ffdshow development #2 [Archive] - Page 12

lithoc

4th March 2005, 22:40

Originally posted by Sirber
What's sad with videolan is no realvideo support :(

That's because VLC entirely only depend on libavcodec for codec support

But libavcodec do have realvideo support but it's very old version

:)

Sirber

4th March 2005, 22:51

That's cool in a way (libavcodec), but my main anime database is in RMVB... :(

Elias

5th March 2005, 01:31

Originally posted by Sirber
That's cool in a way (libavcodec), but my main anime database is in RMVB... :( Well suite your self for choosing a proprietary codec like real :D Stick to MPEG-4 or MPEG-2, or read the g00z capture bible :)

Sharktooth

5th March 2005, 01:52

Real is really good for anime. He made his choice and i think he wont turn back. Some time ago i choosen VP6 + Vorbis for backing up my movies (even 1 crappy HD WMV DVD i could only watch on my PC) and i was more than happy i could use xbox media center to play them back.
Dont think open standards are the best for everything. There could be proprietary codecs that do the job better (look at how light is VP6 to decode for example...).

Sirber

5th March 2005, 03:05

:stupid: :goodpost:

:D

Elias

5th March 2005, 09:31

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Real is really good for anime. He made his choice and i think he wont turn back. Some time ago i choosen VP6 + Vorbis for backing up my movies (even 1 crappy HD WMV DVD i could only watch on my PC) and i was more than happy i could use xbox media center to play them back.
Dont think open standards are the best for everything. There could be proprietary codecs that do the job better (look at how light is VP6 to decode for example...). Well, I'd never choose a proprietary codec. I don't trust them for one second. By the way, check this: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=89851&cid=7759569

Sharktooth

5th March 2005, 14:19

LOL, that's why i use Realalternative :D

Sirber

5th March 2005, 15:59

RealAlternative is crap. Better use Satsuki Decoder Pack.

Anyway, let's not pollute ffdshow thread :devil:

MSlv

5th March 2005, 17:02

I can't play x264 in mp4 container. I used AutoAC to do a short music video and I can't play the final .mp4 file. I tried videolan but it plays jerky. I can only play in Windows media player 9, but not from the begining, I have to move the slider to the left to have video. I used mkvmerge, but it showed an error saying that the video doesn't begin with a keyframe and then something about b-frames.

Does ffdshow decode x264 in mp4 container or not?

Elias

5th March 2005, 17:04

Originally posted by MSlv
I can't play x264 in mp4 container. I used AutoAC to do a short music video and I can't play the final .mp4 file. I tried videolan but it plays jerky. I can only play in Windows media player 9, but not from the begining, I have to move the slider to the left to have video. I used mkvmerge, but it showed an error saying that the video doesn't begin with a keyframe and then something about b-frames.

Does ffdshow decode x264 in mp4 container or not? I think so, it should because ffdshow decodes h.264 or are you using an old version of ffdshow? Maybe x264 isn't MPEG-4 ISO compliant?

MSlv

5th March 2005, 17:22

I/m using the latest ffdshow (2005-03-03)

mezzanine

5th March 2005, 17:35

Originally posted by MSlv
I/m using the latest ffdshow (2005-03-03)

Try Osmo4
http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac

MSlv

5th March 2005, 18:18

it's missing a dll - libmmd.dll.

bond

5th March 2005, 18:32

regarding videolan:
1) dont use the latest official version, its totally outdated
2) if you use a videolan nightly build, i assume that it is still not updated to the latest ffmpeg avc decoder version

x264/ffmpeg is developing so fast, its hard to follow even for people who know the stuff :D

Elias

5th March 2005, 19:01

Originally posted by bond
regarding videolan:
1) dont use the latest official version, its totally outdated
2) if you use a videolan nightly build, i assume that it is still not updated to the latest ffmpeg avc decoder version

x264/ffmpeg is developing so fast, its hard to follow even for people who know the stuff :D Well that's a good thing :) Speaking of the videolan nightly build, is it possible to find changelogs for it?

celtic_druid

5th March 2005, 20:57

Originally posted by MSlv
it's missing a dll - libmmd.dll.

Yeah, I was checking that out the other day and figured out that the reason was that I had obviously compiled js32.dll with ICL. None of the actual gpac files should require libmmd, but most depend on js32.dll. I probably should put a new compile up anyway.

oddball

6th March 2005, 23:26

Anyone know why AC3Filter can pass 44Khz AAC to SPDIF whilst ffdshow's has to be upsampled to 48Khz?

bob0r

11th March 2005, 14:32

Originally posted by celtic_druid
Yeah, I was checking that out the other day and figured out that the reason was that I had obviously compiled js32.dll with ICL. None of the actual gpac files should require libmmd, but most depend on js32.dll. I probably should put a new compile up anyway.

