ffdshow development #2

[celtic_druid]

26 eps though probably means Star Trek and last time I checked Paramount didn't like people downloading their stuff.

[yaz]

Originally posted by chilledoutuk
... in order for you to be able to play avc in .mp4's you need a .mp4 stream splitter that can deal with it containing avc video. currently afaik only the nero splitter can do this (3ivx etc cant well not for me) which means you need vision express installed to playback .mp4 avc in directshow media players ... remember e.g. the moonlight demuxer! it can chain nero ds and ffdshow as well (however, still has some seeking issues and conflicts w/nero parser). so, u can create and use avc.mp4 wout nve, pretty well.
the bests
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[dragongodz]

that's not necessarily illegal, not like a downloaded movie... that's the creed fansubbers go by at least ;p
no but he doesnt say it is a fansub or whatever either. anyway i will kindly point people to this thread
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=86626
which also contains this link
http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?s=&forumid=6

[Amour]

Originally posted by filewalker
ffdshow-20041212.exe is out.

http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ffdshow/
Another problem : I cannot browse (forward, backward) my VCD (mpeg 1/2 ?) anymore using this version of ffdshow. :(
When I do it, the video and sound freeze both.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Amour
Another problem : I cannot browse (forward, backward) my VCD (mpeg 1/2 ?) anymore using this version of ffdshow. :(
When I do it, the video and sound freeze both. Also.... Can anybody confirm whether the DAR signalling detection works now?


Cheers

[therealjoeblow]

Can anyone give some *clear* bulletproof instructions on how to make this work? I encode from TV with my ATI All-in-wonder using latest ffdshow as the encoder, mpeg4 set to xvid, using the basic default settings but also enabling the 'interlacing' tickbox on the general tab under 'other options', nothing else.

I've enabled the "use overlay mixer" on the ffdshow 'output' tab, and it never deinterlaces automatically. I have to manually turn on the 'deinterlacing' tickbox in the sidebar for deinterlacing to actually occur.

It's a pain turning it on and off depending on what I want to watch, so was *really* hoping this automatic solution would work...

thanks for any help

[Teegedeck]

The 'interlacing' option ensures that interlaced content is encoded correcty - as interlaced. It doesn't deinterlace your video.

[therealjoeblow]

Originally posted by Teegedeck
The 'interlacing' option ensures that interlaced content is encoded correcty - as interlaced. It doesn't deinterlace your video.

I never meant to imply that I thought this would do the de-interlacing. I just wanted to make it clear that the file *was* properly encoded as interlaced, and therefore there should be no reason with the source that auto-deinterlacing doesn't work on playback.

So, knowing the source is ok, why doesn't the auto feature work??? That's my question and point of frustration.

[eb]

Amour wrote:
quote:
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Originally posted by filewalker
ffdshow-20041212.exe is out.

http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ffdshow/
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Another problem : I cannot browse (forward, backward) my VCD (mpeg 1/2 ?) anymore using this version of ffdshow.
When I do it, the video and sound freeze both.

Take care, there are many versions of ffgshow from 12Dec.2004.
One designated for SSE, another for SS2 procesors...

http://img147.exs.cx/img147/1305/ffdshow4dc.jpg

For Athlon 2200+ I am using that with size 2,030,080/no troubles/.

eb

[celtic_druid]

Those are 12th Oct, not Dec.

[eb]

Those are 12th Oct, not Dec.

There are many ways to write the date, I prefer 12th Dec 2004,
eb

[celtic_druid]

Yes, there are many ways to write the date, but using 12th Dec 2004 to describe the 12th of October is not a valid one.

[eb]

@ celtic_druid,

I am very sorry, that is my foult.

