DVD ReBuilder (DVD-RB) Frequently Asked Questions

[klemperal]

I donated a while back for RB Pro and over the course of time have had to do multiple fresh installations of windows. upon my last installation, RB Pro informed me that I had exceeded the amount of allowed computer IDs (something along those lines) and RB pro wouldn't run. I sent an e-mail where I was instructed to--how long should I expect to wait until I'll be allowed to run RB Pro again?

[jdobbs]

Sorry, bad timing. You caught me while I was out-of-town for few days and I can't reset your count from here (hitting the key limit is a very rare occurance since it gets reset regularly). You'll get a response later tonight.

[klemperal]

Thanks man. Also, thanks for making such a great program. Nothing else compares when your talking quality, and flexibility.

[jdobbs]

-- :) --

[goshawks]

Back in June, there was this dialogue:

rack04 said:
"So how does one actually run this OPV/CQ and redistribution?"

jdojbs replied:
"You just check the option on the mode menu... It never actually does OPV or CQ except in the analysis (during PREPARE) -- just to equalize quality across the segments -- it is designed for use with normal multi-pass encoding."

I just checked the Mode menu on DVD-RB Pro v1.26.3, and it is not immediately evident to me which is the proper option to check. Could you give the actual line name? (Newbie...) Thanks.

[blutach]

Enable Bitrate Redistribution. And upgrade to 1.26.5

Regards

[samuelal]

Hello.

Dear Mr. jdobbs, thank you very much again for this great program!

I've got a question for you, that I wanted to ask for a long time regarding the redistribution phase, I've searched a bit and didn't find reference so my apologies in advance:

Is it possible when encoding just 1 single large VTS (i.e. "Main Movie" mode) to get the redistribution going on all available CPUs?
Or does this process must remain entirely linear?

Regards,

Samuel.

**subscribed**

[help]

Why is not possible to make a DVD backup with main movie, menu and some extras if they fit on a DVD5 without reencode? Why DVD ReBuilder has to reencode?! I don't get it.

[jdobbs]

Hello.

Dear Mr. jdobbs, thank you very much again for this great program!

I've got a question for you, that I wanted to ask for a long time regarding the redistribution phase, I've searched a bit and didn't find reference so my apologies in advance:

Is it possible when encoding just 1 single large VTS (i.e. "Main Movie" mode) to get the redistribution going on all available CPUs?
Or does this process must remain entirely linear?

Regards,

Samuel.

**subscribed**The redistribution gets completed relatively quickly (5 or 6 minutes) when you use a reasonably small sample size, so I didn't think it would be necessary to split it across CPUs... but I can certainly take a look at it.

[jdobbs]

Why is not possible to make a DVD backup with main movie, menu and some extras if they fit on a DVD5 without reencode? Why DVD ReBuilder has to reencode?! I don't get it. If it will fit, DVD-RB will not reencode. It will simply demux the video, and then remux using only the parts needed.

[help]

I know it won't reencode but it will use CCE when it's not necessary.

For example, if I want to backup the main movie and menu without compression aka 'No Compression (100% video)' DVD ReBuilder won't let me do that. It always use CCE even if know that main movie and menu will fit on a DVD5.

[blutach]

Are you sure its not just doing a demux of the m2vs and a remux? This is done invisibly when stripping audio and subbie streams in editing packages. The process should be quite fast.

Regards

[samuelal]

The redistribution gets completed relatively quickly (5 or 6 minutes) when you use a reasonably small sample size, so I didn't think it would be necessary to split it across CPUs... but I can certainly take a look at it.

Thank you very much, jdobbs for the answer on the multi-threaded redistribution process question.

Currently I use an AMD A64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHz stock), overclocked to 2.43GHz & 2GB RAM running at 486MHz DDR @ 1:1 ratio with the motherboard & a RAID setup for faster preperation/rebuilding times.

Using this setup & the default sample size, for a 105-120Mins movie takes me anywhere between 9-12 Minutes just to finish redistribution.

Faster, Core2Duo or even Core2Quads will finish this substantially faster, no doubt.

I'd really appreciate it if you could look into implementing the same threads detection-&-execution that's done on the encoding process, on the distribution as well.

Regards,

Samuel.

