Are there any decent free 'Popup Killers'? (And other web site related stuff)

[stax76]

I have a 5 buttons wheel mouse :D , but how am I gonna use the third button/wheel in Firefox? What I found now is wheel and Shift is equal to Alt + Left/Right

[avih]

use middle button click on links to open in a new tab. u can also make it open in the BG (configurable from tools->options->advanced->browsing).

another place with tons of config options is to type 'about:config' in the address bar. have a look at the faq and tips (start here (http://texturizer.net/firefox/)).

[sysKin]

Hey,
Since it's on topic, new development version of original mozilla (http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7a/)was just released.

Changelog (http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla1.7a/README.html#new) mentions extended popup killer, which allows you to browse popups killed and, if you decide to, show them anyway.
Pretty cool - if only I wasn't using Firefox ;)

Radek

[diogo6]

this is gonna sound stupid, but what's the shortcut for the "open address" on firefox, I mean like the Ctrl+O in IE.

thanks,

by the way, I love firefox so far

[Neo Neko]

Oddly enough it is CTRL+O. ;)

[port66]

Proxomitron - made the ultimate filter file for it :)

[diogo6]

@Neo Neko

that's what I was hoping for, but when I press Ctrl+O, it tries to open a "file", not an "address"... can somebody help me out with this one?

[communist]

In Mozilla 1.5 its :
CTRL + Shift + L

[avih]

ALT-d will also work. F6 might do that as well. pls refer to my previous post regarding the faq/tips site. it also has keyboard shortcuts.

[diogo6]

@communist: thanks, but I was looking for a firefox shortcut, thanks anyways...

@avih: cool, they both work the way I wanted, thanks a lot

[duartix]

After 30 minutes of use, I'm another convert :o!
How was it possible to keep IE :devil: :devil: :devil: for so long?
There is just one thing I can't do yet. Use Flashget's (right click) context menus like Download by Flashget or Download All by Flashget (most useful this one).

[Eyes`Only]

In regards to the original question:

I've used popupcop for quite a while (not free though, just a mention because I believe it to be better than anything, including Firefox's popup blocker). I used to believe Google's toolbar was 'all that you needed'. Then, one day while feeling secure, I stumbled across a website which in a matter of a few seconds installed several adware/spyware apps into my computer before I could shut it down. They went right thru the Google popup blocker. Took me 3 reboots and a LOT of registry edits to remove it all (yes, both adaware and spybot didn't do a good job).

That being said, I now use Avant because of many of the pro-IE reasons stated previously by other users (mostly compatibility, and liking to stick with the industry standard since I support endless end-users) as well as it's integrated ad-blocker and popup-blocker. I've talked with users that use Firefox and compared our findings on popuptest.com. The findings were surprising... Avant failed to stop one popup that Firefox was able to remove, yet Avant stopped one popup that Firefox let thru. Tie score.

The author of Avant has also taken note of popuptest.com and has mentioned to the masses that he intends to make his app catch and block every single test (how's that for support!?) so I can't wait to see what's next!

As for features, it basically has it all.. ad-blocking, popup-blocking, tabbed windows, built-in google toolbar, language translation, ability to save opened windows when closing so next time you open it all your current webpages are revisited, minimize to systray, middle-click opens in new window, powerful new additions to current features such as the favorites menu and shortcut mouse behaviors, etc.

If you've been burned in the past with Netscape like me (anyone remember 1996-1997? I can't count the number of Netscape BSODs I experienced, and I think I remember reinstalling my OS several times due to their app also), then I'd suggest at look at this absolutely-no-relation-to-Mozilla app. You basically won't feel like you are using a new browser so it's very easy to adapt to, and once you get used to the new features, you'll wonder why it took you so long to find this app!

Sorry it's not just a free popup blocker addon like you requested, but it is free, and it blocks popups better than anything except popupcop (People have asked the author of popupcop to make his app work with Avant but he insists it's the Avant's author's issue).

port66: sure wouldn't mind using Avant with proximitron but I haven't figured out how to do it yet... tried it once but must have done something wrong. Do you know if it can be done?

uli: been trying to find good proxy filters too, thanks for the suggestions, I'll be trying all of them tommorrow!

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
In regards to the original question:

I've used popupcop for quite a while (not free though, just a mention because I believe it to be better than anything, including Firefox's popup blocker). I used to believe Google's toolbar was 'all that you needed'. Then, one day while feeling secure, I stumbled across a website which in a matter of a few seconds installed several adware/spyware apps into my computer before I could shut it down. They went right thru the Google popup blocker. Took me 3 reboots and a LOT of registry edits to remove it all (yes, both adaware and spybot didn't do a good job).

