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lab-one
12th April 2004, 04:51
As per a comment made by insanescape here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=473511#post473511) I am starting a thread to maybe shed some light on the stuttering issue.

To assist jdobbs, please keep comments to a minimum and only post the relative information about your stand alone that is having issues with stuttering...

Stand Alone: Sony DVPNS725P
Plays transcoded discs? Yes
VIDEO Stutters with DVD-RB authored discs? Yes
Tested on other stand alone players? No
Movies tried:
- Ripleys Game - deinterlaced, yes
- Pirates of the Caribbean - deinterlaced, no
- 21 Grams - deinterlaced, no
- Veronica Guerin - deinterlaced, no
- Cold Creek Manor - deinterlaced, no
NTSC, R1
DVD-RB w/cce

wmansir
12th April 2004, 05:03
Player: Apex-500W
Usage: NTSC R1, DVD-RB .31 w/ CCE
Problem: Random video stutter, not just at chapter points. Audio fine.

EDIT: I didn't use Deinterlaced. I think I have noticed this problem with both progressive and interlaced material. I will have to double check in the morning, hopefully I will have a new .34 rebuild done at that time.

quantum
12th April 2004, 05:19
Wether or not you used the optional deinterlacing feature may be important.

Joergen
12th April 2004, 17:02
There might be a field order bug in dvd-rb as discussed here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74257

Although I've yet to come by it.. but PAL interlaced sources only need accurate detection of field order to work right.. so a combination of field-order weirdness might be causing many of the R1 problems.

layer3maniac
13th April 2004, 00:43
Did you all use CCE? The reason I'm asking is this - I was watching a movie only backup of "Runaway Jury" last night, which I made with ReJig alone, NOT DVD-RB, and I noticed some stuttering.

lab-one
13th April 2004, 22:18
@layer3maniac

Yes, using CCE 2.50. Trying CCE 2.66 Trial just to see what happens...

wmansir
15th April 2004, 03:54
Could people in R1 with a PS2 tell me if they encounter the stuttering problem? I searched and found several reports of PAL users who say it works flawlessly, but I was curious about R1.

@lab-one

Did you finish testing 2.66 before overhauling your system? Did you rule it out as fixing your stuttering problem?

lab-one
15th April 2004, 03:57
@wmansir

Yeah, tried 2.66 also. I have also tried 2.5 and 2.66 trial since cleaning up my pc. Both have worked well.

Matrix Revolutions - CCE 2.66 Trial and 2.50 SP
Veronica Guerin - CCE 2.66 Trial and 2.50 SP
Kill Bill Vol. 1 - CCE 2.50

jdobbs
15th April 2004, 14:04
Originally posted by wmansir
Could people in R1 with a PS2 tell me if they encounter the stuttering problem? I searched and found several reports of PAL users who say it works flawlessly, but I was curious about R1. I'm Region-1 -- but this is a good point, are there any PAL users reporting stuttering?

jdobbs
15th April 2004, 14:07
Also as mentioned earlier:

1. Is the stutter R1 only?
2. Is it on telecined only?
3. Is it on CCE encodes, ReJig, or QuEnc?

I'm worn out chasing this thing and need any/all help I get get. Meanwhile, on a positive note, I'm pumping out backups one after another...

WndrBr3d
15th April 2004, 20:20
I get terrible stuttering when backing up my Star Trek Voyager Season 1 DVD set.

I think it has something to do with the .AVS file generated by DVD-RB.

As I reported previously, I encoded the same .AVS file to DivX and saw the stutter. But when I load the VOB manually, and encode using VirtualDubMods built in MPEG2 loader, the video doesnt stutter.

Hope this helps.

Joergen
15th April 2004, 20:27
Originally posted by WndrBr3d
I get terrible stuttering when backing up my Star Trek Voyager Season 1 DVD set.

I think it has something to do with the .AVS file generated by DVD-RB.

As I reported previously, I encoded the same .AVS file to DivX and saw the stutter. But when I load the VOB manually, and encode using VirtualDubMods built in MPEG2 loader, the video doesnt stutter.

Hope this helps.

Try the special test version of 0.38 here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74257&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

jdobbs
15th April 2004, 21:07
Originally posted by WndrBr3d
I get terrible stuttering when backing up my Star Trek Voyager Season 1 DVD set.

I think it has something to do with the .AVS file generated by DVD-RB.

