Official thread - GK 0.28.8

[gatormac]

Originally posted by Gordoran
what is this Bigfix u talk about?

i installed the new xvid above the other, not good?

Its a utility that erases (some) codecs and the garbage that they sometimes leave behind when updating to a newer one...if used you shouldn't have any problems with old files or old registry entries screwing up your new files and settings. (at least this is how I perceive it) Do a search for BigFix to find it.

[superdump]

len0x: I'm having a few problems with the 0.28.8 release. When I open gknot I get this error (http://www.swains.plus.com/superdump/showhints.png). Then I'm greeted with the usual gknot window but with some text missing (http://www.swains.plus.com/superdump/missingtext.png) on the bottom left button which you use to open a d2v and the window title. Then when I actually navigate to a d2v and try to open it, I get this error (http://www.swains.plus.com/superdump/opend2v.png). Finally, gknot doesn't seem to be remembering me deselecting "Show hints" in the Options tab, selecting "Don't check" for Nandub and VStrip in the Programs tab or selecting XviD as the codec on the bitrate tab. Am I alone in these errors? :S

[superdump]

Strange... after downloading it from the fourth available download server on sourceforge (Aleron) it now works fine and exhibits none of the problems mentioned above.

[techz]

which server did u download it from the first time?

[Veky]

I got it from the second server and it works fine.

[Veky]

I just did my first rip with 0.28.8 with the same setting as usually and the sound in the video file is all screwed up. Sample: http://onyx.globalnet.hr/~vejurak/sound.mp3

The MP3 alone however plays fine although it's properties are weird. Pic:
http://onyx.globalnet.hr/~vejurak/soundproperties.gif

I put the sound in manually with VDubMod... but any ideas why it did this?

[rowland]

I just uninstalled the previous version of GKnot, including selecting the option to delete associated reg keys (plus I also ran a separate reg cleaner to clean up anything else left behind), and then downloaded and installed this new version 0.28.8.

However, after loading up a project file and going to Save & Encode, nothing appears in the either of the drop down boxes in the Audio 1 or Audio 2 tabs when I select the "MP3, custom Parameters (Experts)".

Does anyone else who done a fresh install (like I did by uninstalling previous version first) get this happening to them?

[gatormac]

I did an uninstall and am having 1 problem mainly. I am trying to do a 1 pass XVID encode and it always comes up with 2 passes in the encoding queue....I have single pass selected. Can't figure it out.

[Xorcist]

I had the Xvid from july 2002 installed and updated it to 1.0 RC3 and tested with AutoGK. Then I installed 1.0 RC4 on top of that and installed GK 0.28.8 on top of my old GK 0.28.7.2. It kept all my settings. I then tried to do a comptest but it gave me a b_vop error. I corrected this easily by setting xvid pass settings to default. This works flawlessly. I did not uninstall any old versions of software.

Thanks for making a great piece of software even better with 0.28.8 :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by gatormac
I did an uninstall and am having 1 problem mainly. I am trying to do a 1 pass XVID encode and it always comes up with 2 passes in the encoding queue....I have single pass selected. Can't figure it out.

Heh, single pass encoding is not supported in 0.28.x (in fact even since 0.27). That is why that option is greyed out :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Shuichiro
2. ^^ Can I do a comp test with xvid? Because when I want to do so I get the error message: Failed to get data for 'use_bvop'
Maybe I did something wrong. Xvid 1 RC4 is installed

As was pointed out - XviD installer deletes registry settings on install, so if you never went into XviD default settings (and deleted previous GK defaults on install) then codec obviously cannot get registry settings...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Veky
I just did my first rip with 0.28.8 with the same setting as usually and the sound in the video file is all screwed up. Sample: http://onyx.globalnet.hr/~vejurak/sound.mp3

The MP3 alone however plays fine although it's properties are weird.

That sounds like usual BeSweet mono encoding problem. I can't imagine why you can play the sound separately though (coz I can't play that sample properly)

[gatormac]

Originally posted by len0x
Heh, single pass encoding is not supported in 0.28.x (in fact even since 0.27). That is why that option is greyed out :)

:o :o :o

I just recently started doing 1 pass encodes at a constant Q of 2 using VDubMod (since GK didn't support 1.0)...I never even tried a 1 pass encode in older GK. Why isn't it supported? (not a complaint)

[Veky]

Originally posted by len0x
That sounds like usual BeSweet mono encoding problem. I can't imagine why you can play the sound separately though (coz I can't play that sample properly)

I've encoded another movie, Matrix Revolutions, and the same thing happened. The final file has the sound all screwed up. I've also noticed that video plays faster too.

The video without audio and the MP3 file (when manually processed with BeSweet) alone are fine and I can merge them with VDubMod nicely.

[thoralf]

thanks len0x and all te other developers involved ... thank you very much for your efforts.
now it would be great to have support for containers other than avi - that would eliminate the need to mux audio and subtitle streams manually with mkvtoolnix or similiar utilities.
Thoralf.

[tonygib]

Hi all,

Just to add my voice to the mp3 audio problem. I too have been getting the same thing, its like it is all speeded up and I think I have even been getting extra pop's and sounds, tho none of this is in the wav file. So far it seams to be happening on longer encodes, ie on a 24 min vid/wav, it all sounds fine, on a 40 min one, it goes to complete crap.

When I then encode using an older, standalone lame exe, the mp3 turns out just fine.

Is there some bug in besweet/lame now, everything worked perfect with the previous gordian knot install.

[kitvirus]

When XviD 1.0 RC4 and DivX 5.11 are installed in my PC,

Gordian Knot does not read my DivX avi files with this message
(File is not a valid dvd2avi...)

Only uninstalling XviD can solve this porblem.