That alone is a ringing endoresment for gecko or Khtml based browsers. You don't have to have a popup for a site to install spyware though IE. That can happen just by opening the page. You do on the other hand have to have a miracle to do the same via gecko or Khtml.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


That being said, I now use Avant because of many of the pro-IE reasons stated previously by other users (mostly compatibility, and liking to stick with the industry standard since I support endless end-users) as well as it's integrated ad-blocker and popup-blocker.

Well I think it has been shown time and time again that pretty much every "pro-IE reason" has been shown to be basically baseless here and in most other threads. IE a myth or misconception. And to be fully correct you are not sticking with the industry standard you are sticking with the "defacto" monopoly standard. By embracing IE most people have abandoned the industry standards. The industry standard being that set by the W3C. And not the one by the userper.

In terms of compatability I am always keen to see a so-called mozilla-killa page. They are quite rare. And 9 times out of 10 are due to poor design skills or frontpage. So if you have any examples handy please post them. And in exchange I will show you a page that IE renders wrong. See this page here? IE has rendered it wrong! :D And oddly enough it is basically standards compliant in every way. Even the part IE renders wrong. ;)

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


I've talked with users that use Firefox and compared our findings on popuptest.com. The findings were surprising... Avant failed to stop one popup that Firefox was able to remove, yet Avant stopped one popup that Firefox let thru. Tie score.

Superficially it may be a tie. But to be quite honest the only place I have seen the mouseover popup in action was at popuptest.com. So I would have to say that it is quite likely very rare. Out of curiosity which one did avant fail? Chances are it is more common.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


The author of Avant has also taken note of popuptest.com and has mentioned to the masses that he intends to make his app catch and block every single test (how's that for support!?) so I can't wait to see what's next!

As far as support goes it's quite good. Far better than Microsoft. But not quite as good as the Mozilla or perhaps KDE groups. Unfortunatly with avant using such a poor base it is highly unlikely that it will ever be on par.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


As for features, it basically has it all.. ad-blocking, popup-blocking, tabbed windows, built-in google toolbar, language translation, ability to save opened windows when closing so next time you open it all your current webpages are revisited, minimize to systray, middle-click opens in new window, powerful new additions to current features such as the favorites menu and shortcut mouse behaviors, etc.

How is it for cookie blocking? If it is anything like it's base then it is nothing to write home about. Which after popup blocking and the ability to block silent adware/spyware installs(IE is the only browser suceptable to this anyway) is the most important feature of a browser to me.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


If you've been burned in the past with Netscape like me (anyone remember 1996-1997? I can't count the number of Netscape BSODs I experienced, and I think I remember reinstalling my OS several times due to their app also), then I'd suggest at look at this absolutely-no-relation-to-Mozilla app.

Well first of all you are perpetuating the myth that Mozilla==Netscape which is false. Netscape is based on Mozilla to be sure. But they are still very distinct products. Where netscape was/is driven and dictated by a corporate entity. The Mozilla group is by and large dictated to and driven by it's users/developers which happen to often be the same people.

I used Netscape since the early 2.0 versions. Say 1993-1994 or so. And I have to say that 4.0 was pretty piss poor and practically killed Netscape off. But I am not so jaded to believe that Mozilla is the same thing as Netscape. Mozilla represents a major revision over Netscape 4. In fact the only thing that is similar in Netscape 4 and Mozilla is the default interface. Everything under the hood is basically 100% different. Especially the core components.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


You basically won't feel like you are using a new browser so it's very easy to adapt to, and once you get used to the new features, you'll wonder why it took you so long to find this app!

Last I checked IE's interface has always been based on Netscape. Back forward, refresh, stop, url bar, throbber. Where do they deviate in any major way?

Originally posted by Eyes`Only


Sorry it's not just a free popup blocker addon like you requested, but it is free, and it blocks popups better than anything except popupcop (People have asked the author of popupcop to make his app work with Avant but he insists it's the Avant's author's issue).

I will agree with you it is worlds better than stock IE. And that if someone does not switch to Mozilla, firefox, opera, konqueror, safari, etc that they should at least use it. But it still has major issues and vulnerabilities.

