Philips dvp 642

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
I dont think so. OK... I was just checking!

Maybe it's time to start a thread detailing players that can spin MP4 contained encodes!

If we do this I don't mind hosting a collection of short test files.


Cheers

[speed_X]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
OK... I was just checking!

Maybe it's time to start a thread detailing players that can spin MP4 contained encodes!

If we do this I don't mind hosting a collection of short test files.


Cheers

smd-> I've got a Yamada 6600 right here (MT1389DE Chipset) and I'll be glad to run some tests.

[speed_X]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
I dont think so.
I ordered a Yamaha 550 wich seems to be a clone of the Philips 720 without SACD and DD decoder.
But it seems it needs a few weeks to arrive.

Hi Zhnujm:

Please keep us posted on the player. Do you know if it has a 1389EE?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by speed_X
smd-> I've got a Yamada 6600 right here (MT1389DE Chipset) and I'll be glad to run some tests. Yep, I'll be happy to do this as long as Zhnujm and CruNcher are happy with it!

Although there are no official moderators in this section of the forum, when it comes to the MK chipset, they've done (and continue to do) all the work and I think it's right that they agree to it first!

Zhnujm has already reported success with anamorphic AVI encodes on some MK stand-alones but not all. It would be interesting to know if the Yamada is one of them - unless of course Zhnujm and CruNcher know this already!


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Yep, I'll be happy to do this as long as Zhnujm and CruNcher are happy with it!


Why should we not be happy ? And even if we are not, that should noone prevent from doing some tests :D

I am also interested in the results of the Yamada, until now it seems that i am the only one that recognised that ar settings work with some players. Seems that nobody cares about such things.
My observation is that all mediatek players that support subtitles can also read the ar settings in avi files, so it should work with the Yamada.
The playback of the 11.avi and 169.avi that i posted above should be completely different.

Unfortunatly .mp4 files are ignored or not played if renamed to .avi by the players that i tried.

Originally posted by speed_X
Hi Zhnujm:
Please keep us posted on the player. Do you know if it has a 1389EE?

No, i only know that it uses a Mediatek chipset.
But if you say the Philips 720 uses a 1389EE then the Yamaha should also.

[speed_X]

Zhnujm-> I've heard the 720SA has the EE chip. The Yamada 6600 has the DE chipset.

To all:

If everybody agrees I'm game for any tests. If it would help I also have a digital camera I could use to take photos of the playback.

[speed_X]

This was posted by Zhnujm:

I am also interested in the results of the Yamada, until now it seems that i am the only one that recognised that ar settings work with some players. Seems that nobody cares about such things.
My observation is that all mediatek players that support subtitles can also read the ar settings in avi files, so it should work with the Yamada.
The playback of the 11.avi and 169.avi that i posted above should be completely different.

Unfortunatly .mp4 files are ignored or not played if renamed to .avi by the players that i tried.
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I tried the encodes and they do play with correct AR on the Yamada!
However, it doesn't play the renamed .mp4 files.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hello all

Can somebody try playing this file (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/mp4test_SMD.zip) on their DVP642 please.

Just to let you know. With this file I encoded just the 2.35:1 image element from an Mpeg2/DVD source (not the matte) and expanded it to occupy all 720x576 pixels. After encoding I used MPEG4modifier to correct the DAR to 2.35:1.

Although it works for me (with my Xcard), I don't think it will work on the DVP642... If it does though it would be pretty cool.... pretty useless, but pretty cool ;)


Cheers

[speed_X]

Hi All!

The file mp4test_SMD.mp4 doesn't play at all.

[SeeMoreDigital]

speed_X

Can you have a go with this file (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/mp4test_SMD_02.zip) please.

It's been encoded using a different profile.


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by speed_X
I tried the encodes and they do play with correct AR on the Yamada!
However, it doesn't play the renamed .mp4 files.

Did they play the same ? If AR setting is working and your player set to 4:3 the 11.avi should be vertically stretched and 169.avi should be OK (big black bars, 2.35:1 Movie)
Could you post the firmware version ? Just go to setup and press 1 3 6 9


@SeeMoreDigital:
Maybe its because of the DAR setting.
If i use the DAR setting in AVI then the ESS based players i tried did not play the file at all. Only PAR was working (better say ignored).

