How To Add NEW Subtitles to a DVD and Keep the Menu ! + First MOVIE Tutorial !

[svage2]

Don't worry. I already fixed this problem. My computer's language was set to chinese and I changed it back to english and solve the problem (I made a little search and found out that non-unicode programs would crash if the language option was chinese/japanese...).
Thx for the guide again. Worked perfectly :)

[solid_snake]

Thanks so much TheMatrixx for this increible tutorial :goodpost: , I try, with one movie and really works.

But i have a problem with the subs, when I import the subs to the dvdlab pro, everything is normal, but when i compile the proyect, and I want so see in the TV, the subs are out of the border of the tv, and example:

"Don´t worry, I will kill that vampire and bring the peace on this world"

In the TV I only can see:

"rry, I will kill that vampire and bring the peace on"

Someone know what is the problem, my tv is 25".

See ya, and thanks again.

[svage2]

Thanks so much TheMatrixx for this increible tutorial :goodpost: , I try, with one movie and really works.

But i have a problem with the subs, when I import the subs to the dvdlab pro, everything is normal, but when i compile the proyect, and I want so see in the TV, the subs are out of the border of the tv, and example:

"Don´t worry, I will kill that vampire and bring the peace on this world"

In the TV I only can see:

"rry, I will kill that vampire and bring the peace on"

Someone know what is the problem, my tv is 25".

See ya, and thanks again.

Just edit the subtitle
"Don´t worry, I will kill that vampire
and bring the peace on this world"
And you will be able to see it
(you can do it after you import the subtitle and the lines are showed to be or not edited)

[solid_snake]

Thanks svage2 for you help, it works.
See ya :thanks:

[Mystiqq]

Just doing the first steps of the guide and all seems to go well. Only problem is the original subtitles.

How do i put original subtitles back without the need to first converting them to text based subs and then back? This is an issue since ive have experience with subtitles and editing/OCR with SW as well as using subrip to convert. They usually if not always have OCR issues and if i do these conversions for multiple subtitles, i can bet that theres bound to be errors...

So is it possible to retain the original sub files that dvddecrypter demuxed or is it just not possible in anyway?

[lark]

at least i let pgcdemux to demux them to SUPs and muxman to remux them back to the final product.

regards
t :)

[Mystiqq]

lark:
Interesting... so you do the whole "dvd lab" stuff throu that same process. I mean that you add subtitles etc. with muxman instead of dvd lab? At least to me it looks like its possible.

Sorry if im asking little "noob-ish" questions but this is my second day with dvd authoring. So far ive had good experiences, mainly PgcEdit, which btw rocks. Only having small problems tracking down each program and what they can do.

[lark]

yep, i usually create (the new) subtitles with subtitlecreator and add them with muxman (original assets=video,audio,subtitles are 1st demuxed with pgcdemux). free version of muxman supports only up to 8 subtitles and can create only a single VTS (i might be wrong, but that's my understanding). if your DVD has more VTSes, you need to replace them one by one (if you added subtitles to multiple VTSes). another option is to rebuild the DVD again with pgcedit (this is, what i do since i normally strip all the VTSes that contain studio logos and other crap).

please see this message http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=693746#post693746 for method i use to add subtitle selection to the menu...

regards
t :)

[Mystiqq]

another option is to rebuild the DVD again with pgcedit (this is, what i do since i normally strip all the VTSes that contain studio logos and other crap).

Do you mean that all this can be done within Pgcedit? I mean adding subtitles etc.? Ive used Pgcedit to do the same things as you said, stripped useless stuff.

Thanks for that link, i edited successfully one menu yesterday but was wondering about where these "masks" etc for menues are located.

[Zyphon]

A great guide TheMatrixx, thank you very much this will come in very useful to me. :D

Great work. :)

[lark]

Do you mean that all this can be done within Pgcedit? I mean adding subtitles etc.? Ive used Pgcedit to do the same things as you said, stripped useless stuff.
sorry for my mumbling. i did mean that instead of replacing stuff one by one, you can rebuild the DVD from scratch with pgcedit, but also in this case you need all the VTSes done by some other tool (e.g. muxman) and menus (either orginal or remade).

regards
t :)

[Mystiqq]

Yea i thought so. :)

Anyways, thanks again. Lot of good and useful information. :)

[Murdock0815]

Well, this is just about the thread I was looking for.