As I reported previously, I encoded the same .AVS file to DivX and saw the stutter. But when I load the VOB manually, and encode using VirtualDubMods built in MPEG2 loader, the video doesnt stutter.

Hope this helps. Some additional information needs to be included in bug reports in order to fix them. In this case I need to know what version are you using?

Alex Z
17th April 2004, 03:32
Originally posted by jdobbs
Some additional information needs to be included in bug reports in order to fix them. In this case I need to know what version are you using?

The latest .039
CCE 2.67
Windvd 4, LiteOn 2001, Sony DVP-NC655P.
"What women want" R1 NTSC.

Someone mentioned it could be the high bitrate. I'll check that. But I don't think so. Many places were stutter was observed were not the high motion scenes. Also .39 output still being reported as 98%-99% film by DVD2AVI. The same timeline from original is 100% film. And the way it changes between Film <-> NTSC it looks very stutter alike.
(It goes like this: Film, film..., ...film then a few NTSC frames).
This maybe just a coincidence.

Can someone also compare the source and RB's output where stutter occurs for this? Thanks.

az

jdobbs
17th April 2004, 03:48
Originally posted by Alex Z
The latest .039
CCE 2.67
Windvd 4, LiteOn 2001, Sony DVP-NC655P.
"What women want" R1 NTSC.

Someone mentioned it could be the high bitrate. I'll check that. But I don't think so. Many places were stutter was observed were not the high motion scenes. Also .39 output still being reported as 98%-99% film by DVD2AVI. The same timeline from original is 100% film. And the way it changes between Film <-> NTSC it looks very stutter alike.
(It goes like this: Film, film..., ...film then a few NTSC frames).
This maybe just a coincidence.

Can someone also compare the source and RB's output where stutter occurs for this? Thanks.

az Download the latest version (0.40) -- I found something that may be the root of the chapter stutters. Also -- I've tried to find a difference in several DVDs when running DVD2AVI and have found none. I also can't imagine how it could. I actually copy the flags from the original and put them back in the newly created disc. That doesn't mean it's impossible, though...

Alex Z
17th April 2004, 05:18
Originally posted by jdobbs
Download the latest version (0.40) -- I found something that may be the root of the chapter stutters. Also -- I've tried to find a difference in several DVDs when running DVD2AVI and have found none. I also can't imagine how it could. I actually copy the flags from the original and put them back in the newly created disc. That doesn't mean it's impossible, though...


I've rebuilt it with .40. DVD2AVI still reports 98%-99% film. Will burn a disk and watch it again.

az

Alex Z
17th April 2004, 15:35
Originally posted by jdobbs
Download the latest version (0.40) -- I found something that may be the root of the chapter stutters. Also -- I've tried to find a difference in several DVDs when running DVD2AVI and have found none. I also can't imagine how it could. I actually copy the flags from the original and put them back in the newly created disc. That doesn't mean it's impossible, though...


The stutter is still there. The bitrate has nothing to do with it. Nor the chapter/cell points. At least in my case. In fact the bitrate meter went to "0" at the trouble scene (around 1:35:10. Sony DVP-NC655P). I'll try a different disk for now.

@jdobbs
Can you try "What women want" R1 NTSC disk to see if the output is correct. I simply need a break from that movie. Can't watch it fo xx times. Or let me know if you need some of the files. I think I can place them on ftp server. Thanks.

az

jdobbs
17th April 2004, 17:45
Originally posted by Alex Z
The stutter is still there. The bitrate has nothing to do with it. Nor the chapter/cell points. At least in my case. In fact the bitrate meter went to "0" at the trouble scene (around 1:35:10. Sony DVP-NC655P). I'll try a different disk for now.

@jdobbs
Can you try "What women want" R1 NTSC disk to see if the output is correct. I simply need a break from that movie. Can't watch it fo xx times. Or let me know if you need some of the files. I think I can place them on ftp server. Thanks.

az It sounds like what you are seeing isn't related at all to the chapter stutter. You may want to redo the whole disc overnight with 0.40 -- I've reasserted the DVD-Compliant flag. As for the difference between the original and DVD-RB, I'm at a loss. DVD-RB does a check frame-by-frame and will kick out an error if it doesn't match. Have you run any other software against it for preprocessing, postprocessing, or removing streams, etc?

DDogg
17th April 2004, 18:23
Alex Z, Just throwing this out - may be worth a try to boost the minimum bitrate via the new feature in .39: (Only after trying what jdobbs said above and only if it does not fix your problem.)