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
Maybe its because of the DAR setting.
If i use the DAR setting in AVI then the ESS based players i tried did not play the file at all. Only PAR was working (better say ignored). Yes, it must be this... What a shame!

With this in mind, I'll go ahead and generate a series of AVI and MP4 test files. Some encoded using PAR and some encoded using DAR.

How many different makes of chip-sets do we have now?

Maybe it would be useful to start a thread for each chip-set type?

What do you guys think?


Cheers

[Phobos]

hey guys, im curious how did you burn the xcd that played succesfuly? what settings did you use in mode2cdmaker??? i want to start burnin my xcds ASAP :D

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
How many different makes of chip-sets do we have now?


Until now there are only 3 completely different chipset. All have a few variants but they do not differ very much from eachother.
I think we need a bit more competition to speed up things. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Until now there are only 3 completely different chipset. All have a few variants but they do not differ very much from eachother.
I think we need a bit more competition to speed up things. :) I guess these are: MediaTek, ESS and Sigma.... So yes, it is pretty piss poor!

I wonder what happened to the Philips sponsored chip-set we all got excited about last year?


Cheers

[BigLiftsUSC]

do you think the player will ever be able to handle to new features in the xvid codec?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by BigLiftsUSC
do you think the player will ever be able to handle to new features in the xvid codec? That depends! What features are you talking about?


Cheers

[BigLiftsUSC]

Like quater pixel and b-frames?

[speed_X]

Hi!

It won't work with Qpel or GMC but will do bidirectional frames.:D

[snakeman]

Did you guys ever get XCDs burned and working on your DVP642?

Please someone post the setting for creating a image(xcd) that will play in our units. The extra 100 megs would be very nice.


snakeman

[Phobos]

Originally posted by snakeman
Did you guys ever get XCDs burned and working on your DVP642?

Please someone post the setting for creating a image(xcd) that will play in our units. The extra 100 megs would be very nice.


snakeman

im insterested too, i use mode2cdmaker with multitrack or whatever that is, i just use mode2track for the movie and normal for subtitles and ffdshow/3ivx installers, it works well on the computer, how does this player handle multitrack? pls post the settings you guys used to create the xcds

[JJ2335]

I got the philips dvp642 today =P, I can say impressive format support. How does image output look for you guys? I notice video image clipping equally on all sides like being zoomed ~ 110%. I have a standard 4:3 TV.

Also, am I stuck moving down one mp3 in the file menu on my 700MB CD? No next page or jump to track selection?

=( small small sub fonts. on the whole a versatile player w XVID support and apparently divx simple profile playback.

This forum is a great life saver, discovered the video setup> smart picture> personal trick to fix xvid, divx blockyness. Suggestions welcome, thx

[JWillE]

Originally posted by Phobos
im insterested too, i use mode2cdmaker with multitrack or whatever that is, i just use mode2track for the movie and normal for subtitles and ffdshow/3ivx installers, it works well on the computer, how does this player handle multitrack? pls post the settings you guys used to create the xcds

Same here. So far I love this player. It is handling almost my entire collection, but I have had no luck with the xcd's. Is it possibly because I opted to use the DAT extension instead of sticking with the original AVI extension.

[SAPSTAR]

Hi Guys,

I just bought a Philips DVP642, and I encoded few Divx files, but some are working others not....Does somebody know what are the exact rules to make a DivX (I'm using DivX Pro 5.2) in order to be played without pb on the DVP642 ??? (I prefer the DivX-AC3 stuff in general....)

Thanks...

[SeeMoreDigital]

What's the specifications of the files that don't play?

And how do they differ from the files that do play?


Cheers

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
What's the specifications of the files that don't play?

And how do they differ from the files that do play?


Cheers

Well...The ones which are working were : 720x480 - One Pass - AC3 Untouched - Home Theater Profile - Nandub muxing
The ones not working are different for the sizing (resized/cropped with avisynth) - 2 passes - AC downsampled through Besweet....That's it that's all.