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manolito
3rd February 2008, 18:05
ProCoder versions 2 and 3 have a 1-pass VBR mode which up to now is not accessible through ECLPro. I have only done limited testing, so I don't really know how good this 1-pass mode actually is (in terms of quality and sizing). But I thought it would be a good idea to add support for this mode in ECLPro :)

Anyway, this is what I came up with:
http://scifi.pages.at/manolito/ECLPro_Mod/ECLPro_Mod.zip

Change log:
Changes made to ECLPro 1.11
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ProCoder versions 2 and 3 have a 1-pass VBR mode which so far has
not been accessible through ECLPro. This modded version adds
support for 1-pass VBR.

The modifications are minimal:
A new INI entry and a new global variable "1_Pass_VBR" are added.
The default is "1_Pass_VBR=0". If you want to use the 1-pass mode,
just edit the ECLPro.ini file and change the value from 0 to 1.

I only tested this with Procoder versions 2 and 3. I see no reason
why it should not work with Rhozet Carbon Coder, and for the legacy
versions of ProCoder the changes should have no effect at all.


Cheers
manolito

Fishman0919
3rd February 2008, 20:09
The 1 pass mode with Pro 2, 3 and Carbon is more like a CBR then a VBR 1 pass


Carbon 1 pass (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1passhj8.jpg)

Carbon 2 pass (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2passbc5.jpg)

robot1
3rd February 2008, 20:26
1 pass VBR was already supported in standard EclPRO, for ProCoder 2, 3 and Rozhet (it's the Procoder CQ mode).
If you feed EclPRO with a .ecl (for CCE 2.5) using 1 pass VBR, it would have performed a 1 pass VBR, according the Q value in the ecl.
CCE uses a scale 1-300 (lower is better) - while Procoder uses 0-1 (1 is maximum quality). EclPRO converts the values from 1 to 100 in the .ecl to 0-1 for Procoder. Values over 100 are set = 100 (the quality is already unacceptable).

DVD-RB doesn't support OPV for Procoder because the quality, even at best setting, isn't good enough.
Procoder 3 seems a bit better, but still not comparable to other encoders.

RB-Opt lets you use OPV and redistribution with ProCoder, using it's 1 pass VBR.

manolito
3rd February 2008, 20:41
The 1 pass mode with Pro 2, 3 and Carbon is more like a CBR then a VBR 1 pass
Oh I see... This is too bad, I really had hoped for a useful 1-pass VBR mode like the one in QuEnc.

Anyways, 1-pass VBR and CQ modes are certainly not the same. For CQ mode you need to do prediction encodes (which I wanted to avoid), and then there is the question if CQ mode creates DVD compatible streams by observing the max bitrate.

Cheers
manolito

robot1
4th February 2008, 17:53
Anyways, 1-pass VBR and CQ modes are certainly not the same.
You are right. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
As you've added that switch, I will leave it for future versions, and will start from your sources.

horze
21st April 2008, 10:47
I am unable to encode anything with ProCoder 3 (under DVD-RB 1.26.5 & EclPro 1.10)

I get a popup on every segment that DVD-RB tries, with the message:

Grass Valley ProCoder 3
One or more targets could not be restored from the project file.


The same item01.ecl.pcp files are error-free when opened in ProCoder 2.


getting the same problem .. possible bug?

jdobbs
21st April 2008, 11:16
Are you using v1.10 or v1.11? DVD-RB version? When you say "same problem" is leads one to believe you ar using the older versions.

horze
22nd April 2008, 11:13
oh sorry i am using 1.11
dvd rb pro 1.26.6

cheers

Video Dude
23rd April 2008, 19:21
I have had no problems with EclPRO 1.11 and DVD-RB 1.27.x.

Try the updated version.

horze
24th April 2008, 11:31
I have had no problems with EclPRO 1.11 and DVD-RB 1.27.x.

Try the updated version.


with procoder 3?

if so ill get the 1.27 version... my paid registration continues on for the new version aswell doesnt it?

linx05
24th April 2008, 16:28
if so ill get the 1.27 version... my paid registration continues on for the new version aswell doesnt it?
Yes it does - 1.27.3

jdobbs
24th April 2008, 19:49
with procoder 3?

if so ill get the 1.27 version... my paid registration continues on for the new version aswell doesnt it?
An announcement was sent to all registered users for versions v1.27.0, v1.27.1, v1.27.2, and v1.27.3 -- all released since the one you are using...

Not sure if your problem is related to the version -- but it's always a good idea to keep up-to-date.

horze
24th April 2008, 23:47
hehe it be a good ideea to check my email then huh :)

thanx for help :)

Sworm
28th October 2009, 00:05
Hi, the eclpro version included in the last DVDRB pro, is ok for work with procoder 3?

Sworm
28th October 2009, 10:40
EclPRO v1.11 can be download form this Link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1058648#post1058648)


The link don't work, can anybody reupgrade the last EclPro? I'm using the 1.10 but don't work with procoder 3

:thanks:

jdobbs
28th October 2009, 13:10
The link don't work, can anybody reupgrade the last EclPro? I'm using the 1.10 but don't work with procoder 3

:thanks:What version of DVD-RB are you using? ECLPRO v1.11 has been included for a long time...

Sworm
28th October 2009, 14:17
Yes, sorry,
but i have must uninstall procoder because in Win Vista HP ECLPro don't remember the procoder 3 .exe installation directory :(