Im trying to add english subtitles to a Thai-DVD, which doesnt have subtitles on it at all.

The main problem is, that the original DVD has 2 pgcs for the main movie part. PGC1 uses VobID1-slvu (only .10 length), PGC2 uses VobIds 2+3-slvu. Of course this gives me problems using Ifo Update, since the reauthored vobs with the subtitles only have one pgc.

Are there any suggestions on this or is manually re-authoring the whole dvd the only way to go here ?

[teoalcantara]

Dear friends;

First, please allow me to say a big THANK YOU!!!! to TheMatrixx for taking the time and trouble of putting together this great tutorial!

I'm having some trouble with a 'open GOPs detected in this file' error on DVD-Lab Pro when I try to import the files demuxed by DVD Decrypter.

It says that 'DVD may play fine but there might be some error with chapter points accuracy'. It turns out that the final DVD comes with no chapters at all. I mean, they are still displayed on the final DVD menu (Choose Chapter), like the original, but you can't select them.

I've searched Google and this Forum for a way to close this GOBs in Decrypter but I couldn't find any. I guess DVD Decrypter do not allow this setting.

Can someone help me out?

Many thanx in advance!!!

Best regards from Brazil,

Teo

[senderj]

Thanks for TheMatrixx's great guide.

The DVD I am about to work on is NTSC and the sub I got is 25fps in srt format. Besides, I need to split the disc into 2 4.7G DVD-R. Also, I only want to replace one of the sub, no need to add one. Can I have some hints on how to change the steps in the guide to adopt these factors? (e.g. how to change the time code in the srt for both the frame rate difference as well as the splitting?)

[dejanc99]

To replace and not to add a new one???????????????????????
Everything is already explained.

[senderj]

I should have been more specific.

From the guide + dejanc99's reply, I interpret as after the demux, I can choose whatever subtitle I like and put it into the timeline. I can also use Step 2e to assign the subtitle code (en, fr, zh etc) regardless of the original code.

Also, the srt frame rate is not a concern (I was told that it is 25fps although I don't understand why a text-based srt is frame rate specific). Since my target is a NTSC disc, so in Step 2e - "Timcode is written in", I should choose "From DF source" instead of "Real Time (25 fps)".

Am I right this time? I am not sure about the second point.

[Zyphon]

I'm having some trouble with a 'open GOPs detected in this file' error on DVD-Lab Pro when I try to import the files demuxed by DVD Decrypter.

I wouldn't worry about this to much. This error message pops up for me every time I author a DVD with DVD-Lab and I have never ever had any problems playing them back on all the SAPs that I have. :D

[teoalcantara]

Thank you for having replyed, Zyphon!

I've only encountered problems with one DVD (the chapters were missing in the final disc). But maybe its a problem with this particular title (Prophecy).

Best Regards,

Teo Alcantara

[dejanc99]

senderj, read the posts sent by me, moderator and Like the Cure on page 2 and 3.
Again: EVERYTHING IS ALREADY EXPLAINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SubRip is a tool you should use before any step of the guide.

[senderj]

dejanc99,

My srt is not rip from SubRip. The original DVD does not have the sub I want, so I download one from some subtitle sites, and the site said that it is 25fps, but the original DVD is NTSC. That is why I ask in this way.

[ukendt]

There is NO SUPPORT :mad: for dl subs!!!! (Forum rules)

[dejanc99]

Well, rip the english one and then compare them with the one you got.
Nevermind the damn site.

[senderj]

To get familar with the guide, I tried it out using the sub ripped from the original DVD using subrip. In DVDLab Pro, I put back the srt to the timeline. But my DVDLab only allow me to put 1 sub into the timeline. When sub1 filled, dragging next srt to sub2 has no effect. Is it because my DVDLab is a trial version?

[dejanc99]

Nope.
Has no effect?
Explain.

[senderj]

By "no effect" I meant I drag the second srt to the sub2, but it didn't put it there and sub2 remained empty.

[daehkcid]

I have a question. Is this method let you keep the existing subtitles, and add a new subtitle stream to the dvd?