[blutach]

I agree. I have a similar setup to Samuel (except for less RAM and striped HDD) and it takes about 1 minute of preparation for every 10 minutes of video for me, too. I have it set to 10% with low threshold of 85%. A dual core preparation would cut time in half (or, better still, enable 20%).

Regards

[shoarthing]

Thank you very much, jdobbs . . . & a RAID setup for faster preperation/rebuilding times . . . .
. . Using this setup & the default sample size, for a 105-120Mins movie takes me anywhere between 9-12 Minutes just to finish redistribution.(my emphasis) . . . what leads you to believe that simultaneously reading from/writing to a striped 'firmware RAID' array of 2x HDDs [if this is what you have] would be faster than reading from one HDD & writing to another, each on separate SATA channels?

[odin24]

DVD-RB first time user here... nice app and thanks. One question though, is it normal for the DVD5 output to be 2.5GB, or are there other options that I am missing?

Thanks again.

[jdobbs]

Not at all. It should be consistently arount 4.32GB. The exception would be sources that are no full sized. Undersizing usually indicate that the encoder options are not configured properly. If you post your REBUILDER.INI file, I may be able to see what the issue is.

[odin24]

I this what you're asking for?

Mode=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=NO_SELECTION
DVD_Name=NO_SELECTION.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=0
Convert_16_9=0
DisableInterlace=0
ConvertToYUY2=1
CCE=2
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
FFMPEG=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\FFMpeg\ffmpeg.exe
CMDLINE=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\CMDLINE\mencoder.bat
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
NICAUDIO=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\nicaudio.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Working=C:\Videos\DVD-RB\WorkFlow\
Output=C:\Videos\DVD-RB\Output\
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
[Audio]
Selected=
[Subpictures]
Selected=

[jdobbs]

Yes. I don't see anything unusual in there... was the source a commercial disc?

[odin24]

Yup, 7.5GB

[jdobbs]

Just to be sure... you're not using the trial version of CCE Basic are you? It has a limitation on the number of frames it will encode and would cause an undersize.

I've done close to 2000 movies in testing and I've never had an undersize like that...

[odin24]

I'm not using a trial version. Limitation as in up to a certain frame, or randomly skip frames? The whole movie was processed and encoded.

[jdobbs]

It will do a certain number of frames and then exit as if it had completed it all.

Was the source preprocessed, run through other software, or modified in any way?

[odin24]

It was not preprocessed, just ripped to my PC.

[freewheeling]

What do I do with the update zip for DVD Rebuilder Pro?

(I figure if I ask this enough I'll eventually get an answer. I tried searching the forum, but only irrelevant threads pop up, and there's nothing on the so-called "guide" about it, that I can see anyway.)

[jdobbs]

What do I do with the update zip for DVD Rebuilder Pro?

(I figure if I ask this enough I'll eventually get an answer. I tried searching the forum, but only irrelevant threads pop up, and there's nothing on the so-called "guide" about it, that I can see anyway.) I answered you in the other thread. Please be careful as cross posting can result in getting a strike. All you have to do is ask in one place -- you will get an answer.

[freewheeling]

I answered you in the other thread. Please be careful as cross posting can result in getting a strike. All you have to do is ask in one place -- you will get an answer.

If you notice I deleted that other post, because it was in the wrong thread. Ah, well...

Look, I just checked the other thread and you never really answered the question. You just posted some stuff about how the updates weren't intended for noobs like me. I'm getting a little irked at your attitude, sir. I wonder if you'd be willing to refund my money for this product, since you can't even answer a simple question about it without copping an attitude. You have $40 of mine, and I'm the one who deserves to cop an attitude *because I still don't know what to do with the update zip*. It's been less than 30 days (actually less than a week), and I'd prefer to spend the money somewhere else.

(By the way, I never really cared who answered the question. Just thought it was odd that you wouldn't at least put a one sentence "readme" file in the zip, indicating what to do with the updates. This thread is supposedly about a FAQ. Well...?)

[Rippraff]

The update.zip is meant for experienced users who have the very previous version of RB already installed. It contains only updated files compared to the version before (plus some basic files).

If you're new to RB always use the installer version! This is the author's recommendation.

Cu Rippraff

[Guest]

Seems to me freewheeling has the previous version installed and he's asking the simple question of HOW to apply the update files from the ZIP. Seems like a reasonable question. jdobbs did say this in the other thread:

"With the zip you can just replace the existing files in the DVD-RB directory."

