Unsuccessfull Seamless braching/multiangle disc list

[jdobbs]

For one thing you need to remove the LPCM track. At 23.1% reduction the picture isn't going to look very good.

[MarioGarcia]

there's no lpcm track; there are two 5.1 and two 2.0
now; I changed the rebuilder ini file and put what you told us to put.. in [options] in rebuilder.ini I put ILVU_Extract=1 as you suggested, now i the working directory there are 4 vobs with a total size of 3.37 GB,
and the log file is now the following:

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[12:59:23] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 3,498,739 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 193,547 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 176,692 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 8,663 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1,770,014 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 95,645 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 50.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,108Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,065,618KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 4,059/410/2,108 Kbs
[13:24:15] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 25 minutes.
[13:38:04] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
the encoder has not frozen yet, it's still encoding 4 passes.
what's going to happen?

[TheSeeker]

Alien from the Alien Quadrilogy. Seamless branching dvd containing the Theatrical and Directors cut versions. I rip with DVD Decrypter 3.5.2.0 in file mode. then i use these files as the source in DVD RB (totally unpreprocessed) Got back a reduction of 29% after the prepare phase was run. Thought this sounded a little high (since the dvd would have to be like 13 gb for that to be true) I figured I was seeing a case of the IVLU segments arent being compressed. So just reporting this. DVD RB 0.77, avisynth 2.55, cce sp 2.70, dgdecode 1.10. Aliens from this same set is another tough one to do.

[MarioGarcia]

Originally posted by MarioGarcia
there's no lpcm track; there are two 5.1 and two 2.0
now; I changed the rebuilder ini file and put what you told us to put.. in [options] in rebuilder.ini I put ILVU_Extract=1 as you suggested, now i the working directory there are 4 vobs with a total size of 3.37 GB,
and the log file is now the following:

the encoder has not frozen yet, it's still encoding 4 passes.
what's going to happen?
after 310 minutes of encoding, the result is of 5.69 gb; an oversized dvd. how can I reduce that big size?

[jdobbs]

ILVU_Extract was set? That's why it was oversized. That flag should never be set -- it is only there for my developmental testing and a way to break the interleaved sections into separate streams.

The reason I'd mentioned it earlier in this thread was so someone could see how big the ILVU sections were. Since you've already done it, how big are they?

[MarioGarcia]

for this dvd (metallica s&m dvd 2) 4 vobs were copied to the working directory; the dvd only contains 2 vts vts_1 and vts_2 but they were copied under vts_3 and 4, and altogether they make 3.37 gb.
the trouble is when I don't set ILUV; cce simply doesn't encode. I would love to keep the angles...

[jdobbs]

What I'm trying to tell you is that it can't possibly work right with ILVU_Extract=1 set in your .INI file. You have to remove that line from the INI. That option is what created VTS_03 and VTS_04.

Based on the size of those VTSs you have a DVD that is angled throughout. That doesn't happen very often -- but it did here. The current DVD-RB beta can't handle that scenario, I'm still working on that portion of the program.

[soupdragon]

Hi
I don't want to disturb the great man himself, so does anybody else know just how far away he is from sorting the issue with large portions of multi-angle/ILVU?
For me, this is the only fly left sitting on the cake......
I know it's done when it's done but if anyone has a rough idea when it might be sorted I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy.
Cheers Soup

[jdobbs]

In the near future the VIP (Pro) version will have the ability to remove angles and also do movie-only. In the not too distant future (a month maybe?) it will reencode them as well. My time for DVD-RB has been restricted lately, but I'm planning to sit down and crank out V1.00 very soon.

[soupdragon]

OK cheers, I'll wait patiently then :-)
Do you think you'll go straight from V0.77 to v1.0? It really is SO close to perfect :-)
Thanks again Soup

[lamster]

Originally posted by jdobbs
In the near future the VIP (Pro) version will have the ability to remove angles and also do movie-only.

Hi,

What do you mean by "movie-only"? Does this refer to throwing away the extras, or to only compressing the movie? If the latter, I hope it would be implemented as a way to select which VOBs should be compressed, since I'm more likely to want to go the other way. (I.e., if something almost fits (and has extras big enough, of course), then I'd want to try compressing just the extras and not touch the main movie, which should run much faster than if the compression was spread out amongst all the VOBs.)

[jdobbs]

In movie-only mode there will be no menus or extras, when you put in the DVD it plays the movie, chapters and audio/subs will all be intact (as selected), the real advantage to this is for long films that need all 4.37GB dedicated for playback.

[brashquido]

This sounds great. I've been trying to convert Finding Nemo just recently, and I've tried reducing the heavily animated menu from 465MB to a 6MB still image based menu with vobblanker, and have tried removing the 188MB audio commentary track, but it still doesn't seem to be quite enough to give the main movie quite enough to be free of artifacts. Of course I *could* remove the 740 DTS track, but I'd prefer to have a movie only based conversion than do that.

