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mpennel
18th October 2004, 23:17
Ok, here is where I thought I'd Start a listing of DVDs with seamless branching or multiple angles that are known to not work correctly with DVD-RB.

mpennel
19th October 2004, 12:57
Shrek R1 Disc 2 (Widescreen) NTSC

Finished product is 3.86gig when removing Spanish and French soundtracks, and leaving all other audio tracks including DTS.

The movie appears to play fine in PowerDVD, but the multiple angles option in the special features' STORYBOARD PITCH OF DELETED SCENES won't play after you've selected your scene, and your angle.

In addition to that, this disc is giving me the weirdest error when burning. I've burned hundreds of DVD-RB "shrunk" discs, and I've never had a disc give me an error when I go to burn, but this Shrek disc errors out IMMEDIATELY, and refuses to burn in both RecordNowMax, and Nero. I thought perhaps it was my burner dying, since I've burned so many discs, but I had several other AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders full of different movies on my hard drive that I had been meaning to burn out for a while, so I spent last night burning them out without any problems.

Last night, before going to bed, I reformatted my DVD-RB Working Path drive, and had DVD-RB work on the newly reformatted drive. I started DVD-RB on Shrek again, just to be sure and let it run overnight. I just got up, and found that all of the above is exactly the same.

It would be great if someone else could verify this.

I'm using:

AMD 2500
512meg RAM
CCE 2.50
DVD-RB 0.65 (duh)
DGDecode.dll
Dynamically Assigned Cell Bitrates
I'm not stealing space for extras, or using half D1 and Half space for extras. It is just a basic rebuild with out French or Spanish audio.

Here is the status log file:
Transcoding...
-----------------
[22:35:08] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 2,745,891 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 130,393 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 434,406 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 43,503 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 49,298 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,108 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 51,408 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,080 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 232,161 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 24,466 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 42,046 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3,731 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 48.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,159Kbs
- Space for Video : 2,332,980KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,230/100/2,159 Kbs
[22:39:58] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[22:39:58] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 1
[01:45:46] Phase II ENCODING completed in 186 minutes.
[01:45:46] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 9
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 10
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 11
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 12
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 13
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 14
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 15
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 16
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 17
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 18
- Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 19
- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 20
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 21
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_04
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_04_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_06
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[01:59:39] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 14 minutes.

Done.

jdobbs
19th October 2004, 13:16
Interesting that VTS_05 had multiple angles/ILVU -- but there was no encoding done at all -- which means there is 475MB of what appears to be 100% interleaved video. That's the first time I've see that -- luckily I own Shrek R1 on DVD and will try it tonight. It looks like a good test disc.

I was planning to add forced reencoding of ILVU as an option at some point (my first few interim versions were leaning that way) -- the only reason I've hesitated is that the quality (at least in the examples I've used) took an unacceptable hit.

If large ILVU areas (this one is on the border) appear to be more common than I thought I may have to rethink.

Thanks.

robot1
19th October 2004, 18:28
Originally posted by jdobbs
I was planning to add forced reencoding of ILVU as an option at some point (my first few interim versions were leaning that way) -- the only reason I've hesitated is that the quality (at least in the examples I've used) took an unacceptable hit. You could also use an automated "autodetect". If the ILVU part is larger than a fixed number of MB, DVD-RB encodes it. Else it leaves it untouched.

hobyho
19th October 2004, 18:53
As mentioned in another thread (which I believe I did not describe clearly), I have problems trying to do Stuart Little 2 (R4). It contains an interleaved cell within VTS1.

- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
-----------------
[03:34:52] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 1,729,808 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 112,744 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 114,819 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 10,990 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 39,771 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3,135 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 426,218 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 41,185 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 53,119 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,100 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 77,030 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,505 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 57,203 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,350 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_09: 47,336 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3,545 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_10: 41,480 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3,740 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_11: 30,338 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 2,370 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_12: 384,349 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 36,560 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_13: 372,396 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 35,478 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 64.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,778Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,604,090KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 4,634/123/2,778 Kbs
[03:38:55] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[03:39:05] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/5959/directory.gif

Since VTS1 is flagged to have interleaved cells, as jdobbs mentions, it will not be encoded due to the insignificant size reduction. But, however in this case it is the MAIN movie, and in addition DVD-RB wants to encode non-existant avs files of VTS1 as shown in my screenshot above.

Hopefully you can detect and fix this issue jdobbs, and thanks for your efforts.

PS.

Rebuilder.inf (beginning)

[Status]
mode=1
Progress=1
CCEType=0
Encode_Progress=2
[V0300001]
Last_Sector=114819
[V03000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25854.000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=10950
Last_Sector=114768
Reduction=64.2
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=39445854.000


Rebuilder.ecl (beginning)

; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD Rebuilder

[item]
title=V01000000003001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=V01000000003001.vaf
aud_file=V01000000003001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=576
frame_rate_idx=3
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=3175
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=8360
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
encode_mode=0
vmode=2
fast_mode=0
quality_prec=24
timecode=0x0000000
vid_file0=V01000000003001.m2v
vid_file1=V01000000003001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=6688
vbr_bias=25
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

Zhnujm
19th October 2004, 19:47
Originally posted by jdobbs
Interesting that VTS_05 had multiple angles/ILVU -- but there was no encoding done at all -- which means there is 475MB of what appears to be 100% interleaved video.