In INI add

[options]
min_bitrate=1000
max_bitrate=9000

jdobbs
17th April 2004, 18:30
Originally posted by DDogg
Alex Z, Just throwing this out - may be worth a try to boost the minimum bitrate via the new feature in .39: (Only after trying what jdobbs said above and only if it does not fix your problem.)

In INI add

[options]
min_bitrate=1000
max_bitrate=9000 1000 is pretty high for minimum. That can steal a lot of bandwidth from the high-demand periods. Remember that many of these discs average about 2500 -- that will look okay if you leave the bottom end open -- but would just about guarantee a bad encode with a minimum of 1000. If you're worried about bottom end I'd never go over a couple of hundred. But that's just me.

Alex Z
17th April 2004, 20:37
Originally posted by jdobbs
It sounds like what you are seeing isn't related at all to the chapter stutter. You may want to so the whole disc overnight with 0.40 -- I've reasserted the DVD-Compliant flag. As for the difference between the original and DVD-RB, I'm at a loss. DVD-RB does a check frame-by-frame and will kick out an error if it doesn't match. Have you run any other software against it for preprocessing, postprocessing, or removing streams, etc?


Nop. Unchanged iso image (7.83Gb).

Just finished another movie using .40. Same results RB's output is 99% film while the same timeline from original is 100% film. Now I'm at lost. Just in case here is my rebuilder.ini file.

[[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\EclCCE.exe
Source=I:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=E:\DVD REBUILDER TEST\DIE_HARD_DISC1\

[Options]
;defaltTargetSectors=2236400
;TargetSectors=2289664
CCETargetSectors=2256400
;ReJigTargetSectors=
;QuEncTargetSectors=
ResampleAudio=0
CCE=1
EncoderMinimized=1
DynamicBitrate=1
RemoveDTS=1
ConvertToYUY2=1
AudioDub=0
NoWarn=1
OneClick=1

[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=10
Quality_prec=24
eclPasses=2

[Setup]
FilmThreshold=285
Language11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111011111111111111111111111111111111111111111111



az

Alex Z
17th April 2004, 20:43
Originally posted by jdobbs
1000 is pretty high for minimum. That can steal a lot of bandwidth from the high-demand periods. Remember that many of these discs average about 2500 -- that will look okay if you leave the bottom end open -- but would just about guarantee a bad encode with a minimum of 1000. If you're worried about bottom end I'd never go over a couple of hundred. But that's just me.

Will try with 1000 just to see if it will somehow "fix" this.

jdobbs
17th April 2004, 22:12
Originally posted by Alex Z
Will try with 1000 just to see if it will somehow "fix" this. Please remember not to leave it there. I have a feeling I'm going to regret implementing those settings:(

DDogg
17th April 2004, 22:13
Will try with 1000 just to see if it will somehow "fix" this. Yes, that is what I was suggesting as a quick test, but jdobbs is absolutely correct that it would waste a lot of the meager bitrate we have to work with. I should have been more clear that it is only for a test. If it did by any chance fix the problem, then you would start dialing it down to something more realistic.

Jdobbs beats his dogg :o

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:19
Originally posted by Alex Z
The stutter is still there. The bitrate has nothing to do with it. Nor the chapter/cell points. At least in my case. In fact the bitrate meter went to "0" at the trouble scene (around 1:35:10. Sony DVP-NC655P). I'll try a different disk for now.

@jdobbs
Can you try "What women want" R1 NTSC disk to see if the output is correct. I simply need a break from that movie. Can't watch it fo xx times. Or let me know if you need some of the files. I think I can place them on ftp server. Thanks.

az I think I know what this is. You are seeing the infamous "layer break" Next time you watch it note the time. Then if you use IFOEDIT and look at the IFO you'll see it labeled as a "layer break". I just repeated it. The bitrate on my JVC player drops to "--" as it happens (that's because of the discontinuity). Setting the minimum bitrate won't help this... I recommend you leave it at the default.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:23
Originally posted by jdobbs
I think I know what this is. You are seeing the infamous "layer break" Next time you watch it note the time. Then if you use IFOEDIT and look at the IFO you'll see it labeled as a "layer break". I just repeated it. The bitrate on my JVC player drops to "--" as it happens (that's because of the discontinuity). Setting the minimum bitrate won't help this... I recommend you leave it at the default. I will see what I need to do to remove it. There are some threads on the subject here on Doom9.

wmansir
18th April 2004, 01:31
grr..I just did a CBR encode, just to make sure it wasn't a bitrate max/min issue (plus I wanted a 'quick' encode). But it looks like my only DVD+RW just died. I'm trying to do a full format,(it doesn't look good) but even if it works I won't trust it enough to test out the stuttering issue. I have a couple of Riteks G04's I burned before I learned of this problem, so I know it's wasn't always a media issue.

