

A new version will be released soon...

sunlux
21st November 2004, 13:18
How is know how correct VTS sectors for DVD+R 8,5GB DL ????

r0lZ
21st November 2004, 13:32
Originally posted by sunlux
How is know how correct VTS sectors for DVD+R 8,5GB DL ???? Sorry, I don't know how to do that. IMHO, it is the responsability of the DVD burner software to correct the VTS sectors in that case.

Of course, if someone could explain how it must be done, I'll add the function in PgcEdit...

[EDIT:] I wonder if it is possible with IfoEdit?

blutach
21st November 2004, 13:32
Thanks rolz. Tested on 3 disks, works fine now.

Regards

sunlux
21st November 2004, 14:35
Maybe this help you:

TDK DVD-R 4,7GB 4x - 2,298,496 sectors
TDK DVD+R 4,7GB 4x - 2,295,104 sectors
VERBATIM DVD+R 8,5GB DL - 4,173,824 sectors

r0lZ
21st November 2004, 15:03
It's not suficient: I have to know where to put the layer break, and how to pad the sectors so that there is the same amount of data on both layers of the DVD. This is what I can't do for now.

I suppose however that you have received a burning software with your DL burner. It must be possible to set the layer break and fix the VTS sectors accordingly with it. I know Nero is doing something like that, but it is known to set the layer break at a somewhat random position...

r0lZ
21st November 2004, 16:23
PgcEdit v0.4.2 released.

No new features, but it's an important bugfix.
The VTS_PTT_SRPTI table was not correctly rebuild when the DVD was saved for multi-PGCs titles.
Bug fixed in the menubuttons viewer when displaying a still frame menu with audio: the first frame of the next cell was shown. (Windows only)
Bug in Tcl/Tk libraries that occasionally crashed the menu button viewer (with image preview) hopefully fixed. (Probably Windows only)

ffroms
22nd November 2004, 17:25
I have to report a bug with 0.4.1 version (I guess it is still in new 0.4.2 version). When menu is inside a VTS Title PgcEdit don't show buttons and it reports it have 0b. For example, I have main menu inside VTS_01_1.VOB as Title 1. When using Trace it simple stuck there in loop never showing menu.

Also I've notice that when changing provider_ID I have to click on change 5-6 time before accepting it.

Anyway, great tool. Thank you for that.

FFS

r0lZ
22nd November 2004, 17:35
BOV (Button Over Video) are not yet implemented. I may add BOV support in the future. But this is difficult to do for now, due to the way I have implemented the menu editor, and the parsing of the VOB files. Sorry.

Yes, there is sometimes a problem with the OK/Cancel buttons of the dialog windows. I don't know why, but I noticed that moving the window a little bit solves the problem. This is probably a Tcl/Tk bug.

BTW, please use the last version. There is a big bug in 0.4.1!

DMagic1
23rd November 2004, 02:27
:)

erdoke
23rd November 2004, 02:43
Originally posted by r0lZ
It's not suficient: I have to know where to put the layer break, and how to pad the sectors so that there is the same amount of data on both layers of the DVD. This is what I can't do for now.


I suggest you to contact the author of DVDDecrypter to get help on this. It works fine with DL discs and has an option of setting layer break (can do it automatically too).

r0lZ
25th November 2004, 13:21
PgcEdit 0.4.3 released.

Preview (Windows only) by Jeanl, based on Jsoto's modification of DVD2AVI.
Little refresh bug after edition of the PTT table in the PGC Editor fixed.
Little bug fixed in Tcl/Tk code, related to the position of popup menus.
Some notes about the Preview:

You should be grateful to jeanl, who did the exe I use to display the preview. This was a big work! It is based on Jsoto's modification of DVD2AVI, which was originally programmed by LOLI.J. Thanks jeanl, jsoto and loli!
BTW, jeanl did also the exe used to display the background image in the menu buttons viewer. Thanks again, jeanl!

If you don't like the preview window 'always on top', you should change this option in the little system menu of the preview window.

There is still a problem when displaying a multi-angle cell: all angles are actually shown. But this may be considered as a feature, not a bug! ;)

The source code of both preview executables will be available soon.


Also, there is now an unofficial mirror of the PgcEdit home (http://rebels.plukwa.net/debie.roland/pgcedit/index.html) in Poland, updated daily, thanks to RobertR, aka ideJ.
[EDIT:] The link to the new mirror has changed.