I think its somewhat necessary to allow reencoding of the interleaved areas.
I have seen concert dvds with more than 3GB of that (if i can trust dvddecypters angle removement).

lamster
19th October 2004, 20:39
Trying to back up Daredevil.

Some files are listed in the rebuilder.ecl file that aren't represented in the rebuilder.inf file.

The .INF file starts with:
[Status]
mode=2
VTS_05_SIZE=2245372
VTS_06_SIZE=13
VTS_07_SIZE=191137
Progress=1
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=1
[V0500001]
Last_Sector=1579874
[V05000000001001]

The .ECL file starts with:
; Created by DVD Rebuilder

[item]
title=V04000000013001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=V04000000013001.vaf
aud_file=V04000000013001.mpa

and continues on with items for V04000100014001, V04000200015001, and V04000300016001, before reaching V05000000001001 (the first entry in the .INF).

VTS_04_1.VOB is 479,791,104 bytes; it contains 3 angles. The VTS overview for VTS_04_0.IFO shows:
Menu attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x80)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:26.09 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:01:26.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:26.09] [Frames: 2589] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:01:26.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:26.09] [Frames: 2589] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:01:26.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:26.09] [Frames: 2589] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:00:00.15 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 13)
[Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 13/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.15] [Frames: 15] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:01:07.12 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 4,5,6)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:01:07.12 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:07.12] [Frames: 2022] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 5/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:01:07.12 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:07.12] [Frames: 2022] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 6/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:01:07.12 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:07.12] [Frames: 2022] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]

PGC_4 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:00:00.15 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 14)
[Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 14/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.15] [Frames: 15] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]

PGC_5 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:00:27.13 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 7,8,9)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 7/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:00:27.13 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:27.13] [Frames: 823] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 8/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:00:27.13 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:27.13] [Frames: 823] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 9/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:00:27.13 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:27.13] [Frames: 823] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]

PGC_6 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:00:00.15 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 15)
[Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 15/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.15] [Frames: 15] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]

PGC_7 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:00:34.07 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 10,11,12)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 10/ 1] (Angle 1): time: 00:00:34.07 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:34.07] [Frames: 1027] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 11/ 1] (Angle 2): time: 00:00:34.07 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:34.07] [Frames: 1027] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]
[Cell 03] [V/C Id: 12/ 1] (Angle 3): time: 00:00:34.07 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:34.07] [Frames: 1027] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/yes/yes/yes]

PGC_8 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:00:00.15 / 30 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 16)
[Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 16/ 1] : time: 00:00:00.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:00.15] [Frames: 15] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]

Menu Language Units: 1
Language Menu Unit 1: [English]

Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)

My Rebuilder.log starts with:

c:\bin\Rebuilder.exe
Created at: 2004/10/18 20:37:12
Product Name: DVD Rebuilder
Product Version: 0.64
c:\bin\QuEnc.exe
Created at: 2004/08/30 11:27:44
Product Name: QuEnc
Product Version: 0, 0, 5, 4
c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Created at: 2004/04/24 9:03:24
Product Name: MPEG2Dec3
Product Version: 1, 0, 1, 0
C:\WINDOWS\system32\avisynth.dll
Created at: 2004/09/01 10:49:56
Product Name: Avisynth 2.5
Product Version: 2, 5, 5, 0
c:\bin\DGDecode.dll
Created at: 2004/06/07 12:55:28

- Versions:
-- ReJig Version: v0.3.0.0
-- QuEnc Version: v0.0.5.4
-- DECODER Version: vUNKNOWN
-- AVISYNTH Version: v2.5.5.0

Transcoding...
-----------------
[14:37:25] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_04: 234,273 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 19,387 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 3,022,968 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 149,036 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 314,573 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 23,688 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 198,189 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 12,230 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 34.6%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,618Kbs
- Space for Video : 1,683,824KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 4.3%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 2,434/300/1,618 Kbs
[14:54:53] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 17 minutes.

The only "V04*" in my working directory is V04.D2V.

Please let me know if there's any other information I can provide.

TuRiSOft
19th October 2004, 20:50
Originally posted by jdobbs
Interesting that VTS_05 had multiple angles/ILVU -- but there was no encoding done at all -- which means there is 475MB of what appears to be 100% interleaved video. That's the first time I've see that -- luckily I own Shrek R1 on DVD and will try it tonight. It looks like a good test disc.

I was planning to add forced reencoding of ILVU as an option at some point (my first few interim versions were leaning that way) -- the only reason I've hesitated is that the quality (at least in the examples I've used) took an unacceptable hit.

If large ILVU areas (this one is on the border) appear to be more common than I thought I may have to rethink.

Thanks.

The same happened to me rebuilding Ghostbusters Pal Version in wich vts_10 is made by three interleaved cells and nothing more.
RB didn't touch it (about 400 Mb) and ended up with an undersized DVD(due to vts_10_1.vob that simply isn't there!).
I only had to copy/paste the VOB to the final Video_TS dir and get vts sector in order to have a complete backup.

Another little issue is related w/subtitles (I never use to remove noone of them but I was interested by the new window on the right bottom and wanted to try it).
I unchecked spanish subs in all vts and as a result they are still there after rebuild fase!

Bye!!!!