OT:
If anyone knows an online (USA) store where I can pick up 1-5 DVD+/-RWs without getting killed on price or shipping, PM me.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:53
Originally posted by wmansir
grr..I just did a CBR encode, just to make sure it wasn't a bitrate max/min issue (plus I wanted a 'quick' encode). But it looks like my only DVD+RW just died. I'm trying to do a full format,(it doesn't look good) but even if it works I won't trust it enough to test out the stuttering issue. I have a couple of Riteks G04's I burned before I learned of this problem, so I know it's wasn't always a media issue.

OT:
If anyone knows an online (USA) store where I can pick up 1-5 DVD+/-RWs without getting killed on price or shipping, PM me. I'm confident it isn't a min/max issue. I thing that's a red herring.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:56
Originally posted by wmansir
grr..I just did a CBR encode, just to make sure it wasn't a bitrate max/min issue (plus I wanted a 'quick' encode). But it looks like my only DVD+RW just died. I'm trying to do a full format,(it doesn't look good) but even if it works I won't trust it enough to test out the stuttering issue. I have a couple of Riteks G04's I burned before I learned of this problem, so I know it's wasn't always a media issue.

OT:
If anyone knows an online (USA) store where I can pick up 1-5 DVD+/-RWs without getting killed on price or shipping, PM me. I get my DVD+RWs at Wal-Mart, Memorex, I think it was $10.00 for 3 of them. I've been burning and burning and burning and have never had one fail yet.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:58
Oh yeah, I also got a pack of 5 TDK DVD+RWs at Target for $16.00.


EDIT: Corrected the price.

Alex Z
18th April 2004, 03:48
Originally posted by jdobbs
I will see what I need to do to remove it. There are some threads on the subject here on Doom9.


Maybe it's good to remove it. But I feel this will not solve the problem completely. The layer brake in my case located approx. 30min apart from that scene. What’s funny, my Liteon2001 plays fine that part. But less noticeable stutter observed along the movie on both machines. What puzzles me more is the DVD2AVI reports 99% film. This is the second movie done with DVD-RB that shows this anomaly. Could it be something wrong in my setup?

az

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 04:07
Originally posted by Alex Z
Maybe it's good to remove it. But I feel this will not solve the problem completely. The layer brake in my case located approx. 30min apart from that scene. What’s funny, my Liteon2001 plays fine that part. But less noticeable stutter observed along the movie on both machines. What puzzles me more is the DVD2AVI reports 99% film. This is the second movie done with DVD-RB that shows this anomaly. Could it be something wrong in my setup?

az Could you create two D2V files from the original and the DVD-RB copy and send them to me?

Alex Z
18th April 2004, 04:19
Originally posted by jdobbs
Could you create two D2V files from the original and the DVD-RB copy and send them to me?

Can you PM your email address?

or
I can paste here one cell of original and RB about 13kb each.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 04:30
I have one now that doesn't match. Are you talking about the final "FINISHED" line at the end of the file?

Alex Z
18th April 2004, 04:36
Originally posted by jdobbs
I have one now that doesn't match. Are you talking about the final "FINISHED" line at the end of the file?


I'm not sure what you mean. The diff . I see is

-Video Type
-Playback#
-Timestamp

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 05:13
Originally posted by Alex Z
I'm not sure what you mean. The diff . I see is

-Video Type
-Playback#
-Timestamp If you look at the final line of the D2V file it shows a total...

By the way, thanks for the very constructive input. :)

This has shown some interesting stuff... I'm investigating. You should hear more tomorrow.

DDogg
18th April 2004, 06:26
Originally posted by jdobbs -I'm confident it isn't a min/max issue. I thing that's a red herring. Speaking of dead fish, or maybe, "something that walks like a duck", I find it interesting that matrix revolution has 3 or 4 killer bitrate peaks in the first 1 minute. My old Apex glitches precisely at the start of each of them and then continues fine. The encode was done with a 10 bias and 0-9000 and these are instantaneous peaks from 0 to 9800 within 2 or 3 frames. Gee, do I hear something quacking?