It just means one simply uncompresses the ZIP onto the correct path. Do you know how to do that, freewheeling? It's a common operation with ZIP files.

[freewheeling]

Seems to me freewheeling has the previous version installed and he's asking the simple question of HOW to apply the update files from the ZIP. Seems like a reasonable question. jdobbs did say this in the other thread:

"With the zip you can just replace the existing files in the DVD-RB directory."

It just means one simply uncompresses the ZIP onto the correct path. Do you know how to do that, freewheeling? It's a common operation with ZIP files.

Thanks for the response... FINALLY. Yes it is, but I didn't see that response from Mr. Dobbs (perhaps it was further down the line in that very long thread, but I thought I'd read it all the way to the end) and it's something I'd like to ensure with the software provider before actually doing it. Some installations deliberately steer clear of the program files folder because of the "virtual" way Win 7 treats installations. (Not a bad idea, actually.) Since it's information that doesn't actually seem to be provided anywhere else, it might be a good thing to put in a faq, if not in a short readme file in the zip itself. Might have saved a lot of aggravation.

BTW, part if this was that the default "skin" on the program wasn't playing correctly (with progress indicators overlapping and other elements not visible) and it gave me the impression that something was wrong with the installation. I changed to one of the other skins and it seemed to work better.

[freewheeling]

I'm using DVDRebuilder Pro 1.28.2 rebuilding from a rip created using AnyDVD, and then using that rebuild in ImgBurn to create an ISO file to burn a DVD +R. I get the message on my Samsung BD-P4600: "This disc can not be played!" I can play the disc fine using my computer's DVD Drive, as well as a Yamaha standalone DVD drive, but it won't play on my fancy new Samsung Bluray drive. The Samsung will play regular DVDs, BDs, and even backup BDs created using BDRebuilder. But it won't play the backups created using DVDRebuilder.

I'm wondering why not, and is there a parameter that I could set in DVD Rebuilder Pro that would work around this problem?

[jdobbs]

I'm using DVDRebuilder Pro 1.28.2 rebuilding from a rip created using AnyDVD, and then using that rebuild in ImgBurn to create an ISO file to burn a DVD +R. I get the message on my Samsung BD-P4600: "This disc can not be played!" I can play the disc fine using my computer's DVD Drive, as well as a Yamaha standalone DVD drive, but it won't play on my fancy new Samsung Bluray drive. The Samsung will play regular DVDs, BDs, and even backup BDs created using BDRebuilder. But it won't play the backups created using DVDRebuilder.

I'm wondering why not, and is there a parameter that I could set in DVD Rebuilder Pro that would work around this problem? It's likely the media type that is the issue. Are you using DVD-R, DVD+R? Brand? Have you tried more than one? BD Rebuilder outputs to a UDF 2.5 format -- and it's likely it acts differently with standard DVD input.

[freewheeling]

It's likely the media type that is the issue. Are you using DVD-R, DVD+R? Brand? Have you tried more than one? BD Rebuilder outputs to a UDF 2.5 format -- and it's likely it acts differently with standard DVD input.

When I created the ISO image of the DVD with ImgBurn it advised me to set the output to UDF 1.02, so that's what I did (as well as ISO9660). The media I used for that was Vebatim DVD+R 16X.

When I created the ISO image of the BD disc (after using BDRebuilder) I used UDF 2.5, and the media I used was Verbatim DVD+R DL 8X.

The DVDs play in every DVD player I have, even an old Plextor drive that's about 8 years old. But they won't play in that fancy Samsung. The BDs do, though.

Strange.

[jdobbs]

When I created the ISO image of the DVD with ImgBurn it advised me to set the output to UDF 1.02, so that's what I did (as well as ISO9660). The media I used for that was Vebatim DVD+R 16X.

When I created the ISO image of the BD disc (after using BDRebuilder) I used UDF 2.5, and the media I used was Verbatim DVD+R DL 8X.

The DVDs play in every DVD player I have, even an old Plextor drive that's about 8 years old. But they won't play in that fancy Samsung. The BDs do, though.

Strange.
Let's move this conversation to another thread. This sticky is meant for FAQs.