You should indeed :D

A good ffdshow version without any extra files needed, that's what we need, and that's what i been waiting for, for almost a month :eek:

I want to put in on my website, but there seems to be a curse on me when it comes to ffdshow :devil:

celtic_druid

12th March 2005, 00:04

New version of GPAC already went up yesterday.
http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac/dev

bob0r

12th March 2005, 01:30

But we (I) need a good new version of ffdshow, thats what this thread is about :p

celtic_druid

12th March 2005, 02:28

Might be the title of the thread but...

mezzanine said "Try Osmo4"
MSlv, "it's (Osmo4) missing a dll - libmmd.dll."
me, "I know I will do a new compile (of gpac)"
bob0r, "You should indeed (do a new gpac compile)"

ffdshow hasn't really been updated since Milan's last build. However if I have time I will put up a new build anyway.

Yong

13th March 2005, 11:16

Here's reason why Milan haven't put up a new build:
I'm very busy these days and not only by developing ffdshow, where
I'm doing quite big internal changes to allow more flexible filters design
- for example to have subtitles from two displayed at once. It sounds simple,
but to do this properly I had to extensively modify some parts of ffdshow which are there from the beginning and weren't designed with such flexibility in mind.
good news,
ffdshow will be able to decode TTA audio format (http://www.true-audio.com/) at next build, i think:)

Palikrovol

15th March 2005, 00:20

problems with build 20050312 decoding H.264 (Nero Recode).
This build can't decode it.

I'm using MPC and when opening the movie, it keeps in 00:00 minutes (i have press 'play' :)). This happens with some movies.

With this one http://multimediacom.free.fr/Video/NDAVC-600.mp4 (a sample encoded by Sagittaire for the coded comparison in the thread "x264 vs VP70 vs VP62 vs RV10") there is no video at all, only audio.

If i use build 20050303, there is no problem.

Btw. What are the differences between this builds?

bob0r

15th March 2005, 00:27

I can confirm what Palikrovol said, no video visible, even though ffdshow says its decoding video.

... as for AAC+SBR+PS playback, no more libmmd.dll needed, good work! :D

Version used:
http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ > ffdshow > ffdshow-20050312.exe
http://www.aziendeassociate.it/./cd//ffdshow/ffdshow-20050312.exe

Sharktooth

15th March 2005, 01:04

replace libavcodec with this one: http://www.aziendeassociate.com/libavcodec.bpyramid.7z

Xebec

15th March 2005, 03:55

Originally posted by Sharktooth
replace libavcodec with this one: http://www.aziendeassociate.com/libavcodec.bpyramid.7z

Does not work for me. Crashes right in the beginning. Nero decoder works though.

kurt

15th March 2005, 08:21

on my machine it works with sharktooths hint....:D

Ark

15th March 2005, 09:34

It's strange:

- a b-pyramid encode doesn't work (with patched ffdshow)
- no b-pyramid but 16 ref frames doesn't work too (but hasn't this been fixed some rev. ago?)

Obviously the two together doesn't work...

Playback start correctly but as soon as player encounter one b-pyramid predicted frame, crash (MPC one of the lastest versionl, don't remember right now).

iron2000

15th March 2005, 18:57

Can there be a ffdshow lite that contains only video decoders for well-known/most used video codecs + the sharphen, postprocessing..etc?

ffdshow installs at 8.1MB.
Is this the usual size?

Ark

15th March 2005, 23:37

No, it should be around 3mb (if you mean the installer, not the decompressed folder). Where did you get it from?

And ffdshow was decoder only a looong time ago, when there was its encoding counterpart (can't remember the name..), now merged with it, so now it's only in this merged form.

vlada

16th March 2005, 00:01

What I would really appreciate would be a documentation for FFDShow. There are so many functions/switches that it would be really useful. For example I have no idea what "heuristic search" in subtitles filter does. I couldn't find any information about it. Also I have no idea how to set up correctly noise reducion, what is the difference between implemented postprocessing algorithms, I have no info about built-in deinterlace filters etc.
Also I asked in another thread if there is a way to cnotrol saturation, brightnes, gama or aspect ratio using Girder. Most of the time I only can switch on/off some filters. Fortunately I can set up subtitles' size/position which is a very important future for me. But being able to adjust colors would be even better.

