VP6.2 Release

[Asmodeus]

Yes quantization matrix. As you can see in the XVID part of the forum, custom matrixes can do miracles with quality :) I like present quality of VP6, but if we can improwe it more ... ;)

[Sharktooth]

A custom matrix capability coped with a good rate control would definatly open a whole lot of quality improvements... :)

[Sirber]

Hi

In the registry, settings are stored in binary format in the bSettings field. How can I use that field manually to set the encoder? With current registry, I cannot implement VP6 into RealAnime.

[edit]

Fix I could do is:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe vp6vfw.dll,Configure

But "Configure" don't work, so I can't call the config externaly :(

[edit2]

I decompiled vp6vfw.dll to check Export Function list, and there is none to start the GUI to configure the codec unlike XviD. Would it be possible to add a function (or 3, for each FOURCC) to the DLL?

[Sirber]

What's the right DriverProc params to call the GUI?

(0, 0, 20490, 0, 0) crash the DLL :)

[On2Tech]

Originally posted by Sirber
What's the right DriverProc params to call the GUI?

(0, 0, 20490, 0, 0) crash the DLL :)


I don't know what language you are using but hopefully you can translate: something like this might work.


unsigned char ico[512];
unsigned int x;
unsigned int hwnd =0;

// create an instance of a vp62 compressor
x=DriverProc(0,0,3,0,&ico);

// call the configure
// note: if you want your app to be the parent of the
// configure window pass in the hwnd of your main window.
DriverProc(x,0,20490,hwnd,0)

//close the vp62 compressor
DriverProc(x,0,4,0,0);

[Sirber]

Thanks for the answer, DaveEL showed me how to use VFW calls. it works now :D. I will be able to encode in few days (since I'm at work).

[Sirber]

@On2tech

Hi

I'd like to know if I can bundle VP6.2 codec with RealAnime?

Thanks!

[KR]

A test I recently did with my eyes, and then with Feng Xiao's VQM revealed that this codec was better than XVID (for the sources I used).

Would get more constant qualityIn my test, the averaged deviation of VQM was lower for VP6.2 than for XVID. Maybe VP6's encoding quality is not only better, but more constant than XVID's.

What I hate about VP6 is how it handles interlaced material. On decompression, either it is not deinterlaced, either the fields are blended. If I want to blend the fields, I'll do it before encoding. I would like an implementation of the Bob technique (not sure of the name. Basically you get 60 frames per second output from a 60 fields per second video clip). Minolta already made a DirectShow filter for XVID which uses some Mickey$oft thingy that is related to that technique. It would be even better if deinterlacing was automatically desactivated for parts of the image where motion is below a certain threshold, but I think that would require too much CPU time.

Also, as already mentioned on this thread, there are conflicts between DirectVobSub and this codec. I know I could use MPC's subtitles handling, but I prefer using Overlay rendering.

[pieter1976]

I like to know some more details about on2Tech vp7 codec.
Look a this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82298)

CPU usage
Compression improvements
new features

[slavickas]

btw on2 guys: write "proper" nsv plugin, it won't mark keyframes now

[MeDj]

Hi!
Just noticed that distributive of VP6 is slightly updated on the site. I've downloaded it at June,2004 and it has size 1702723 bytes (it was version 6.2.0.10).
Today I've discovered that it has size 1753279 bytes and "Last Modified: 30,August".
Does anyone know what was changed? Is it still 6.2.0.10 version?
Any comments?

[On2Tech]

Originally posted by slavickas
btw on2 guys: write "proper" nsv plugin, it won't mark keyframes now

Thanks for the info. We just fixed the problem. Please give it a shot and let us know.

[On2Tech]

Originally posted by MeDj
Hi!
Just noticed that distributive of VP6 is slightly updated on the site. I've downloaded it at June,2004 and it has size 1702723 bytes (it was version 6.2.0.10).
Today I've discovered that it has size 1753279 bytes and "Last Modified: 30,August".
Does anyone know what was changed? Is it still 6.2.0.10 version?
Any comments?