EddieTH
19th October 2004, 21:36
Beauty And The Beast Special Edition (R1)

This disc has 3 versions of the movie, and it seems to be the exception to the rule about how much the extra angles and ILVU add to the disc. DVD-RB tries to re-encode with a reduction of -19.4% (yes less than 0% :eek: ) and an average bitrate of 100kbps.

lamster
19th October 2004, 22:45
Originally posted by lamster
The only "V04*" in my working directory is V04.D2V.
Inspired by the DVD-RB 0.65 Output Bug ? (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84019) thread, I checked the root of C:, and found the missing V04*.AVS and .FLG files there.

I've since started another rebuild of something else, but when that's done I'll go back and retry DareDevil, copying the missing files to the working directory before proceeding with the second phase.

jdobbs
19th October 2004, 22:48
Hmmm... I'm not positive... but I think I may have to do some work on my ILVU processing. What do you guys think?

robot1
19th October 2004, 23:01
Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmmm... I'm not positive... but I think I may have to do some work on my ILVU processing. What do you guys think? Can your code mux streams for ILVU?
If it's possible, you could enable encoding of the multi-angle video streams (according to user selection or multi-angle size)
If the program shouldn't encode, you could simply demux video part of those vobs (as for rejiig's recoding)
It's just a suggestion, without knowing how your program works... so if I've said stupid things, just ignore my post ;)

wmansir
19th October 2004, 23:03
This disc contains 3 versions of the movie: Theatrical, SE and Extended SE.

Everything went fine until during rebuilding. PowerDVD and WinDVD played the results fine. I can't check on my Apex until later tonight or possibly tomorrow.

However, IFOEdit's dvd player doesn't play back the angled segments correctly. One version plays fine, but the other is skips around and seems to play both angles interwoven together. I didn't check the third angle because it's an easter egg and I forgot the sequence to activate it. I'll have to look it up and check later.

EDIT: Since IfoEdit's DVD playback seems to be a hodgepodge of whatever filters are installed I thought this might be useful:
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/4421/Ifoedit.gif

Also, this seems to be another case of IlVu taking up too much space. video bitrate was around 1850kbps (though if I had just kept the 5.1 audio it would have been around 2150kbps). Although, the log below says 1383 for some reason. Output size was good, 4.34GB, but a little undersized from usual.

- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
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[11:41:34] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,831,744 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 242,797 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 40,698 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 2,712 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 26,742 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 1,456 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 39.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,383Kbs
- Space for Video : 1,739,408KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 1.3%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 8,456/100/1,383 Kbs
[11:50:07] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[11:52:08] Phase II ENCODING started
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[11:52:58] Phase II ENCODING started
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[14:27:32] Phase II ENCODING completed in 155 minutes.
[15:17:55] Phase III, REBUILD started.
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- Processing VTS_04
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Correcting VTS Sectors...
[15:32:34] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 15 minutes.

Done.

UninTY
19th October 2004, 23:25
Our Lady Peace "Live"

Exact same issue as T2 above.

Angle 1 plays perfectly, selecting a different angle seems to cause all the angles to "play together" stuttering and jumping all over the place.

Really good for the first try I would say. :)

Trahald
20th October 2004, 06:25
@wmansir 82997 ;)

RB
20th October 2004, 07:43
Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmmm... I'm not positive... but I think I may have to do some work on my ILVU processing. What do you guys think? Definitely :) As already mentioned, there are concert DVDs that have huge multi angle parts. For instance, I own a concert DVD (3 hours split over 2 DVDs) where only 20% of the total running lenght are not multiangle. I would recode interleaved cells unless, say, the lenght of the multiangle part(s) in the VTS is less than 20% of the total running length of all video in the VTS. This threshold could be tweakable.

Msc_Alex
20th October 2004, 08:04
Originally posted by wmansir
This disc contains 3 versions of the movie: Theatrical, SE and Extended SE.
Everything went fine until during rebuilding.
Oh no this is weird :confused: we have the same disk (R1 ntsc)and mine bombed out with error 52 at the prepare step, have to look closer now. Found that rb 0.65 reset my encoder to RegJig , used decryptor in file mode and am still using the “older “ 2.5 avisyth. Will try to find out what’s happening.:(

edit: with cce it "works" but Regjig gives this error.

Fr4nz
20th October 2004, 08:24
Originally posted by RB
Definitely :) As already mentioned, there are concert DVDs that have huge multi angle parts. For instance, I own a concert DVD (3 hours split over 2 DVDs) where only 20% of the total running lenght are not multiangle. I would recode interleaved cells unless, say, the lenght of the multiangle part(s) in the VTS is less than 20% of the total running length of all video in the VTS. This threshold could be tweakable.

So you suggest to put an option in which the user can decide whether compress ILVU portions or not, right?

That could be a good compromise....