[Eyes`Only]

see, what I did was try to answer the original poster's real request (rule 3), which although was never said, was in fact, "..decent free 'Popup killers' (that work with IE)". Actually wmansir did mention it in one of the earliest replies but it was pretty much ignored IMO

And no, sorry to ruin your flame, but I'm not going to reply to your IE-hatred remarks... find another lacky. I didn't post to argue the better browser, I posted because the poster's question was never answered. And I'm not about to join the flamers, though if someone wants to discuss the topic, I'm up for that. Hint: this would mean arguing a different popup-blocker that works with IE that's better than popupcop, or a better IE-based add-on (MyIE2 for instance, which although it has a lot of good features such as plug-ins still doesn't "feel" as nice as Avant). I still think PopupCop is #1, but alas, it doesn't work with Avant :(

[wmansir]

I'm glad to see someone else who likes Avant browser. I wouldn't even consider switching if it weren't for the fact that I'm one of the unfortunate people who are hit by the CPU exit bug (Closing the browser makes the process go to 100% CPU usage and has to be killed in TaskMan.) It happens 1 out of 5-10 times on my system, but the author is unable to reproduce it so it has not been fixed. It has been over 6 months and I'm just getting sick of waiting.

As far as IE compatibility, I understand that Mozilla follows the specs and IE does not, but I find many more pages that don't display "correctly" (according to the wishes of the author) with Mozilla than with IE. For instance I can't use Firebird to setup my Belkin router because some of the buttons don't work. I have to switch to IE. I know this is due to improper coding, but that doesn't help me setup my router.

[Eyes`Only]

Damn, sorry to hear that... hope the author can find a fix for you.

uli: proxomitron is the winner! I tried all the apps you suggested and proxomitron was the best by far! It was even able to remove the annoying drop down ad like you see on dvd2svcd.org and the sticky ad on geocities-type sites! Thank you thank you thank you!

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
see, what I did was try to answer the original poster's real request (rule 3), which although was never said, was in fact, "..decent free 'Popup killers' (that work with IE)". Actually wmansir did mention it in one of the earliest replies but it was pretty much ignored IMO

That's all good and fine. Though even those who speak of opera and Mozilla are technically on topic.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only

And no, sorry to ruin your flame, but I'm not going to reply to your IE-hatred remarks... find another lacky.

:eek: :confused: That was not a flame. I am actually interested in a constructive debate if possible. Perhaps I responded in a to familliar manner. If that is the case I sincerely appologise as it was not my intention. I admit I have no love for IE. It has burned me so much more than any version of netscape ever has. I suppose I should not have responded to your few anti-netscape remarks.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only

I didn't post to argue the better browser, I posted because the poster's question was never answered.

That is up to the poster to decide. And I got the impression that he was basically satsified as of some time ago. Oh and to arguing the better browser to me it already looked as if you were. Sorry if I missunderstood you.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only

And I'm not about to join the flamers,

Inadvertantly you already had. Though not on purpose. We both have strong feelings and oppinions.

Originally posted by Eyes`Only

though if someone wants to discuss the topic, I'm up for that. Hint: this would mean arguing a different popup-blocker that works with IE that's better than popupcop, or a better IE-based add-on (MyIE2 for instance, which although it has a lot of good features such as plug-ins still doesn't "feel" as nice as Avant). I still think PopupCop is #1, but alas, it doesn't work with Avant :(

I am somewhat sorry you feel that way. I was actually quite interested to find out what popup Avant failed on. I have so few windows PC's and it would be quite inconvinient to track one down and install Avant just to find out on my own. In regards to my comments to your off topic comments just disregard them I suppose. Thankyou for the popuptest site link though. I had not seen that before.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by wmansir

As far as IE compatibility, I understand that Mozilla follows the specs and IE does not, but I find many more pages that don't display "correctly" (according to the wishes of the author) with Mozilla than with IE.

Mozilla follows the specs yes. It has however implemented much of the bits purposefully broken by programs such as frontpage to make pages IE specific. Such as incorrect folder delimeters(ie http://somesite.com/dir\page.html) and special character substitutions where IE specific authoring software make substitutions for some common special characters(like " or ') to a non standard windows code page map so that pages only look right when rendered with Microsoft software. The character map issue has been known to cause general layout and script failures in all non Microsoft software. There is no real reason for Microsoft to have done that. They just did. :(

Originally posted by wmansir

For instance I can't use Firebird to setup my Belkin router because some of the buttons don't work. I have to switch to IE. I know this is due to improper coding, but that doesn't help me setup my router.