How can you select it in the menu options then? :D

[daehkcid]

Hi, i encounted two funny problems:

1. DVDLap Pro 1.53's output of VOB files are slightly smaller than the original VOBS.

Original DVD VOB sizes:
VTS_02_1.VOB to VTS_02_5.VOB : 1,073,479,680 bytes
VTS_02_6.VOB : 691,218,432 bytes

Final DVD VOB sizes:
VTS_01_1.VOB to VTS_01_5.VOB :1,072,783,360 bytes
VTS_01_6.VOB : 696,207,360 bytes

At the IFOUpdate step, i get this error: "ERROR: File: VTS_02_1.srm is not correctly sized on sector boundary. ABORTING."


2. Subtitle changes color. After generated by DVDLab Pro 1.53, the subtitles in the Final DVD folder are "white and black outline". After moving the VOBs into the Original DVD folder, the color becomes "yellow and green outline".

DVD: Final Fantasy Advent Children Region 2.

EDIT: OK found the problem, the color problem only happened before doing the IFOUpdate step.


Any help? Thanks in advance.

[dejanc99]

1. Delete all .srm files (you dont need them)
Vob size is not a problem.

[daehkcid]

I have a very good question for you guys:

What happens with if i want to add back a subtitle that's not text, something like japanese caracters. I ripped Final Fantasy Advent Children, which has japanese subtitles. I tried to add the japanese.sub generated by DVDDecrypter into DVDLap Pro 1.53, and it gives me the error: "Unsupported file type." That makes me not able to put the japanese sub back into it, but have to remove altogether.

Any hints?

[leonafan]

I have a very good question for you guys:

What happens with if i want to add back a subtitle that's not text, something like japanese caracters. I ripped Final Fantasy Advent Children, which has japanese subtitles. I tried to add the japanese.sub generated by DVDDecrypter into DVDLap Pro 1.53, and it gives me the error: "Unsupported file type." That makes me not able to put the japanese sub back into it, but have to remove altogether.

Any hints?


I did this with the ffvii ac dvd I downloaded which had chinese subs. Basically I went to Vstrip to strip the subs out of the ifo, then I went to VobStrip to choose the corrosponding language idx and sub. Then I used SUBRIP 1.40, and open the idx file that I needed, in this case Japanese, I choose to convert to BMP and then save the text file as Scenarist(.sst). Then I add the .sst in DVDLab Pro 1.53. You should now have both english subs and japanese subs.

Hope that helps.

[daehkcid]

Nice, i'll try that, but why do you need both vstrip and vobstrip?

[johnhamler1]

this is to bad, i jusr discover there is no sound, so you can not really check the subtiltes if it is syncronzied
at the end, i f... up my work, and i finished with the bad sound stream...

how can u charge 190$ for a software which has no sound control???

any idea???


where can i download this:
DVD Lab Professional Extensions Update v2.6.4

[daehkcid]

I think i have that, but what is it for?

Btw, is there a way to put italic subtitles and regular at the same time?

Also, what's vobstrip, i can't find it anywhere.

Leonafan, could you go more into details about the steps? Thank you.

[astroman]

Hello There! thanks for this awsome Guide!

one question... what if i have a dvd with English subs and i whant to add for ie and Spanish subs keeping the english.. i want both subs .. how can i solve this??? in an easy way... ;)

thanks

[daehkcid]

Read the thread. It's answered everywhere.

[Karyudo]

I was looking forward to reading this excellent guide, but it appears all the screen caps -- and all links to dvdromania.org -- have disappeared. Can anyone find these caps (or make some replacements??) and stick them someplace (like ImageShack?) where they won't disappear again?

[ukendt]

U'll find it :
her (http://www.cotse.net/users/ukendt/Guide/)

[TiaoMacaleh]

U'll find it :
her (http://www.cotse.net/users/ukendt/Guide/)

User exceeded maximum daily bandwidth

[ukendt]

Try tomorrow then...I pay for this service although I wasn't aware of a bandwidth...
The file won't be deleted so there is plenty of time.

[TiaoMacaleh]

Got it thanks :)

Ill try it soon

One question, that process wont alter the subtitle menu where you can choose multiple languages in the graphical menu, to do that will make the process much harder?

[X-guy]

Hi all i have a question,

I have a DVD movie which is in NTSC and i want to make a backup with a different subtitle language, now the problem is the the subtitles file that i have is in PAL format, so how do i know to which FPS i should convert it to?

29,97?
23,978?
23,976?

[Mystiqq]

If the subtitle is PAL (25fps) then you need to convert it to 29.97 fps (NTSC).