I'll redo the encode tonight with a higher bias and 300-7500 to see whether the noise is fish or fowl. :eek:

Alex_Rowe
18th April 2004, 07:56
No more "Sttuter" on v0.40.

CCE:2.67
Eclcce: 1.81b
Movie: Lord of the Rings Two Towers NTSC
Player: LG Standalone

Until version .39, there the "stuttering" at the begining of each chapter was present, but on v0.40. finaly it no longer exists. But one problem that wasn´t present came instead: The Time Display on the Dvd LED (Display) isn´t consistent between chapters... Example: Chapter 3 ends on 12:31 and chapter 4 starts on 11:15.
The fast foward and rewind navigation on the movie doesn´t seem to be affected, only the time display isn´t accurate.

JDobbs, Thanks for this exelent program! :)

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 10:57
Originally posted by DDogg
Speaking of dead fish, or maybe, "something that walks like a duck", I find it interesting that matrix revolution has 3 or 4 killer bitrate peaks in the first 1 minute. My old Apex glitches precisely at the start of each of them and then continues fine. The encode was done with a 10 bias and 0-9000 and these are instantaneous peaks from 0 to 9800 within 2 or 3 frames. Gee, do I hear something quacking?

I'll redo the encode tonight with a higher bias and 300-7500 to see whether the noise is fish or fowl. :eek: Make sure you also post the result if it barks like a dog. Either way it would be a CCE issue... if you set a maximum bitrate of 9000 you should never see a value over 9000.

Fr4nz
18th April 2004, 11:12
Originally posted by DDogg
Speaking of dead fish, or maybe, "something that walks like a duck", I find it interesting that matrix revolution has 3 or 4 killer bitrate peaks in the first 1 minute. My old Apex glitches precisely at the start of each of them and then continues fine. The encode was done with a 10 bias and 0-9000 and these are instantaneous peaks from 0 to 9800 within 2 or 3 frames. Gee, do I hear something quacking?

I'll redo the encode tonight with a higher bias and 300-7500 to see whether the noise is fish or fowl. :eek:

DDogg recommended values for bias are between 20 (suggested for low bitrates) and 30 (for high bitrates). Personally I used 25 for Matrix Revolution (PAL) and the encoded result was VERY good.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 11:24
Originally posted by Fr4nz
DDogg recommended values for bias are between 20 (suggested for low bitrates) and 30 (for high bitrates). Personally I used 25 for Matrix Revolution (PAL) and the encoded result was VERY good. He makes a good point. I think in version 0.42 I will set the default to 25. Reading the text below from the CCE manual you'd have a higher probability of large bitrate fluctuations at lower settings -- but lower values will also have a smaller lower Q fluctuation:

"The encoder allocates bits based on the original evaluation standard, so that all images have the same visual quality. Changing the value of the Bias part breaks into this evaluation standard. 0 to 100 can be set here. The initial value is 30. As the value becomes smaller, more bits are allocated to complicated scenes, and at value 0, the bitrate fluctuation is largest."


ADDED LATER: Interesting. I'd already set my value to 25 in the INI file.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 12:05
One way to answer this conclusively if you are using one of the SP versions of CCE and you still have the directory created by DVD-RB (after phase II)...

First find out which .AVS has the offending section of the movie in it and remember the name

1. Open up a new text file with notepad.
2. Open the REBUILDER.ECL file.
3. Cut and past the first 3 lines (the header and one blank line) into the text file.
4. Go down through the entries (each starts with [Item] and ends just before the next [Item]) and select the entry that represents the offending section of the movie.
5. Cut and paste that section into the text file.
6. Save the text file at "test.ecl"
7. Drag and drop "test.ecl" into CCE.
8. Double-click on the file in CCE and encoder settings will come up.
9. Click on the "Advanced" or "Bit Allocation" button (it depends on the version.
10. The tables at the bottom will tell you the maximum bitrate applied, you can also scroll through the entire stream and see the relationship of bitrate and Q.

Fr4nz
18th April 2004, 12:58
Originally posted by jdobbs
He makes a good point. I think in version 0.42 I will set the default to 25. Reading the text below from the CCE manual you'd have a higher probability of large bitrate fluctuations at lower settings -- but lower values will also have a smaller lower Q fluctuation:

[CUT]

ADDED LATER: Interesting. I'd already set my value to 25 in the INI file.