DMagic1
25th November 2004, 19:14
A big thanks to all involved in this project.
:D

DMagic1
25th November 2004, 20:29
Sometimes I have an ISO image and I extract an IFO/BUP to make changes. After making changes to it I can inject the changed ifo and bup back into the iso with having to rebuild the iso. For these changes I have to use IFOEdit because PgcEdit wont seem to let me change just one IFO/BUP and save without the whole dvd. Could you add someway of doing this? I guess it would have to be able to open/edit an ifo/bup with out the whole dvd too.

r0lZ
25th November 2004, 20:47
No, It's not possible, because too many things are interrelated in PgcEdit. For example, I need the whole DVD to be able to display the title number in the PGC selector, and to do the automatic sector adjustments when saving.
Allowing to edit only one IFO would require to remove every automatic features, and I will end up with a clone of IfoEdit!
Sorry!

blutach
26th November 2004, 06:03
I know this has been on your "to do" list for a little while rolz, but the prog is probably coming to a stage where it needs a CHM help file.

I know "features come first", and we all want that, but there are many features that aren't all that evident just from looking at the menus. A help file would increase the user's ability to make the most out of PgcEdit.

Anyway, just a thought.

Regards

2COOL
26th November 2004, 06:13
@r0lz, jeanl, jsoto, loli and others I've involved I've missed....BRAVO! I have been distracted as of late but would like to send each one of you a virtual pat on the back for a job well done! :D

jeanl
26th November 2004, 06:43
@blutach, if you understand german, there's a GREAT guide in pdf format for PgcEdit! I don't understand it, but it sure looks cool!
http://home.tiscali.be/debie.roland/pgcedit/third_party/PgcEdit%20Anleitung.pdf

@2COOL, you're welcome. My contribution was barely 1 week of work, but it was certainly fun (and it's probably not over, think of all the bugs you guys still have to uncover!). To me, just being able to see the menu buttons was already a huge bonus! Thanks r0lZ for this very cool program.

Jeanl

2COOL
26th November 2004, 07:20
@jeanl and r0lZ

Is it possible to show the V/C Id of the cells in the preview Title bar? How about jumping by programs and chapters too?

How come I have three Preview screen sizes in my options: fullsize, medium, and small. In preview window, I only have 1:1 and small. If I chose fullsize, shouldn't I have full screen? anyways, I cannot even toggle to small size. If I chose small, I get small but I can toggle to 1:1. What is medium size? You should play with the option screen size and try toggling. Something is amiss.

Where's the "Always on top" option for preview window? I can change it manually when right-clicking in title bar.

blutach
26th November 2004, 07:37
@jeanl

Me no comprendez deutsch. :D

Oh, yes, let me add my thanks to all those who made this fabulous tool.

Now 6 / 1,000+ is a VERY poor return for rolz's work. C'mon everyone, ante up a bit. This prog is definitely worth it and you get free tech support right here! :D

blutach
26th November 2004, 07:39
@2COOL - the always on top is in the menu of the preview screen. Click on the icon.

Regards

2COOL
26th November 2004, 08:12
Originally posted by blutach
@2COOL - the always on top is in the menu of the preview screen. Click on the icon. Thanks. PgcEdit saves last configuration for preview window. BTW, you also right-click on whole titlebar for the option. ;)

jeanl
26th November 2004, 08:12
Originally posted by 2COOL
@jeanl and r0lZ
How come I have three Preview screen sizes in my options: fullsize, medium, and small. In preview window, I only have 1:1 and small. If I chose fullsize, shouldn't I have full screen? anyways, I cannot even toggle to small size. If I chose small, I get small but I can toggle to 1:1. What is medium size? You should play with the option screen size and try toggling. Something is amiss.

The option size only controls the "small" size of the preview. The preview has a small and a 1:1 size. The 1:1 size is the exact original size (except for 16:9 where the vertical size is shrunk) in pixel. The preview small size is the one selected in the options.
I agree that it does not make much sense to have a "full size" in the options, since you can always get it in the preview window, and it'll remember it...
Jeanl

jeanl
26th November 2004, 08:47
r0lZ,
A small feature request: could you put a button on the menu layout window to "Select and stop trace"? I'm finding that when I'm tracing a DVD, and I get to the menu, stopping there and exiting the menu panel is a bit of an un-intuitive thing: you have to go back to the main panel, click "->| Break", then go back to the menu and hit select to close it.

Also, while you're at it ;), a CTRL-click (or something like that) could select a button and close the menu! It's soooo counterintuitive to have to click on the menu button, then Select! A short-cut would be great
Thanks!
:)

Jeanl

blutach
26th November 2004, 09:29
@rolz

Has the default trace time been reset to 5.0 secs instead of 0.5 seconds???

How do I reset it back to 0.5 and keep it there?