Another thing (if possible) could be to write an algorithm in DVD-RB which analizes the total amount of time that ILVU portions take on the dvd and then the program decides to compress them or not.

jdobbs
20th October 2004, 10:46
Originally posted by RB
Definitely :) As already mentioned, there are concert DVDs that have huge multi angle parts. For instance, I own a concert DVD (3 hours split over 2 DVDs) where only 20% of the total running lenght are not multiangle. I would recode interleaved cells unless, say, the lenght of the multiangle part(s) in the VTS is less than 20% of the total running length of all video in the VTS. This threshold could be tweakable. Just be be sure (this is for everyone... could you go into the [Options] area of the Rebuilder.ini file and add a line that says "ILVU_Extract=1" -- that will create a new .VOB named (VTS_XX_A.VOB, VTS_XX_B.VOB, etc.) in the working directory that holds the ILVU portions (deinterleaved). Then let me know how big that set of VOBs are. It will get generated during the "PREPARE" phase.

jdobbs
20th October 2004, 10:48
Originally posted by Msc_Alex
Oh no this is weird :confused: we have the same disk (R1 ntsc)and mine bombed out with error 52 at the prepare step, have to look closer now. Found that rb 0.65 reset my encoder to RegJig , used decryptor in file mode and am still using the “older “ 2.5 avisyth. Will try to find out what’s happening.:( It looks like I screwed something up in the ReJig portion at the last minute before release. I'll look at that tonight.

lamster
20th October 2004, 16:42
[14:37:25] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_04: 234,273 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 19,387 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 3,022,968 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 149,036 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 314,573 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 23,688 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 198,189 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 12,230 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 34.6%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,618Kbs
- Space for Video : 1,683,824KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 4.3%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 2,434/300/1,618 Kbs
[14:54:53] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 17 minutes.


479,750,144 VTS_04_A.VOB
644,214,784 VTS_06_A.VOB


Note: The movie itself plays fine. The only "Bonus" options are to turn on "Enhanced viewing mode", where a symbol flashes on the screen during various portions of the movie, and if you click Enter on your remote, you go to a director's commentary. I've only watched the movie once, and didn't have that turned on, so I'm not sure where to go to to test this feature. I'll give a final "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" as to whether the backup was successful once I figure that out...

pg55555
20th October 2004, 17:09
lamster

Ussually Shrink provides a good information about what titles go en each angle.

And you can use VobBlanker to see what titles are in each VTS. And as the angles are in VTS4 and VTS6, see what material is there...

Just an idea

lamster
20th October 2004, 17:37
@pg55555

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm actually taking a "quick and dirty" approach - I'm just changing the First Play PGC to jump directly to each title in VTS_04 and VTS_06, and seeing where it returns to in the main movie when the commentary segment is done.

The eDealer
20th October 2004, 21:43
Troy (RC2)

; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD Rebuilder

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[06:41:02] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
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-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 236.765 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
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- Overall Bitrate : 3.257Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.765.140KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 4.589/2.004/3.257 Kbs
[06:50:05] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[06:54:31] Phase II ENCODING started
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[10:37:14] Phase II ENCODING completed in 223 minutes.
[22:33:56] Phase III, REBUILD started.
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- Processing VTS_01
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- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
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- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[22:40:50] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 7 minutes.


- With this DVD: RB stoped the rebuilding phase.
The Problem was: there are only 4 files (item.ecl, REBUILDER.ECL, REBUILDER.INF, V01.D2V) in the working directory and nothing more.
I found all other files in the DVD-RB root dir but not in the workdir !? After copying everything in the work dir and starting again the rebuild it works fine. Other DVD with same settings: no problem.
- The size of the result was just 4042MB (or 4.239.917.056 bytes instead of 4.700.000.000 bytes) using CCE 2.67, VBR, 3 passes and CCETargetSectors=2260000?!
- With the beginning of the second cell, the selected german audiostream is gone (no sound anymore)?

No resize or cropping.

lamster
21st October 2004, 17:34
NTSC, Region 1, QuEnc.

Got "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort." during the Rebuild phase. Seems strange, since I thought jdobbs had said this was one he had tested, so I tried again (starting with phase 1), and got the same thing.

Here's my Rebuilder.log:

c:\bin\Rebuilder.exe
Created at: 2004/10/18 20:37:12
Product Name: DVD Rebuilder
Product Version: 0.64
c:\bin\QuEnc.exe
Created at: 2004/08/30 11:27:44
Product Name: QuEnc
Product Version: 0, 0, 5, 4
c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Created at: 2004/04/24 9:03:24
Product Name: MPEG2Dec3
Product Version: 1, 0, 1, 0
C:\WINDOWS\system32\avisynth.dll
Created at: 2004/09/01 10:49:56
Product Name: Avisynth 2.5
Product Version: 2, 5, 5, 0
c:\bin\DGDecode.dll
Created at: 2004/06/07 12:55:28

Transcoding...
-----------------
[14:05:58] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 315,295 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 41,292 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 2,891,752 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 203,239 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 60.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,519Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,136,076KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 6.4%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 4,129/836/2,519 Kbs
[14:11:53] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes.
[14:11:53] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 90
[19:36:21] Phase II ENCODING completed in 325 minutes.
[19:55:45] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_08
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
[20:19:17] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 90
[01:31:11] Phase II ENCODING completed in 312 minutes.
[10:52:01] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_08
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1


The "Progress" line shows V02000100002001.M2V, with the blue bar about 85% of the way over. The D2VAVS directory contains:
[...]
271 V02000100002001.AVS
747 V02000100002001.FLG
11,606,329 V02000100002001.m2v
272 V02000200002002.AVS
1,324 V02000200002002.FLG
24,665,478 V02000200002002.m2v
[...]
366,235,648 VTS_02_A.VOB

The current size of VTS_02_1.VOB in my output VIDEO_TS directory is 18,298,880.