... but care to all, use a proper version for your computer...

eb

[b0b0b0b]

Hi celtic druid, thanks for posting these builds. I appreciate them

[eb]

@ celtic_druid,
Now I know (but you knew before)why date 20041212 was so hardly coded in my mind. 1 minute ago I recoded it to 20041223.
No problems, no crush with recording on fly to .avi from digital sattv.(SS2 DVBcard)
How to name container with mp2/MPEG1 audio and Xvid compression?

to others, please visit http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ffdshow/

eb

[Sharktooth]

latest ffdshow versions from celtic druid are mirrored here: http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/celticdruid/ffdshow/

[eb]

@ Sharktooth,

Could you please suggest matrices for Xvid for recording on fly from digital sattv using Xvid compression from mpeg2 video stream, progressive, interlaced, PAL 25 frames/s ?

eb

[DeathTheSheep]

Will "slow"/"high quality" or "2-pass" mode ever be available for ffdshow? 'Cuz I need a nice vfw to do ma compression stuff, so yeah, I can't use those dang (hoooboy) MP4 files 'cuz they can't be ported, played (by most stuff), or, the clincher, edited in Vdub. So I was wonderin' whether or not major dev. of x264 was all done or if it is still in progress, lol

Cheers, baa

[bond]

i just wanted to open two different avc-in-avi files in good old avscompare tool, but it seems that its not possible to open two files at the same time via directshowsource() in .avs when using ffdshow as avc decoder (btw the same goes for the vss avc decoder)

anyone mentioning a similar problem?

[Neo Neko]

You might have to change the option to block more than one instance of the filter in the codec config. Just a guess. But it seems likely. ;)

[celtic_druid]

@DeathTheSheep, 2 pass x264 with ffdshow is available. It just doesn't work quite like the other codecs.

[bond]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
You might have to change the option to block more than one instance of the filter in the codec config. Just a guess. But it seems likely. ;) thats what i thought too, but it doesnt work (avscompare also crashes if you try to open one file with ffdshow and one with videosoft... :( )

[DeathTheSheep]

2-Pass lives?! In ffdshow? But... how? ;-*

[bond]

another issue:
i tried connecting latest ffdshow compile from celticdruid to the latest nero .mp4 parser, they can connect, but when i try to play the graph i get the error message: "the graph couldnt change state" :(

[DeathTheSheep]

I get a similar error, but it is usually remedied by modifying the ffdshow filter properties prior to its placement in a chain. This error is due to the fact that upon altering ffdshow's properties, the filter may not be able to change its own state. That's what I've gathered, at least. Hope I could be of assistance.

Cheers, baa

[bond]

whats the status on h.264 b-frames? somehow i remembered someone saying that b-frames without using cabac should work? actually my last tests showed that this isnt true :(

Originally posted by DeathTheSheep
I get a similar error, but it is usually remedied by modifying the ffdshow filter properties prior to its placement in a chain. This error is due to the fact that upon altering ffdshow's properties, the filter may not be able to change its own state. That's what I've gathered, at least. Hope I could be of assistance.hm, what for example do you change exactly? thx :)

[Sirber]

When I try to "use" the ffdshow stats for H264, I get Error #100 :(

[timeismoney]

celtic_druid, the ICL build seems broken in avisynth, would you like to make a simple msvc build?:p

[Shinobu]

use mod*16 and yv12 as an input you won't have de error code 100 anymore

++

[celtic_druid]

You mean using ffavisynth.dll? Works fine here. What exactly is the problem?

[timeismoney]

Originally posted by celtic_druid
You mean using ffavisynth.dll? Works fine here. What exactly is the problem? No, error in ffdshow options 'Avisynth' to load avs

milan's 20041012 is ok, but 20041012-sse or sse2 is fail, too

[celtic_druid]

http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/test/ffdshow.msvc.7z

Seems to work ok.

[timeismoney]

Yes, it works. Thanks.

Here is a question to make a ffdshow build: I install VS2003, DX9c SDK (Dec. 2004) and NASM, when I try to compiling the CVS, there're too much error (over 100+) in head file "simd.h", thus I can make all the dlls but not ffdshow.ax.

Is there something I have to install or something to config?

[slavickas]

Originally posted by timeismoney
Yes, it works. Thanks.

Here is a question to make a ffdshow build: I install VS2003, DX9c SDK (Dec. 2004) and NASM, when I try to compiling the CVS, there're too much error (over 100+) in head file "simd.h", thus I can make all the dlls but not ffdshow.ax.