Regards

blutach
26th November 2004, 10:13
Agree with jean re feature request :)

M7S
26th November 2004, 12:18
Thank you for a great program, r0lZ (and every one else who has been involved). :)

I am getting one error though. When I choose the button right under the preview window in the menu buttons window which says which command the menubutton has (in my case "[71 01 00 0F 00 00 00 0D] Set gprm(15) =(mov) 0 ; LinkTailPGC"), I get an "Application Error":

invalid command name "::menued::edit_menu_button"
invalid command name "::menued::edit_menu_button"
while executing
"::menued::edit_menu_button 1 4 1 1 1"
invoked from within
".menubuttons.f2.labcmd invoke"
("uplevel" body line 1)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
(procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 15)
invoked from within
"tk::ButtonUp .menubuttons.f2.labcmd"
(command bound to event)

Sorry if this has been brought up before. I'm new to all Ifo/vob editing.


Regards,
M7S

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 12:20
Originally posted by blutach

I know this has been on your "to do" list for a little while rolz, but the prog is probably coming to a stage where it needs a CHM help file.

Well, this should be done, of course, but would requires many time. And my english is too bad. Maybe it's a job for someone wanting to contribute? As Tobi does with his great PgcEdit Anleitung.
If someone is interested, please let me know. Of course, I can help if some explanations are needed...
Thanks in advance.

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 12:23
Originally posted by jeanl
r0lZ,
A small feature request: could you put a button on the menu layout window to "Select and stop trace"? I'm finding that when I'm tracing a DVD, and I get to the menu, stopping there and exiting the menu panel is a bit of an un-intuitive thing: you have to go back to the main panel, click "->| Break", then go back to the menu and hit select to close it.

Also, while you're at it ;), a CTRL-click (or something like that) could select a button and close the menu! It's soooo counterintuitive to have to click on the menu button, then Select! A short-cut would be great
Thanks!
:)

Jeanl Good ideas. I'll add them in the next version.

[EDIT:] I've done that this way to be able to see the commend in the viewer, and the target highlighting in the main window, while staying in the menu.

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 12:26
Originally posted by blutach
@rolz

Has the default trace time been reset to 5.0 secs instead of 0.5 seconds???

How do I reset it back to 0.5 and keep it there?

Regards The default timing is now 5 seconds because 0.5 s. was too short for the preview in Trace mode.
But the last used timing is now saved with the PgcEdit configuration. So, you can easily use what you want...

[EDIT:] Oops. Sorry. It's not correctly saved. Will be fixed soon...

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 12:30
Originally posted by M7S
Thank you for a great program, r0lZ (and every one else who has been involved). :)

I am getting one error though. When I choose the button right under the preview window in the menu buttons window which says which command the menubutton has (in my case "[71 01 00 0F 00 00 00 0D] Set gprm(15) =(mov) 0 ; LinkTailPGC"), I get an "Application Error":

invalid command name "::menued::edit_menu_button"
... Oops! I am currently working on a button command editor, but it is not yet included in the released version. I forgot to remove the ability to call the editor when clicking on the command. For now, just don't click there!
Will be fixed in the next release...

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 12:34
@everybody

Thanks for your support and encouragements.
Special thanks to the 7 donators out there! (yes, there is one more, now)

M7S
26th November 2004, 12:38
Wow!
A button command editor sounds great. I'll try to keep my fingers of that button until it works. ;)

M7S

blutach
26th November 2004, 14:04
@rolz

Very tiny thing.

In utilities menu, the shortcut keys to the Preview PGC should read Ctrl + ~ not ' ~

Regards and thanks

Oh, and I loved 0.5secs, even less when "playing" the movie.

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 14:13
Originally posted by blutach
@rolz
In utilities menu, the shortcut keys to the Preview PGC should read Ctrl + ~ not ' ~
No: the shortcut is really the ` key (back apostrophe). You don't need to use the Control key. The display show ` (~) because the ` is not verry visible, and may be confused with the ' key. So I added the tilde to help locate the key.

M7S
26th November 2004, 14:36
Originally posted by r0lZ
No: the shortcut is really the ` key (back apostrophe). You don't need to use the Control key. The display show ` (~) because the ` is not verry visible, and may be confused with the ' key. So I added the tilde to help locate the key.

With a swedish keybord its imposible to use that shortcut. At least I'm not able to do it :(

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 14:43
Originally posted by M7S
With a swedish keybord its imposible to use that shortcut. At least I'm not able to do it :( Humm. What key do you have just below the Esc key?
Does the Control-` key work?

M7S
26th November 2004, 15:03
Under ESC I have § and no it doesn't work. with or without control.

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 15:15
PgcEdit v0.4.3.1 released
New button in the menubutton viewer in Trace mode to select the current button and stop Run mode.
Menubutton viewer: You may now select a button and close the viewer in one operation by Control-clicking or clicking with the middle mouse button on a button in the viewer.
Menubutton viewer: Clicking on the command display doesn't generate an error anymore.
The playback timing in Trace mode is now saved in the configuration file.
I have released this minor update to fix the various problems discussed here. The homepage is not updated, but the files are.
Download it at the main homepage, or at the VideoHelp mirror. The mirror in Poland will be updated only tomorrow...