Sorry to hear that. Have you checked for a firmware update? I am lucky I suppose that my linksys products are well designed and tested. But belkin is not some crap product either. If they have not addressed this simple issue in a firmware update that would be inexcusable for a company as well known as belkin. Chances are someone already told them. But a reminder may not be a bad idea. It should be something quite simple for them to fix. A stupid mistake as it were. I hope you find some satisfactory resolution.

[snowcrash]

Originally posted by wmansir
As far as IE compatibility, I understand that Mozilla follows the specs and IE does not, but I find many more pages that don't display "correctly" (according to the wishes of the author) with Mozilla than with IE.

Exactly. Mozilla may be more standards-compliiant but in the end, you will have a better chance of seeing pages display as the designer intended by using IE because the vast majority of web designers concentrate their efforts on IE. It's just a fact of life, like it or not.

[snowcrash]

I have a question about the pop-up blocker in Firefox. In Google's pop-up blocker, it gives you a visual and audio cue whenever a pop-up is blocked and then if necessary, you can go back and allow the pop-up by holding Ctrl and clicking the link.

Does Firefox have either of these capabilities? I haven't been able to find any options for this in Firefox, maybe I'm missing something or maybe there's some extension (or whatever it's called) that will provide this?

[sysKin]

Originally posted by snowcrash
Does Firefox have either of these capabilities? I haven't been able to find any options for this in Firefox, maybe I'm missing something or maybe there's some extension (or whatever it's called) that will provide this? An exclamation mark on left-down edge of the window (firefox) or right-down edge (mozilla). If a popup is blocked, the excalamation will be red. Click on it to see the list of blocked popups and enable them for the future, if you want to. Mozilla 1.7a also gives you an option to show the blocked popup (haven't seen that myself, just read about it).

Radek

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by snowcrash
Exactly. Mozilla may be more standards-compliiant but in the end, you will have a better chance of seeing pages display as the designer intended by using IE because the vast majority of web designers concentrate their efforts on IE. It's just a fact of life, like it or not.

I'll say it again. The burden of proof is on you. Prove it. Because it is not a fact of life. It is a forced perception that slows the adoption of competing products. Show me some sites and I will show you as many or more that disprove you.(hint: you are looking at one) I know lots of web designers. And not one of them designs for IE only. Let alone a single version of IE! Most of them have IE 4, 5, and 6 all installed for testing purposes. Not to mention Netscape 4+, Mozilla, and Opera 5+. Now if we are talking the average geocities or tripod page I might concur. Their skills are very nonexistant. But your average professionaly designed page is well tested. And will render good in any browser. And the new catch phrase "degrade gracefully" in IE. The sign of a superior product. ;)

On the pop-up blocker issue syskin is correct. In fact the first time or two it blocks a popup it pops up a dialog telling you exactly what is going on and how to pop up the pop up if you wish it. Also you can add sites as exemptions to the popup blocking.

[snowcrash]

@neo neko

Take a look at this screenshot:

http://s92093572.onlinehome.us/images/vbulletin.jpg

That is replying to a PM in vBulletin. I'd give you the link but you'd have to register to test it, so take my word for it. I'll find more and post links for you.

[jernst]

@snowcash
and ? You think this cannot be done in browsers that follow the standards ?

just take a look here for example: http://kriko.neosurge.net/webwriter/demo/

Interactivetools'com htmlarea (http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/) is working with explorer and mozilla based browser, i.e. the same way under linux, windows, mac osx, etc. I wish more authors of tools like vbulletin, *nuke, etc. use this kind of tool instead of activeX controls or vb scripts. But this is starting to change, I already see tools like osCommerce using it and more and more designers will be concerned about using things that work not only in ie when they will see the trends being inversed in their stats.

[communist]

Originally posted by snowcrash
@neo neko

Take a look at this screenshot:

-snip-

That is replying to a PM in vBulletin. I'd give you the link but you'd have to register to test it, so take my word for it. I'll find more and post links for you.
Works fine in IE6, Mozilla 1.6 and Firefox 0.8... where is the problem :confused:

[snowcrash]

Originally posted by communist
Works fine in IE6, Mozilla 1.6 and Firefox 0.8... where is the problem :confused:

I tested it in Firefox 0.8. Show me the link where it renders properly in Firefox 0.8.

[gotaserena]

My major quibble with IE is that it is not HTML 1.1 compliant (how's that for compatibility? :P) I once had to write a small PHP script that would return a jpeg image instead of html code.