Tried re-running the Rebuild phase with "Special Error Processing" checked; got the same result.

I've started a third attempt, this time on a different machine.

lamster
23rd October 2004, 05:29
Backing up "Kiki's Delivery Service". (Region 1; NTSC; QuEnc.) Result was slightly oversized. Went in to shrink some extras (from the DVD-RB output) with DVD-Shrink, and noticed that the Japanese audio for the main movie was 51 meg. This should have been stripped; I don't know why it wasn't. (Note that angle 1 is used for Japanese language and angle 2 is used for English.) Stripping that was all that was necessary to make the result fit on a DVD-5. (Messed up the audio in the angles, though.) Edit: Wasn't the stripping that messed up the audio; I burned the original DVD-RB output (dropping another VOB to make it fit), and the audio in the multiple-angle section was messed up in the same way - very much out of synch with the video, but otherwise sounding fine.

(DVD-Shrink shows that the Japanese audio for the original was 311 meg, so perhaps RB didn't take into account the size of what wasn't being stripped from the angles?)

Rebuilder.log and listing of output directory:

c:\bin\Rebuilder.exe
Created at: 2004/10/18 20:37:12
Product Name: DVD Rebuilder
Product Version: 0.64
c:\bin\QuEnc.exe
Created at: 2004/08/30 11:27:44
Product Name: QuEnc
Product Version: 0, 0, 5, 4
c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Created at: 2004/04/24 9:03:24
Product Name: MPEG2Dec3
Product Version: 1, 0, 1, 0
C:\WINDOWS\system32\avisynth.dll
Created at: 2004/09/01 10:49:56
Product Name: Avisynth 2.5
Product Version: 2, 5, 5, 0
c:\bin\DGDecode.dll
Created at: 2004/06/07 12:55:28

Transcoding...
-----------------
[22:51:30] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 2,873,291 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 163,155 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 146,909 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 10,548 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 218,779 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 15,208 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 267,759 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 17,839 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 53.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,644Kbs
- Space for Video : 2,783,340KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 15.0%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 4,414/300/2,644 Kbs
[22:57:05] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes.
[22:57:05] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 33
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 0
[...]
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 6
[02:58:14] Phase II ENCODING completed in 241 minutes.
[02:58:14] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 9
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 9 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 9
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 10
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_10
- Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 11 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_11
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 12 CELLID: 1
[10:35:55] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 9
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 9 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 9
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 10
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_10
- Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 11 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_11
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 12 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 13 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 1

- Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 26 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 27 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 28 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 5
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_14
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 15 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 16 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 29 VOBID: 17 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 30 VOBID: 17 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_17
- Rebuilding segment 31 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_18
- Rebuilding segment 32 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_19
- Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 20 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_20
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_04
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 9
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 10
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_08
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_04_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_06
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_06_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[10:59:55] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 24 minutes.

Done.


22,528 VIDEO_TS.BUP
22,528 VIDEO_TS.IFO
927,744 VIDEO_TS.VOB
18,432 VTS_01_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_01_0.IFO
40,960 VTS_01_0.VOB
10,240 VTS_01_1.VOB
98,304 VTS_02_0.BUP
98,304 VTS_02_0.IFO
211,759,104 VTS_02_0.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_02_1.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_02_2.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_02_3.VOB
907,923,456 VTS_02_4.VOB
20,480 VTS_03_0.BUP
20,480 VTS_03_0.IFO
196,608 VTS_03_0.VOB
89,569,280 VTS_03_1.VOB
28,672 VTS_04_0.BUP
28,672 VTS_04_0.IFO
196,608 VTS_04_0.VOB
139,593,728 VTS_04_1.VOB
18,432 VTS_05_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_05_0.IFO
196,608 VTS_05_0.VOB
6,039,552 VTS_05_1.VOB
26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO
196,608 VTS_06_0.VOB
147,812,352 VTS_06_1.VOB
18,432 VTS_07_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_07_0.IFO
40,960 VTS_07_0.VOB
323,584 VTS_07_1.VOB
18,432 VTS_08_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_08_0.IFO
40,960 VTS_08_0.VOB
10,240 VTS_08_1.VOB
18,432 VTS_09_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_09_0.IFO
40,960 VTS_09_0.VOB
10,240 VTS_09_1.VOB
18,432 VTS_10_0.BUP
18,432 VTS_10_0.IFO
40,960 VTS_10_0.VOB
10,240 VTS_10_1.VOB
46 File(s) 4,726,814,720 bytes

k-c-ksum
23rd October 2004, 11:24
Originally posted by wmansir
This disc contains 3 versions of the movie: Theatrical, SE and Extended SE.

Everything went fine until during rebuilding. PowerDVD and WinDVD played the results fine. I can't check on my Apex until later tonight or possibly tomorrow.

However, IFOEdit's dvd player doesn't play back the angled segments correctly. One version plays fine, but the other is skips around and seems to play both angles interwoven together. I didn't check the third angle because it's an easter egg and I forgot the sequence to activate it. I'll have to look it up and check later.