Small "trick" i use to make sure my subs are in sync... and such.

Ive done lot of syncing by demuxing the audio file, converting it to wav with BeSweet and loading it in Subtitle Workshop and the subtitle i wanted to sync it to. Ive done it many times and it has worked everytime. Only thing you probably need to make sure is to compensate any "delay" there is for the audio but ive not seen any dvd yet that has delay anything except 0ms.

...and i use Subtitle Creator with proper "stretch compensation" to make it "DVD subtitle format".

[X-guy]

If the subtitle is PAL (25fps) then you need to convert it to 29.97 fps (NTSC).

Small "trick" i use to make sure my subs are in sync... and such.

Ive done lot of syncing by demuxing the audio file, converting it to wav with BeSweet and loading it in Subtitle Workshop and the subtitle i wanted to sync it to. Ive done it many times and it has worked everytime. Only thing you probably need to make sure is to compensate any "delay" there is for the audio but ive not seen any dvd yet that has delay anything except 0ms.

...and i use Subtitle Creator with proper "stretch compensation" to make it "DVD subtitle format".

Wow ok, that WAV thing is something i didnt thought about, nice thinking.

But can you please explain "stretch compensation" you mentioned? didnt quite get it.

[Lupo Silenzioso]

I'd like to add italian subtitles (srt) to The Hire (BMW) DVD (ripped By Hausarzt)
Since there isn't a single movie but there are 8 short ones, how can i follow your guide in this case?
in dvddecrypter how can i recognize the PGC which correspond to the 8 movies?
which software do i have to use in order to check this?

I have problems to synchronize the srt files to the video of the dvd... i also demuxed (with subrip) the original eng sub file to match with the italian one, but it seems that it's out of synch (i use subtitle workshop to check this)

how can i detect the frame rate of my dvd?

[solid_snake]

Hi, i have a problem, i want to added french subs in the dbz movie bardock father of goku by funimation, but i can't, cause this dvd have 2 version, original uncut english version and the japanesse version, and when i use the dvd decripter, it shows 2 videos of 45min, i choose one, i demux the video, i do everthing whith dvdlab pro, compile the movie, but the problem is the original dvd have 3 vts vobs, and the compile from dvdlab pro have 2.

I try to use the dvdshrink to copy the original dvd to the pc, and I saw that the final part of the movie is in the extras folder, thats the reason that the compile the project (final dvd) have just 2 vts vobs, and I don't know how to rip that final part with dvddecripter.

Can you help me or Someone has done some of these movies.
Please

[ukendt]

I'd like to add italian subtitles (srt) to The Hire (BMW) DVD (ripped By Hausarzt)
Hi, i have a problem, i want to added french subs in the dbz movie bardock father of goku by funimation
Only movies ripped by your self as long as you own the original, are allowed in this forum. Sub translations made by other people into another language may be allowed though, it depends upon the lows of your country.
Some countries don't give the possibility of ripping your own movies either.
Please keep all those things in mind when you all ask questions.
We must respect the lows in order to keep our forums going.

[solid_snake]

Only movies ripped by your self as long as you own the original, are allowed in this forum. Sub translations made by other people into another language may be allowed though, it depends upon the lows of your country.
Some countries don't give the possibility of ripping your own movies either.
Please keep all those things in mind when you all ask questions.
We must respect the lows in order to keep our forums going.

You are totally right, it was my fault, i'll never do it again, but i so desperate, with this movie, but this is no excuse.

Again sorry.

[Simonsky]

When i demuxing with dvd decryptor i just get the movie file no sound file or subtitle file.
just one m2v

edit.
it puts the sound in a vob file how do i change that

[Mtz]

Simonsky, you forgot to check in DVDDecrypter this:
Stream Processing > Enable Stream Processing, click on the "video" > demux,
click in the "audio" > demux.

For the people who want to sync the subtitles, if they don't have any subtitles to get the time, you can set in "Settings > IFO Mode > File Splitting > None".
Than in Stream Processing > Enable Stream Processing > check the "video" and the "audio" and "Direct Stream Copy". The resulted video can be loaded in Subtitle Workshop.

For the people who want italics or other settings for subtitles in DVDLab Pro, you can see in the screenshot:
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1995/presshere7bm.th.jpg (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=presshere7bm.jpg)

enjoy,
Mtz