So Jdobbs I suggest you to set in DVD-RB, as default, vbr_bias to 25 (instead of 10) and Quality_prec 15 (instead of 24). They were suggested also in CCE forum.

An another nice thing would be to reduce steps between the values we can choose. For example for vbr_bias we have steps of 5 units (15,20,25,etc.) which is too much IMHO. Same thing for Quality_prec.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 13:05
Originally posted by Alex Z
Maybe it's good to remove it. But I feel this will not solve the problem completely. The layer brake in my case located approx. 30min apart from that scene. What’s funny, my Liteon2001 plays fine that part. But less noticeable stutter observed along the movie on both machines. What puzzles me more is the DVD2AVI reports 99% film. This is the second movie done with DVD-RB that shows this anomaly. Could it be something wrong in my setup?

az Alex Z -- thanks for a good piece of detective work in using DVD2AVI. I've found a bug related to this and it will be posted as a part of 0.42. I'm not 100% sure it is what you've identified as your problem -- but it probably is. It definitely is the reason you're seeing inconsistency between DVD2AVI results.

DDogg
18th April 2004, 15:03
Originally posted by Fr4nz - DDogg[,] recommended values for bias are between 20 (suggested for low bitrates) and 30 (for high bitrates). Personally I used 25 for Matrix Revolution (PAL) and the encoded result was VERY good. Fr4nz and all, yep, that is where I was going. My concern is attempting to diagnose problems reported, especially with default values. One of DVD-rb's main target audiences is inexperienced people who want a simple solution to DVD backup.People experienced with CCE understand the effects of bias values, but many inexperienced people depend on the defaults.

The default of 10 may contribute to some of the reports and that's the only one that is important when first diagnosing a problem. The word "stuttering" can mean different things to different people. Jdobbs has dealt with, one by one, quite a few things that fixed individual reports of "stuttering" each of which had nothing to do with other reports of "stuttering". My thinking was that a few of these lingering reports may be caused by "peak bitrate glitching", especially on older players that have 2x readers and cannot deal with an instantaneous bitrate peak of too high a peak value.

jdobbs, I'll spend some time comparing the bitrate peaks of the two encodes and test todays on my old apex 503. I suspect it will not glitch with the larger bias value, but will let you know for sure. Certainly the default value should be increased to the 20-25 range.

Alex Z
18th April 2004, 15:39
Originally posted by jdobbs
Alex Z -- thanks for a good piece of detective work in using DVD2AVI. I've found a bug related to this and it will be posted as a part of 0.42. I'm not 100% sure it is what you've identified as your problem -- but it probably is. It definitely is the reason you're seeing inconsistency between DVD2AVI results.

Sorry for the delayed answer. Here is the both d2v's
Hope this will help.

Original
7 6 2D77B 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 6 2D7B7 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 6 2D7EC 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 6 2D813 2 3 0 1 2 3 0
7 6 2D82C 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2D868 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2D881 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2D98C 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2DAA5 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2DBB9 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2DCD0 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2DDE4 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 6 2DED6 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 6 2DFBC 2 3
7 6 2E016 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0
7 6 2E0AC 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0
7 6 2E0BF 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0
7 6 2E0E6 1 2 3 0 1 9

FINISHED


DVD-RB
7 3 43DE4 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43E16 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43E44 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43E72 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43E9F 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43EC9 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0
7 3 43EEF 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 3 43F12 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 3 43F35 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 43F4E 3 0 1 2
7 3 43F62 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 43F94 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 4404D 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 440D8 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 44160 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 441E3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 44266 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 442E6 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3
7 3 44367 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 3 443EF 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 3 44412 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2
7 3 4442D 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 9

FINISHED



az

DDogg
18th April 2004, 15:46
btw, the INI entry "max_bitrate=7500" is not being transfered to the ECL. Min_bitrate is being transferred. (value was for testing purposes ONLY. Do not use for encoding)

Fr4nz
18th April 2004, 15:52
So the max_bitrate parameter doesn't work? It was useful...

Alex Z
18th April 2004, 16:19
Originally posted by Fr4nz
So the max_bitrate parameter doesn't work? It was useful...

Edit rebuilder.ecl in notepad. Replace vbr_brate_max=9000 with vbr_brate_max=xxxx (where xxxx is desired bitrate). Do it at your own risk.:rolleyes:

DDogg
18th April 2004, 16:32
Alex Z, the point was that it is not working :)