EDIT: Since IfoEdit's DVD playback seems to be a hodgepodge of whatever filters are installed I thought this might be useful:
http://img46.exs.cx/img46/4421/Ifoedit.gif

Also, this seems to be another case of IlVu taking up too much space. video bitrate was around 1850kbps (though if I had just kept the 5.1 audio it would have been around 2150kbps). Although, the log below says 1383 for some reason. Output size was good, 4.34GB, but a little undersized from usual.

- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
-----------------
[11:41:34] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,831,744 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 242,797 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 40,698 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 2,712 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 26,742 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 1,456 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 39.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,383Kbs
- Space for Video : 1,739,408KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 1.3%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 8,456/100/1,383 Kbs
[11:50:07] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[11:52:08] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
[11:52:58] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
[cut for length]
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 90
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 91
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 1
[14:27:32] Phase II ENCODING completed in 155 minutes.
[15:17:55] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 9
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 4 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 7 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 7 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 7 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 4
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- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 9
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_10
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 11 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 12 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 12 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 11 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 13 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 13 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_13
- Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_14
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 15 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 16 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 17 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 17 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 15 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 16 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 15 CELLID: 3
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- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 15 CELLID: 4
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- Rebuilding segment 26 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 27 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 28 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 29 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 30 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 5
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_18
- Rebuilding segment 31 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 32 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 3
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- Rebuilding segment 35 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 36 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_19
- Rebuilding segment 37 VOBID: 20 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_20
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 21 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 22 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 21 CELLID: 2
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- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 22 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 21 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 38 VOBID: 23 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_23
- Rebuilding segment 39 VOBID: 24 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 40 VOBID: 24 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 41 VOBID: 24 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 42 VOBID: 24 CELLID: 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_24
- Rebuilding segment 43 VOBID: 25 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_25
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 26 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 27 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 26 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 26 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 27 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 44 VOBID: 28 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_28
- Rebuilding segment 45 VOBID: 29 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_29
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 30 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 31 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 30 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 31 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 30 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 46 VOBID: 32 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 47 VOBID: 32 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_32
- Rebuilding segment 48 VOBID: 33 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_33
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 34 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 35 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 35 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 34 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 35 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 34 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 49 VOBID: 36 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 50 VOBID: 36 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 51 VOBID: 36 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 52 VOBID: 36 CELLID: 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_36
- Rebuilding segment 53 VOBID: 37 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_37
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 38 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 39 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 39 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 38 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 39 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 38 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 54 VOBID: 40 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 55 VOBID: 40 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 56 VOBID: 40 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 57 VOBID: 40 CELLID: 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_40
- Rebuilding segment 58 VOBID: 41 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_41
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 42 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 43 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 42 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 43 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 42 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 43 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 42 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 43 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 42 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 59 VOBID: 44 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 60 VOBID: 44 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 61 VOBID: 44 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 62 VOBID: 44 CELLID: 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_44
- Rebuilding segment 63 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 64 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 65 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 66 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 4
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- Rebuilding segment 69 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 70 VOBID: 45 CELLID: 8
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_45
- Rebuilding segment 71 VOBID: 46 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_46
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 47 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 48 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 47 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 48 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 47 CELLID: 3
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- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 47 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 72 VOBID: 49 CELLID: 1
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_49
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_50
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 51 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 52 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 51 CELLID: 2
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- Rebuilding segment 81 VOBID: 53 CELLID: 1
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- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_53
- Rebuilding segment 84 VOBID: 54 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_54
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 55 CELLID: 1
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- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 55 CELLID: 2
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- Rebuilding segment 85 VOBID: 57 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_57
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- Rebuilding segment 90 VOBID: 60 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 91 VOBID: 60 CELLID: 4
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_60
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_04
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
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- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
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- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_04_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_05
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[15:32:34] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 15 minutes.

Done.


What are you using to get the dvd into the PC?

does it play flawlessly even before ya run it through rebuilder?.
In my experience If i Have Used DVDdecrypter to get it in to the PC the Angles get screwed.

pg55555
24th October 2004, 21:33
k-c-ksum

In my experience If i Have Used DVDdecrypter to get it in to the PC the Angles get screwed.

I've using Decrypter to rip DVDs with angles without a problem.

Probably you have selected the "Process Angles" setting in Decrypter.

Faust2
25th October 2004, 09:18
I ran into the "error in UpdateIFO - shouldn't happen"-bug towards the end of the rebuild phase. No Preprocessing other then removing PUOPs - ripped with DVDDecrypter. The playback stopped right at the scroll title, so I assume it's related to angles.

If more information would be usefull, please let me know.

Oh, and I also liked more the standard interface, also because I have displaying problems (large fonts selected, because I run a pretty high res).
But my girlfriend likes more the new skin, which means something, because in general, she doesn't like RB at all... :)

Jiant
26th October 2004, 15:05
Region 2 Pal. Contains both theatrical and SE on the same disc.

- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
-----------------
[15:12:55] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 3 656 584 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 335 478 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: -26,5%
- Overall Bitrate : Kbs
- Space for Video : -624 154KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 100/100/0 Kbs
[15:25:01] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 13 minutes.

The working dir contains 3 files:
REBUILDER.ECL
REBUILDER.INF
V01.D2V

Nothing was touched on the disc befor running the prepare phase.
On a sidenote i succesfully backed up sw1 and sw1 extras using this exact configuration. What i mean is that its working.
Also dvd-rb identifys the source as 4:3 which i belive is wrong.