Is this Pro version to be a different from the current VIP offering, or is it going to be simply the VIP version renamed to pro as it has these extra features?

[jdobbs]

The difference is the the Pro version will never be released as freeware -- it will only go to VIPs. The freeware version will continue on a different path without all the extra features (beyond a few more fundamentals that I've promised).

Sorry. I'm not greedy -- but I'm also not getting anywhere near the donations I thought I'd get. I've really spent a lot of time on this package.

[HanSolo00]

Successfully backed up Enemy of the State (R1 NTSC) last night and it plays great... except for the fact that the multi-angle areas haven't been re-encoded by DVD-RB. The 4x3 LBX->16x9 Anamorphic AVISynth script beauty doesn't process those parts so the movie bounces between 16x9 Anamorphic and crappy 4x3 LBX. The french titles cause about 800MB of multi-angle VOB during the film.

I know it's coming so I'll leave this project alone until you get time to tackle the ILVU issue in depth. But when you do, please allow re-encoding of even the smallest segments, since they may still need the application of AVISynth scripts in order to work properly (especially 4x3LBX -> 16x9 resize).

EDIT: Currently having another lash at this after removing french titles angle with IFOedit.

EDIT: Disc works perfectly after deleting the alternate angle with IFOedit and encoding.

[brashquido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
The difference is the the Pro version will never be released as freeware -- it will only go to VIPs. The freeware version will continue on a different path without all the extra features (beyond a few more fundamentals that I've promised).

Sorry. I'm not greedy -- but I'm also not getting anywhere near the donations I thought I'd get. I've really spent a lot of time on this package.

No arguments from me jdobbs, I've already donated twice ;-)

[jdobbs]

It's very much appreciated.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by HanSolo00
Successfully backed up Enemy of the State (R1 NTSC) last night and it plays great... except for the fact that the multi-angle areas haven't been re-encoded by DVD-RB. The 4x3 LBX->16x9 Anamorphic AVISynth script beauty doesn't process those parts so the movie bounces between 16x9 Anamorphic and crappy 4x3 LBX. The french titles cause about 800MB of multi-angle VOB during the film.

I know it's coming so I'll leave this project alone until you get time to tackle the ILVU issue in depth. But when you do, please allow re-encoding of even the smallest segments, since they may still need the application of AVISynth scripts in order to work properly (especially 4x3LBX -> 16x9 resize).

EDIT: Currently having another lash at this after removing french titles angle with IFOedit. Ahh.. yes. You can't convert size on a multiangle movie... that'll get fixed when I implement that portion of the code.

[mpennel]

Just an update to the original post in this thread...I just tried Shrek disc 2 R1 again, and this time, it came out just fine with DVD-RB 0.83pro!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

It burns and plays just fine on the computer. I'll stick it in the DVD player later and double check, but it appears to work ok!

Great job Jdobbs!

[Easy123]

Yesterday I just tried Alien vs. Predator (R2 Germany) as it has one ILVU Block due to the Extended Version also being on the DVD. I wanted to preserve three Audio Tracks and disabled the two Commentaries. But DVD Rebuilder wasn´t successful at all. By selecting the Extended Version the Rebuilded one just jumps to the end if the ilvu Block and then back to the start and then continues to the main title. Also the German DD Audio couldn´t be played,although it´s in the vob data. Guess that one can call this an unsuccesful try.... *gg*

P.S.: I used DVD-RB 0.84.1pro & CCE 2.67...

[mrslacker]

The following has been covered here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91027&highlight=troy) and here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87810&highlight=troy) before, but the "problem" still exists as of .84. A rebuild of Troy R1 suffers from the jumping around behavior when played with MPC, while Nero ShowTime plays it fine. The unprocessed original plays perfectly in MPC, however. The first two cells of the movie are type IVLU (V/C 1/1, 1/2 interleaved with 2/1, 2/2). It's the french version of text intro.

Not really a problem as it seems to play with Nero ShowTime and probably a standalone (will eventually check)... but something is fishy about the output. Maybe MPC isn't perfect with interleaved content, but the source disc isn't a problem for it.

Just thought that I would single out a repeat problem disc... if this is something worth investigating.

[EpicOfTimeWasted]

I actually rebuilt Troy R1 using an older (as in 0.81 or so) version of RB, and it played fine in PowerDVD, and on my standalones (Philips DVP-642, and Sanyo something or other).

[mrslacker]

...and it works fine with Nero ShowTime as well. It would seem MPC is exceptionally sensitive to reauthored ILV material. The fact that it works with the original disc is the only reason I suspect it is not a bug with MPC. If I knew what to look for, I would compare the structure of the original and the processed disc.

I am only reporting this b/c it took me a couple of days to realize it was just a problem with MPC. Time to get a real software DVD player!