@M7S
Sorry. The hotkey problem is not yet fixed.

blutach
26th November 2004, 15:22
Originally posted by r0lZ
No: the shortcut is really the ` key (back apostrophe). You don't need to use the Control key. The display show ` (~) because the ` is not verry visible, and may be confused with the ' key. So I added the tilde to help locate the key. Must confess I didn't try the ` by itself :). But certainly control + ` works for me

RobertR
26th November 2004, 15:35
Originally posted by r0lZ
PgcEdit v0.4.3.1 released
The mirror in Poland will be updated only tomorrow...

As of now my mirror is up-to-date (I've just set it up so that it checks every 6 hours - this should give good balance between beeing updated and not causing much overload on orignal homepage.

r0lZ thank you very much for your continued efforts with this app!!
(unfortunately PayPal is a no go for Poland :( )

blutach
26th November 2004, 15:43
@ rolz

Just as we now have the trace timings saved, can we also have our watch preferences saved, too? I find it a bit tedious always clicking on Watch - Registers and then again on SPRM labels (if I want to see them). Can PgcEdit remember what we want to watch and when trace opens, open the watch window automatically?

BTW: Where is the "config file"?

Regards

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 16:08
Originally posted by RobertR
As of now my mirror is up-to-date (I've just set it up so that it checks every 6 hours - this should give good balance between beeing updated and not causing much overload on orignal homepage.

r0lZ thank you very much for your continued efforts with this app!!
(unfortunately PayPal is a no go for Poland :( ) Thanks to you, for the mirror!

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 16:13
Originally posted by blutach
@ rolz

Just as we now have the trace timings saved, can we also have our watch preferences saved, too? I find it a bit tedious always clicking on Watch - Registers and then again on SPRM labels (if I want to see them). Can PgcEdit remember what we want to watch and when trace opens, open the watch window automatically?

BTW: Where is the "config file"?

Regards

The watch window configuration is already saved as well. Just quit the trace without first closing the watch window.
The various config files are saved in "<System Drive>:\Documents and Settings\<your login name>\Application Data\PgcEdit\" under Windows, and in ~/ under Linux and MacOSX.
Under Windows, the Application Data folder may be hidden. To see it, go to Folder Options, and check Show hidden files and folders.

ffroms
26th November 2004, 16:55
Thank you for new version of this great tool!

I have, maybe, a little request if it is possible. I have DVD that have only one subtitle and have audio language that I don't need. How can I remove or add from IFO some subtitles or audio? For now I use PgcEdit to create new subtitle stream in IFO (not VOB) and than I use IfoEdit to set language (hr-Croatian) for that subtitle and then I return back to PgcEdit to finish work (after that I use mock strip in IfoEdit to make everything works).

BTW, I tried to make PayPal donation but my country isn't listed so if you have some other way to make donation let me know. Maybe it is safe to use some other country that is listed, I didn't try that.

FFS

M7S
26th November 2004, 17:33
Originally posted by r0lZ
@M7S
Sorry. The hotkey problem is not yet fixed. [/B]

The hotkey problem isn't much of a problem to me. I can use the menus. I just tought you wanted to know...

Thanks for the new version,
M7S

r0lZ
26th November 2004, 18:15
Originally posted by ffroms
Thank you for new version of this great tool!

I have, maybe, a little request if it is possible. I have DVD that have only one subtitle and have audio language that I don't need. How can I remove or add from IFO some subtitles or audio? For now I use PgcEdit to create new subtitle stream in IFO (not VOB) and than I use IfoEdit to set language (hr-Croatian) for that subtitle and then I return back to PgcEdit to finish work (after that I use mock strip in IfoEdit to make everything works).

BTW, I tried to make PayPal donation but my country isn't listed so if you have some other way to make donation let me know. Maybe it is safe to use some other country that is listed, I didn't try that.

FFS When you strip streams, the old subtitle should be removed from the IFOs, and when you mux a new one, it should be added automatically, no?


PayPal sucks. Too many countries are not supported, and it is not possible to choose your preferred language when making a donation.
If someone knows another solution, if possible valid in the whole world, please let me know.

jeanl
26th November 2004, 19:11
r0lZ, THanks so much for the new version with the shortcuts and all!!!! I just love how responsive you are with suggestions. Try that with a commercial software?! ;)

Jean

jeanl
26th November 2004, 19:33
r0lZ,
on ice age, when I click on the widescreen button in the aspect ratio menu, I get this error:

image "::menubuttons::preview_but(2)" doesn't exist
image "::menubuttons::preview_but(2)" doesn't exist
while executing
"$w configure -relief sunken -state active"
(procedure "tk::ButtonEnter" line 6)
invoked from within
"tk::ButtonEnter .menubuttons.video.f.b2"
(command bound to event)

This is with the latest version 0.4.3.1
Jeanl