I have the files backed up if they are usefull but i dont want flood te post with the infos from them if not needed.

Msc_Alex
26th October 2004, 16:40
Originally posted by Jiant
Region 2 Pal. Contains both theatrical and SE on the same disc.

- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
-----------------
[15:12:55] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 3 656 584 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 335 478 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: -26,5%
- Overall Bitrate : Kbs
- Space for Video : -624 154KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 100/100/0 Kbs
[15:25:01] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 13 minutes.

The working dir contains 3 files:
REBUILDER.ECL
REBUILDER.INF
V01.D2V

Nothing was touched on the disc befor running the prepare phase.
On a sidenote i succesfully backed up sw1 and sw1 extras using this exact configuration. What i mean is that its working.
Also dvd-rb identifys the source as 4:3 which i belive is wrong.

I have the files backed up if they are usefull but i dont want flood te post with the infos from them if not needed.

I think this is the cause
- Reduction Level for DVD-5:-26,5%

pg55555
26th October 2004, 16:59
Faust2

Please check your Decrypter settings regarding to Angle processing. It is my understanding it does not have to be checked to RB process a multiangle DVD.



Jiant
I would suggest you to check, using RBOpt, the target size of the project, as well as what VOBID were going to be processed by RB, what bitrate they have and what percentage of the final video they represent.

As RB 0.65 does not compress the multiangle / ILVU VOBIDs, it can happen that if they are so big that together with the audio and menus they are bigger than the 4.37 GB of a DVD5, then the mathematical solution, although absurd, would be the compressed files to have a negative size.

It is my understanding jdobbs has realized that his decision to not compress the multiangle VOBIDs, although right in most cases, resulted in problems in those titles that have big muliangle / ILVU content. He is working on it

Jiant
26th October 2004, 17:15
If open the file with rb-opt it crashes.
And as no avs and no flg files are created i think i'll just keep this for later. Also the rebuilder.inf only contains 4 lines.
[Status]
mode=1
Progress=1
CCEType=1

Thanks for the ideas.

The eDealer
26th October 2004, 19:26
RB Opt couldn't handle the rebuilder.inf if it's based on a MA/INTERLEAVING DVD right now.

robot1
26th October 2004, 19:32
@eDealer
I've done just two dvd with multiple angles in the extras, and RB-Opt worked fine.
Could you send me the D2VAVS zipped of a DVD RB-Opt doesn't handle?
(obviously without the DVD-RB misplacing bug...)

The eDealer
26th October 2004, 20:28
Hi Mich,
shure.

I manualy copied the files in the right directory
but it also crash. Now, when I solved the output bug
with Troy, I also can open the rebuilder.inf in the
new prepared version?! :confused:

Was this bug also in another file??




mail is send to you with the old files.

pg55555
26th October 2004, 20:39
RB Opt couldn't handle the rebuilder.inf if it's based on a MA/INTERLEAVING DVD right now
Excuse me, but it has worked for me. I've been able to use RBOpt 0.15 to check and adjust bitrates in The Matrix, Star Wars Episode I and There's Something About Mary, all of which have MA/ILVU .

So, if I'm right:
then the mathematical solution, although absurd, would be the compressed files to have a negative size.
As that it is impossible, RB would not generate a valid Rebuilder.inf file, and so RBOpt will crash.

Just as a way of checking my hipotesis, I would suggest try a movie only back: Use Shrink in RE-author mode, strip all audio excep one, strip all subtitles, process with "No Compression". And then process with RB. With some luck, after the striping there will be enough space in the DVD5 for the VOBID with MA/ILVU without compression plus the VOBIDs RB will compress to fit in it (a "positive" solution in the terms of my quote

robot1
26th October 2004, 20:55
@eDealer
The only lines in Rebuilder.inf you sent me are these:
[Status]
mode=1
Progress=2
CCEType=1
Encode_Progress=46

I think this Rebuilder.inf isn't correct, and jdobbs should look at this.
Does DVD-RB work with this particular DVD?
I think it can't rebuild - or it skips everything and just copies the original vobs.

Anyay I'll insert a check in next version to avoid the crash - but RB-Opt is useless for this backup.

The eDealer
26th October 2004, 20:56
You are right, my fault :( .
After solving the output problem, also the RB Opt. works fine.
As I already mentioned, I did not see any connection in that.

Faust2
27th October 2004, 22:40
Originally posted by pg55555
Faust2

Please check your Decrypter settings regarding to Angle processing. It is my understanding it does not have to be checked to RB process a multiangle DVD.

Yeah, thanks for the hint, you were right. DVDDecrypter is a little queer here; when you select angle processing, it doesn't keep all the angles. Its prolly just me, but I would have expecteted the contrary. So not rb to blame in this case :) , only high density of user...

dave2003
2nd November 2004, 12:12
Originally posted by jdobbs
Interesting that VTS_05 had multiple angles/ILVU -- but there was no encoding done at all -- which means there is 475MB of what appears to be 100% interleaved video. That's the first time I've see that -- luckily I own Shrek R1 on DVD and will try it tonight. It looks like a good test disc.

Could you please let us know what your results were? I am very curious because I also tried backing up disc 2 of Shrek (R1) tonight and it has been a major PIA. I really don't know how as much about DVD video editing as I would like, and I impatiently tried a million things, scattering GBs of files all over one of my drivers.