Is there something I have to install or something to config?

just guess:rolleyes: :
have You build baseclasses of dxsdk, it's very often is forgotten iirc it's needed

btw can somebody build libavcodec with latest h264 patch ,pls :) , i'm outta luck smthng wrng :mad:

[eb]

http://img129.exs.cx/img129/7744/onliveto0aj.jpg



Using ffdshow + SS2 card + SkyAVC.ax from SkyView program by marfi we can record on live to .avi
In this example it is live record to cropped to 720x416 .avi with original mp2 audio + at the same time recording full "spare" video as mpeg2 to make quality comparison. Procesor Athlon 2200+ was working with 1890MHz with 80-98%.
Samples named as NEO NEKO /why, see the end of the sample/can be found at
ftp://www.eb.enterpol.pl
user name www.eb.enterpol.pl
pass eb


eb

edited
PS Ofcourse we can record to.avi from the SkyView program, but to make some experiments it is easer this way.
Similiar tests can be done with MyTheatre2.76 filter.on another sattv DVB cards
edit2
Another sample with
G day .Live record to .avi

[bond]

seems as if ffmpeg now has the ability to decode avc b-frames correctly! hopefully ffdshow can be updated too soon :)

[Leo 69]

I'm so glad to hear that Bond!Where do you know it from?
Seems like VLC player will be able to handle b-frames too!!!No?
I'm dreaming about it :) At last there'll be a possibility
to decode .mp4 normally without that huge NVE software :D

[bond]

Originally posted by Leo 69
I'm so glad to hear that Bond!Where do you know it from?on the ffmpeg maillist (michael niedermayer said the batch has been added)

Seems like VLC player will be able to handle b-frames too!!!sure, videolan like mplayer and ffdshow uses ffmpeg for decoding avc

I'm dreaming about it :) At last there'll be a possibility
to decode .mp4 normally without that huge NVE softwarewell thats already possible for a long time! .mp4 is nothing only nero uses...
have a look at the mp4 faq i link to in my signature

[Leo 69]

@ Bond

Did Michael tell anything about weighted prediction support?
That would be just perfect :)

[bond]

hm, there seems to be still one issue with b-frames left: the frames get outputted in coding order, not in playing order :(

Originally posted by Leo 69
Did Michael tell anything about weighted prediction support?nope

[CruNcher]

yep b-frames are better now very nice :D

[timeismoney]

Yep, cvs of 20041231 has already support avc b-frames, but with slight shrink/dithering

[CruNcher]

@timeismoney
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[timeismoney]

Selling? I think it must be some mistake in the expression of the intro. "EVALUATION" there not means you have to buy a "FULL" version, it just means it is a unstable version, maybe bugs or lacks in it, so the users should use it as their own risk...I'll tell them to change it.

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So I think we can just take it easy...

And MPC 6483 comes from the CVS, they use celtic_druid's build or compiled it themselves.

PS: I said "They", because I'm the tow pretty girls' teacher.

[Amour]

Originally posted by eb
please visit http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ffdshow/No longer available.
Originally posted by Sharktooth
latest ffdshow versions from celtic druid are mirrored here: http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/celticdruid/ffdshow/
You don't have the 20041231. :(

[akupenguin]

Originally posted by bond
hm, there seems to be still one issue with b-frames left: the frames get outputted in coding order, not in playing order Fixed, at least for the common case.
(H.264 allows arbitrary frame order, not just the simple B-frame delay from ASP. But I don't know any encoders (not even JM) that do that yet.)

[marcellus]

No longer available.
Try again, is still there.
Originally posted by Amour
No longer available.

You don't have the 20041231. :(
The latest celticdruid's compile is still 20041223. Timeismoney talked above about cvs, not a compile.

[timeismoney]

Yes, CVS has some update in h264

http://tinypic.com/162iky

[celtic_druid]

Actually I did one the other day, I just never put it up. Been so many updates lately. I might put one up now. Takes ages to compile though compared to most other stuff.

[bond]

Originally posted by akupenguin
Fixed, at least for the common case.
(H.264 allows arbitrary frame order, not just the simple B-frame delay from ASP. But I don't know any encoders (not even JM) that do that yet.) great! so this means that b-frames are now supported in ffmpeg? :)