Yesterday we put up a new version that fixes a couple of problems that occurred when running our codec from within direct show. The version number should be 6.2.6.0.

[slavickas]

Originally posted by On2Tech
Thanks for the info. We just fixed the problem. Please give it a shot and let us know.

i have my own plugin (sdk not so difficult :) ),but installed anyway - seems ok now.

and on2 probably should support vp61 in nsv too, because nullpeople(aka nullsoft) haven't yet released active-x player with vp62 support, and some broadcasters like embedded player on their sites

[NuPogodi]

Originally posted by On2Tech
Yesterday we put up a new version that fixes a couple of problems that occurred when running our codec from within direct show. The version number should be 6.2.6.0.
A conflict with the Gabest's VSFilter was the most-known bug of VP62 (v.6.2.0.10) decoder. And "... fixes a couple of problems" sounded so promising . I've downloaded v.6.2.6.0 to test whether this conflict has been removed (i've found no info about the corrections - neither at www.on2.com nor in this thread). Well, i must confess that the corrections are unfortunately related to "something absolutely different" /(C) Monty Python's Flying Circus/.

1. Any plans to correct this problem?
2. Is it possible to accompany next releases by brief (not too laborious) description of bugfixes?
3. And one more question... Any plans to release the VP6 decoder only?

Thanks, Alex

[IgorC]

Any news about VP7. On2 told that Vp7 will be realese untill end of 2004

[Sirber]

Originally posted by NuPogodi
Well, i must confess that the corrections are unfortunately related to "something absolutely different" /(C) Monty Python's Flying Circus/.Wasn't "And now for something completly different"? Just ordered it :D

[SpaceV]

yeah, they said b4 the end of the year.

So they only have about 3 weeks left.

I cant wait to see how it does against Ateme's H264, it needs to beat it otherwise it will have a tough future.

[neo_anderson]

How to dowload the VP6 Codec? is it a freeware or do i have to pay for it? http://www.on2.com/vp6.php3
also, how to encode dvd to vp6? Is there ay encoding utility for vp6 encoding?on the website, they are for commercial license, are they available for free personal use?

[Manao]

Sirber hosts the codec on its page :

http://www.detritus.qc.ca/index.php?section=download

[Sirber]

Yep. The latest 6.4.2 :D in my own ugly installer!

[Sharktooth]

Uh? Why you use your "own ugly installer"?
I have 6.4.2 and it has it's own installer...

Grab it here: http://www.aziendeassociate.com/VP6.4.2.rar

[Sirber]

Rar... not EXE :rolleyes:

I made a self extract RAR which start the EXE. That's why it's ugly :)

[Sharktooth]

Ah... well maybe a NSIS installer is better...
edit: naa...

[Sirber]

cool!

Let me know and I will update my site. Hum... may I have a copy of the NSIS script too please? :D

[Sharktooth]

I think it's not necessary coz 2 installers in a single package are too much...

[Sirber]

No, I mean a copy of the NSIS script, the text :) Not to build 2 installer in the same package. I'd like to see how it's done :D

[Sharktooth]

I cant make a NSIS script for that coz the files are already packaged and there is another installer.
First, i should unpack the files, look at the registry changes after install, create the install and uninstall script,etc... and then rebuild another package...
Actually your winrar solution is better, dont you think?
However, if you want, i can post some NSIS scripts or examples.

[Sirber]

Indeed the exed rar is the lazyest solution :D

Could be nice for the exemples :)

[grooed]

is vp6 not free anymore for personal use?i can download it from other sites such as free-codecs and sirber's site. but not from on2 anymore.

[Sirber]

It is free, but not avalible "for free" on on2 site. They just removed it.

[DeathTheSheep]

yo! who likes Naruto on this site? Its the best anime!

[Sirber]

Guess ;)

[DeathTheSheep]

you and I alike! RealLee. :sly: ;)