The first thing I did was rip all the files in "file mode" using DVD Decrypter. With IFOEdit I stripped the main menu VOB, VTS_01_00.vob down a bit, and then used the "VOB extras" feature to strip unwanted streams, VOB IDs, *and* I enabled the multi-angle processing, electing to keep only angle 1. I think that is where I messed up. During playback, I had strange results, like every scene was happening three times, in a different language. Poor description, I know, but I've seen teh same problem described elsewhere before. It doesn't seem like any of the angles playback properly indepedent of each other.

pg55555
2nd November 2004, 13:58
dave2003

From your post, it is not clear if you even tried to process a working source with RB, as the behavior you described looks as your IFOEdit output was screwed. If so, please post in the IFOEdit forum

This thread is about unsuccessfull backups of multiangle DVD with RB 0.65, in which you KEEP the angles.

In general it is recommended to NO pre-process the sources before RB (except for the ripping), even when most of the times RB will work just fine, but sometimes it will have problems.

dave2003
3rd November 2004, 00:52
Originally posted by pg55555
dave2003

From your post, it is not clear if you even tried to process a working source with RB, as the behavior you described looks as your IFOEdit output was screwed. If so, please post in the IFOEdit forum

This thread is about unsuccessfull backups of multiangle DVD with RB 0.65, in which you KEEP the angles.

I apologize. My post was not related to DVD-RB. I had located this thread from the search engine and unwittingly forgot to check to which sub-forum I was posting. FWIW, I did solve the problem (I mistakenly did not strip out a couple of the VobIDs).

GitsLM
3rd November 2004, 18:50
Hi guy, I just did a backup MoF and the result is 5,85 GB big :( What is going wrong ? I am using RB 0.66a, newest avisynth, cce 2.67.00.27. Any solution for me ? Would be very much appriciated. Thanks.

Settings in RB:
steel 50 %
1 click mode
complete dvd without ripping anything

Thats the log

Transcoding...
-----------------
[00:59:06] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 3.131.297 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 244.749 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 366.747 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 24.156 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: -33,9%
- Overall Bitrate : Kbs
- Space for Video : -897.702KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = ,0%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 100/100/0 Kbs
[01:08:21] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
[01:08:21] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 6
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 14
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 23
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 24
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 25
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 1
[02:16:04] Phase II ENCODING completed in 68 minutes.
[02:16:04] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 8 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 9 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_09
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 10 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_10
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 11 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 12 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 13 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_13
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 14 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_14
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 15 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_15
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 16 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_16
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 17 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_17
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 18 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_18
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 19 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_19
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 20 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_20
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 21 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 22 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 23 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 24 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 25 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_25
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 26 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_26
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 27 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_27
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 28 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_28
- Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 29 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_29
- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 30 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_30
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 31 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_31
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 32 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_32
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 33 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 34 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 35 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 36 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_36
- Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 37 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_37
- Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 38 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_38
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding ILVU Area VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[02:31:51] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 15 minutes.

Done.

robot1
3rd November 2004, 19:09
Originally posted by GitsLM
Hi guy, I just did a backup MoF and the result is 5,85 GB big :( What is going wrong ? I am using RB 0.66a, newest avisynth, cce 2.67.00.27. Any solution for me ? Would be very much appriciated. Thanks.

...
- Space for Video : -897.702KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = ,0%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 100/100/0 Kbs
...
Remove some audio tracks.
You have a negative space for video!

Probably you have to split on two discs...

GitsLM
4th November 2004, 07:36
thanks for the hint but I want to keep everything, just makeing the video source smaller, isn't that possible ?

The eDealer
4th November 2004, 11:38
Feedback Troy RC2:
No more problems with the v0.66a, everything is perfect!!
Exact sice for the result, no output bug, selected audio is OK!

Perfect job, jdobbs!!! Thanks!!

robot1
4th November 2004, 18:17
Originally posted by GitsLM
thanks for the hint but I want to keep everything, just makeing the video source smaller, isn't that possible ? Yes, you can keep everything using a negative video size :D
You can try using another tool to compress menus, or removing something.
Else you have to use a DualLayer.
Sorry, but there are some dvd's which can't be copied easily.

wmansir
4th January 2005, 21:18
The Abyss

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[14:33:09] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_04: 3,807,243 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 303,368 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 7.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 158Kbs
- Space for Video : 244,732KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = .0%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 400/100/158 Kbs
[14:38:44] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 5 minutes.

I did a little better than jiant. I blanked out some small VTSs and Numenu'd the 400MB menu down to 225MB. Somehow I doubt even procoder will save me on this one. :)

MarioGarcia
6th March 2005, 11:56
hello
I am trying to backup metallica s&m but it doesn't do anything... it starts to encoding but it last forever at the very first segment at 3%, here's what I get.. I put it at 4 am, and when I returned at 11 am, it had not moved one inch. note than I aborted at 11 am cause I saw it was not moving.


[04:00:34] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 2,921,234 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 158,459 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 143,244 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 8,556 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 795,829 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 60,291 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 23.1%
- Overall Bitrate : 968Kbs
- Space for Video : 1,074,220KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 1,786/100/968 Kbs
[04:07:08] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 7 minutes.
[04:07:09] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
Aborted.
[11:13:50] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0

what do you think I can do?