Vlada

iron2000

17th March 2005, 13:23

Originally posted by Ark
No, it should be around 3mb (if you mean the installer, not the decompressed folder). Where did you get it from?

And ffdshow was decoder only a looong time ago, when there was its encoding counterpart (can't remember the name..), now merged with it, so now it's only in this merged form.

For the 8.1MB, its the size gotten from the Add/Remove control panel.
Not the installer size.

bond

17th March 2005, 23:18

milan finally updated the ffdshow cvs to the latest ffmpeg sources, i hope we can see a compile soon :)

Hiro2k

18th March 2005, 07:48

Maybe mplayer can finally catch up. :P

rushin_911

20th March 2005, 06:41

Originally posted by bond
milan finally updated the ffdshow cvs to the latest ffmpeg sources, i hope we can see a compile soon :)

I hope so too :)

easyfab

20th March 2005, 13:06

For testing here is the cvs latest libavcodec.dll (athlon-xp optimized)
http://rapidshare.de/files/936283/libavcodec.dll.html
(sorry for the host i don't know free better one)

For me it doesn't bring much more .

Ark

20th March 2005, 13:55

Originally posted by iron2000
For the 8.1MB, its the size gotten from the Add/Remove control panel.
Not the installer size.

Ok, 8mb is about the size of the decompressed ffdshow folder, so it's correct.

rushin_911

21st March 2005, 07:59

Originally posted by easyfab
For testing here is the cvs latest libavcodec.dll (athlon-xp optimized)
http://rapidshare.de/files/936283/libavcodec.dll.html
(sorry for the host i don't know free better one)

For me it doesn't bring much more .

Any possibility of a P4 build :)? (Not Prescott)

easyfab

21st March 2005, 19:32

Originally posted by rushin_911
Any possibility of a P4 build :)? (Not Prescott)

Ok here it is with p4 cflags
http://rapidshare.de/files/952291/libavcodec.dll.html

Palikrovol

21st March 2005, 20:59

can someone, please, mirror them? I can't download from rapidshare :(

Thanks

kurt

21st March 2005, 23:59

@Palikrovol: u have to klick "free" at the bottom of the page and then you have to wait ~60 seconds... finally there will appear a download link (again at the bottom) ...

Palikrovol

22nd March 2005, 00:20

Originally posted by kurt
@Palikrovol: u have to klick "free" at the bottom of the page and then you have to wait ~60 seconds... finally there will appear a download link (again at the bottom) ...

:D Yes i know. But when i press the download link, the first page appears again :confused:

kurt

22nd March 2005, 09:15

did you try "save as"...?

Palikrovol

22nd March 2005, 13:28

Originally posted by kurt
did you try "save as"...?

Yes, it saves the html page.

rushin_911

22nd March 2005, 17:25

Originally posted by easyfab
Ok here it is with p4 cflags
http://rapidshare.de/files/952291/libavcodec.dll.html
Thank you :)

wata

22nd March 2005, 23:20

is there DXVA for ffdshow?

i am able to decode a high resolution divx5 clip using the provide divx player but doesn't have the cpu power when set ffdshow to decode it

there is also a high resolution xvid clip which ffshow don't have cpu power to decode but after changing the fourcc to dx50 i am able to play back without problem

i am using ati radeon with accelerated post-processing turn on
so i am assume this is the dxva

IgorC

24th March 2005, 21:24

When I do Divx3 FFDSHOW encoding at following settings VD just closes.
FFDSHOW last version 12 march. AVS prepared in GK 0.35 . Others videocodec with the same *.avs just work fine (x264, VP7, Xvid). It just crash during the 1-st pass

http://multimediacom.free.fr/Video/FFDSHOW.PNG

PlazzTT

26th March 2005, 01:30

Small bug for me in the March 12th build of the decoder...

The changes I make in the "Aspect ratio" area of the "Resize & Aspect" part of the config seem to be applied whether I have the "Resize & Aspect" box ticked or not?

26th March 2005, 10:12

I have some tough problems.. ever since version 200305XX or something like that, if I try to play file using ffdshow and output set to overlay mixer (using MPC in this case), all I get is gray screen. Now if I go to video driver setup, and check the saturation slider, I see (attached pic). Why does ffdshow mess up my saturation slider, thus messing up whole video? :(

ty

http://dreamy.ws/images/mpc/overlay2.gif

oddball

27th March 2005, 01:10

Is there a way for ffdshow to crop black borders from uncropped encodes? CUrrently I use DiVXG400 to do it as it can crop into the overlay. But it would be great if ffdshow had this ability.