Well, while mozilla, opera and firebird accepted my html 'Content-type: image/jpeg' headers without any problems, IE insisted on using its "FindMimeFromData" method (the technobabble on msdn website is laughable) which always resulted on IE thinking that the image was a bmp. After some users complained that the images were taking a lot of space I modified the script to generate a page loading a temporary image.

But I'm am positive that it would work perfectly if I used asp. Bummer.

[communist]

Originally posted by snowcrash
I tested it in Firefox 0.8. Show me the link where it renders properly in Firefox 0.8.
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/private.php?do=newpm
Of course you must be registered too :p

[SeeMoreDigital]

Blimey,

When I started this thread I didn't think it would receive 7No responses let alone 77No... so I'm really pleased it's managed to help more people than just me....... It has helped people hasn't it?

Anyway. Does anybody out there know how to insert a 'hit counter' to their welcome page?

I've tried. But like with most things I do these days.... It didn't work!

I also tried 'masking' my web address yesterday (after paying the required £5.88) and this was a big fat failure too!

I'm not feeling very useful at the moment.... :(


Cheers

EDIT: It seems the web masking works with Firefox but not IE. Arrrh!

[snowcrash]

Originally posted by communist
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/private.php?do=newpm
Of course you must be registered too :p

Yeah it looks fine in that one, that's strange. They are running the exact same version of vBulletin too.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital

Anyway. Does anybody out there know how to insert a 'hit counter' to their welcome page?

I've tried. But like with most things I do these days.... It didn't work!

Where are you being hosted and what kind of technologies are avalible to you? The basic method is a CGI script. Which most ISP provide. You can also find them for free at other sites. If PHP is usable you can craft one in PHP as well.

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital

I also tried 'masking' my web address yesterday (after paying the required £5.88) and this was a big fat failure too!

I'm not feeling very useful at the moment.... :(


Cheers

EDIT: It seems the web masking works with Firefox but not IE. Arrrh!

Odd? It should work in IE! AFAIK the patch was just released for IE so it should still be possible for any of your pages to masquarade as any website you want. This is in IE only. But you should be able to pick up a few credit card numbers this way. :p

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by snowcrash
@neo neko

Take a look at this screenshot:

PLEASE BE SPARRING WITH THE INLINE IMAGES

That is replying to a PM in vBulletin. I'd give you the link but you'd have to register to test it, so take my word for it. I'll find more and post links for you.

vBB works just fine here. So it is not something widespread. Infact it appears rather isolated. But as promised here are a few links to counter.

http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/demos.html
Check out specifically link 1
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo.html
link 3
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/demos/eagle-sun.html
and link 6
http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/menubar/demo.html

Always old oldies but goldies. All of which use basic HTML, CSS, and Javascript that IE claims to support but clearly fails on. Now without actually seeing the source of the page you posted I can't say that the error was from a poorly designed page or a poorly designed browser. But if I was a betting man I would say it was a poorly designed page and that within a few minutes I could spot and fix the broken HTML so that the page renders the same in all browsers. Thanks for trying though. ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
Where are you being hosted and what kind of technologies are avalible to you? The basic method is a CGI script. Which most ISP provide. You can also find them for free at other sites. If PHP is usable you can craft one in PHP as well. I host the website on my home PC (an 800MHz P3 which I also use as an HTPC). I'm using Apache Server (v2.0.47) and M$ FrontPage to create the pages

Originally posted by Neo Neko
Odd? It should work in IE! AFAIK the patch was just released for IE so it should still be possible for any of your pages to masquarade as any website you want. This is in IE only. But you should be able to pick up a few credit card numbers this way. :p Yes, it is a bit wierd.

I fiddled with some settings yesterday but often I can't see if they've worked properly because of the way it's hosted. In fact I'm not 100% sure if the outside world can see it at all now!

Cheers

[avih]

for anyone still looking for a firefox spell checker, check out this (http://www.4serendipity.com/journal/archives/000109.html) link.

involves few steps, but should be a good starting point.

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I host the website on my home PC (an 800MHz P3 which I also use as an HTPC). I'm using Apache Server (v2.0.47)

Hosting at home? GOOD. Then anything within reason is an option. I also host at home some. But via Linux or currently FreeBSD instead of Windows. Apache and PHP work well together. But I have only tried to get the two installed under windows with limited sucess. Installing under *NIX is much much easier. http://www.php.net should have the binaries and instructions to install and run under Windows/Apache. Then you need only browse hotscripts.com for what you need.