[tennisbgc]

Is there a way to create a custom output size like in bd rebuilder? I like to make backups to be played back on a media player so id like to make the output smaller on some discs.

[jdobbs]

Is there a way to create a custom output size like in bd rebuilder? I like to make backups to be played back on a media player so id like to make the output smaller on some discs.:search:
Look at this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=748168&highlight=hctargetsectors#post748168) and search for "targetsectors" in the DVD Rebuilder sub-forum and you'll find lots of information. If you're using a media player you may also want to consider "Mobile Output" options.

[tennisbgc]

When I was encoding a dvd the compression was all complete but I got an error during the muxing stage and realized I ran out of harddrive space. Is it possible to have dvd rebuilder pick up where it left off since I still have the working folder saved?

[omegaman7]

If you mean the rebuild stage of the process, then you should be able to click rebuild, once there is space on the output drive ;)
If you were in "one click mode" to begin with, I'm afraid I can't help you. I prefer 3 clicks myself :p

[tennisbgc]

If you mean the rebuild stage of the process, then you should be able to click rebuild, once there is space on the output drive ;)
If you were in "one click mode" to begin with, I'm afraid I can't help you. I prefer 3 clicks myself :pThanks.I had it in one click mode. Now Im able to rebuild.

[omegaman7]

3 click mode is highly beneficial. You might consider leaving it there. Especially if you like the following ability:
Once you've prepared the files, you can open this editor. There I suspect you will see the benefits ;)
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww302/omegaman7/Rebuildersegmentviewereditor.png

[topcat888]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if BD Rebuilder capable of utilizing a quad core cpu..??

Thanks

[jdobbs]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if BD Rebuilder capable of utilizing a quad core cpu..??

Thanks Yes, it uses four cores very well. But you'll probably only see 100% usage on pass 2 most of the time.

[topcat888]

Hi jdobbs

Whilst I've got you on the line, can I ask you a question. At present I use a pc with an Intel E8400 cpu (3Ghz dual core) to run BD RB however I have seen some an Intel Q9300 (2.5GHz Quad core) cpu's at reasonable prices...

So the question is, if I buy and install a Q9300 cpu instead will this intern run BD RB at a faster rate because it will be using four cores, or not..??

Many Thanks

[Boulder]

It'll be faster because x264 will use the extra cores quite efficiently.

[manolito]

Excuse me guys, but the last few posts are OT.

This thread is about DVD-Rebuilder, not BD-Rebuilder.

It was suggested a couple of times in the past to make a separate section for BD-Rebuilder, but so far nothing happened. Time to rethink this decision?


Cheers
manolito

[ricoman]

Excuse me guys, but the last few posts are OT.

This thread is about DVD-Rebuilder, not BD-Rebuilder.

It was suggested a couple of times in the past to make a separate section for BD-Rebuilder, but so far nothing happened. Time to rethink this decision?


Cheers
manolito
I suggested that several months ago, but you get nothing but BDRB posts now.

[jdobbs]

Excuse me guys, but the last few posts are OT.

This thread is about DVD-Rebuilder, not BD-Rebuilder.

It was suggested a couple of times in the past to make a separate section for BD-Rebuilder, but so far nothing happened. Time to rethink this decision?


Cheers
manolito I created a BD Rebuilder FAQ -- but I closed it so only a moderator can add things. That was to prevent it from turning into a long discussion thread like this one. The last time a FAQ was discussed in this thread was on page 3 and before that post the last one was on page 1.

It's hard for some folks to distinguish the difference between a "Frequently Asked Question" and "a question".

[a.green817]

why all the inquests the guy has done a super job putting it together and all you lot want to do is try to pull it apart.

[ricoman]

why all the inquests the guy has done a super job putting it together and all you lot want to do is try to pull it apart.

No one is pulling anything apart, we were just asking to separate the topics. Jdobbs has done a terrific job, no one says otherwise. I bought DVDRB years ago and have contributed 3 times to BDRB so he can continue his great work, but the DVDRB FAQ had more questions about BDRB than the former. I use both all of the time.

[nicksteel]

With DVD Rebuilder Pro and film source, is Force Film logic (like in DGIndex) utilized for FILM to reduce file size?

In the past, I would:

Dvdfab main movie
DGIndex (force film, if FILM)
Resize in avs to crop top and bottom
encode with HCEnc as 3:2 pulldown