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
and M$ FrontPage to create the pages

Oh GOD kill me now! :D

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Yes, it is a bit wierd.

To put it mildly. Yes. ;)

I can't in good concience not say this. Use anything but frontpage to author HTML. And I do mean ANYTHING! For instance typing "copy con index.html" at the DOS prompt kicks frontpage arse. Then there is the tools of the pros. Namely notepad/vi/emacs. Teh roxor. If you are slightly less technically inclined head over to http://www.chami.com and download HTMLkit for free. It is what I code with in Windows on the rare occasion that I am over there. Under BSD or Linux Quanta+ is excelent. If you really must use frontpage at least run it through the tidy module in HTMLkit before you publish. Otherwise your pages will look like ass when not viewed in IE since frontpage outputs mostly broken and horribly bloated HTML.

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I fiddled with some settings yesterday but often I can't see if they've worked properly because of the way it's hosted. In fact I'm not 100% sure if the outside world can see it at all now!

Cheers

IP/URL? If you have a firewall poke the necessary holes. And you can get free DNS from DynDNS.org. Like neoneko.ath.cx

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
...IP/URL? If you have a firewall poke the necessary holes. And you can get free DNS from DynDNS.org. Like neoneko.ath.cx Thanks for all the tips. Looks like loads more reading up is in order!

It's true what they say then... Life really does begin after forty!

If you want to view my web shyte, I've created a direct link to it using Doom9's 'www' button (if it still works) below my sig.

I've just tried accessing your site but all I get with IE is... 'Cannot find server' and nothing happens with Firefox either!

Cheers

[Uli]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
..
uli: proxomitron is the winner! I tried all the apps you suggested and proxomitron was the best by far! It was even able to remove the annoying drop down ad like you see on dvd2svcd.org and the sticky ad on geocities-type sites! Thank you thank you thank you!

You're welcome :)
Nice to hear you're pleased with proxomitron, because for me it's also 'the winner' :D
Although the popup blocking ability is only a 'byproduct' of it's main feature of filtering general html traffic. It's a bit hard to setup and understand, but it's worth the effort. Cause sometimes the popup industry changes code for popups, simply change your popup blocking rule... ;)

greetz, Uli

[SeeMoreDigital]

Ah ha!

It would appear that my IP address masking with IE would not work because of some dodgy java script code.

After looking at my index.html page's source code and editing out the offending .js code line, the masking kicked in.

However, I now get an 'Errors on page' warning... but only in IE. Mozilla is much better behaved!

Will this never end?

Cheers

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital

I've just tried accessing your site but all I get with IE is... 'Cannot find server' and nothing happens with Firefox either!

Cheers

Odd. It works from outside my lan. Perhaps the DNS of my server is not well handled by your local DNS servers. Not that you are missing much. I just finished compiling and configuring the system. Apache2.x, PHP5 beta, MySQL, and all on FreeBSD 5.x. The only thing that is up at the moment is a PHP index page with epoch counter and 3 images. :P

[SeeMoreDigital]

Just tried again!

Still cannie see anything Captain!

It is still http://interface.darktech.org isn't it?

Cheers

[Neo Neko]

Nope. My profile was about a year outa date. ODS went pay only almost last January. I updated my profile and it is http://neoneko.ath.cx

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
Nope. My profile was about a year outa date. ODS went pay only almost last January. I updated my profile and it is http://neoneko.ath.cx

"I can see it fine now Captain"

Cheers

[Neo Neko]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital


"I can see it fine now Captain"

Cheers

I got a bit more up today. A framework for a totally CSS/PHP controled layout. I need to specify a specific font it seems though. I was editing it on my server as both my other non windows PCs were in the process of compiling Kde 3.2.1 and Windows XP for some reason does not like talking to samba on my FreeBSD rig. So no Mozilla to test it in at the time. It looks good in konqueror. And it is only slightly off in Mozilla. But in IE it looks like a totally different site. This is shaping up to be one of the most HTML compliant and IE incompatable pages I know of. IE does not even disply half the images not to mention the colors are off a bit and the layout is skewed in IE. :D Good stuff!

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Originally posted by Neo Neko
This is shaping up to be one of the most HTML compliant and IE incompatable pages I know of. IE does not even disply half the images not to mention the colors are off a bit and the layout is skewed in IE. :D Good stuff! I don't know how you do it!

The page looks totally botched in IE but great in Mozilla!

Nice one.

Cheers


EDIT: I managed to sort out my 'errors' page problem. More javascript left overs.