The problem is that one more compatible codecs are installed.

I checked my divx files with GSpot & found XviD & DivX decoder are registerd as compatilble codecs in my pc.

In this case, file open error message can be shown always.

Is this codec problem?

[Veky]

Originally posted by JuanCC
Same Error as tonygib in GK 0.28.8 , I think there is a problem with lame.

Same problem here.

[Marcel]

I have found a minor problem and it's workaround:

I am encoding 40min D2Vs (PAL, 4:3) to ~590,000 kb, to have space for three MP3/128 audio streams (these are encoded and muxed outside GKnot).
For video encoding, XVid RC4 is used (QPel, GMC, no BFrames). But I use it also for other purposes, for example for 1pass encodings with a target bitrage of 120 kBit/s.
With GKnot, first pass is done well. But for second pass, the encoded AVI will have ~230 kBit/s video bitrate, instead of ~1880 kBit/s. XVid seems to try to reach 120 kBit/s (hard job with 704*512*25...). So, for every job I add to GKnot queue, I have to open XVid 2nd pass config separately. There I find it's still set to "target bitrate: 120". A single click on the "target bitrate"-button switches over to "target size: 590000". With this single click, I get around this and also a well sized output file.

I have edited default_xvid_secondpass.settings not to use bvops, but it looks like I should also change use_2pass_bitrate to 0 - here an excerpt from this file, as it is actually located on my hard disk:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\XviD]
"mode"=dword:00000002
"bitrate"=dword:00000078
"desired_size"=dword:0008b290
"use_2pass_bitrate"=dword:00000001
"desired_quant"=dword:00000190
[...]
"discard1pass"=dword:00000001
"full1pass"=dword:00000000


First, I had installed XVid RC4 (and then I did this legendary "load defaults"), then I have been encoding XVid AVIs with 1pass, 120 kBit/s, and after this (with XVid encoder options set to use target bitrate, not target size, which might have caused the problem at all) I installed GKnot 0.28.8 (had an older 0.27 previously installed).

After changing the GKnot job Xvid options for 2nd pass to use target size, the file 01_secondpass.settings contains the lines:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GNU\XviD]
"bitrate"=dword:00000078
"desired_size"=dword:00090091
"use_2pass_bitrate"=dword:00000000

- as it is correct in my humble eyes (at least it creates the desired output).


Anyway, thanks for this great knot!

Marcel

[tonygib]

A little update on the audio problem with GK 0.28.8. I grabed the older (complete) beweet files from the previous GK release and totally replaced the files in the current one with those versions.

Having done that, all the mp3 encoding seams to be just fine now, so unless someone else has other proof, it looks like some code in the besweet package is causing problems.

thanks

[len0x]

Originally posted by tonygib
Having done that, all the mp3 encoding seams to be just fine now, so unless someone else has other proof, it looks like some code in the besweet package is causing problems.


have you tried new fixed b26 of BeSweet yet ?

[tonygib]

Hi len0x,

Well, I did grab the newest beta from the besweet website a few days ago, which had the same problem, but I take it a "new" b26 has just been released, if thats the case, then no, havn't tried it. I will download it again and let you know.

cheers

[Veky]

The new version fixed it. :)

[tonygib]

Well, i've done some more tests, late into last night and got some "interesting" mixed results.

Unfortunately, I no longer have the wav files from the initial tests, so am doing new test on ac3 dvd rip files.

Once again, anything shortish, like 25 mins is fine across the board, all besweet versions, etc. With a longer sample (43 mins) I was getting extra "pop" sounds all through the mp3 file. But wait it gets stranger. It seams that some how I have partly changed the playback codec in one of the version of media player.

When I just play the mp3 file, in the older media player (v 6.4.09) for some reason it uses the Intervideo Audio Decoder (I have WinDVD installed) for playback. This causes the problems. But if I use media player classic (v 6.4.8.1) then it plays fine. Also if the mp3 file is in the divx avi file, then under the older media player it now also seams to play fine, but then it uses a different audio decoder (MPEG layer-3 Decoder - Frauhofer).

But wait, it gets better, if I use the newer media player (XP) then a standalone mp3 file doesn't play at all but a divx video with a mp3 audio plays fine.

So right now I am at a bit of a loss, I think I need to find a way to get the Intervideo Audio Decoder out of media player (without stuff up my WinDVD player) and try to fix the XP media player. Even so, maybe others that are having problems can check their players and audio decoder filters to see whats happening.

[techz]

i just uninstalled 0.28.8 adnd went back to 0.28.7.2, the final mp3 track in the avi file was coming out all wrong, dont have the logs, deleted them, but somethings definately off, and it isnt me :)

[Hiro2k]

Why would that be a problem with Gknot??

If the mp3 track is wrong, then it's probably a problem with Besweet. Have you upgraded to the newest version of gknot??

[tonygib]

Yeah, as Hiro2k said, one of the problems I was having with the mp3 file, expecially as part of an avi and even as just the mp3 file by it's self, wasn't due to GK. Right now I am pretty sure it was either the initial b26 release of besweet or a funny old Intervideo Audio decoder that was getting used by one of my media players (in other words it all played just fine in another media player).

In the end, I think it may have been a bit of both, so techz, grab the new "fixed" version of besweet b26 and when the avi is playing, check to see what decoders are being used for playback.

I'll be doing more tests on monday/tuesday which will be just like the initial files, etc that I first noticed the problem, will report back afterwards.

[KE]

Copying all files in BeSweetv1.5b26 Beta to GK 0.28.8 solved the problem for me.

[techz]

Originally posted by Hiro2k
Why would that be a problem with Gknot??

If the mp3 track is wrong, then it's probably a problem with Besweet. Have you upgraded to the newest version of gknot??
Its withe the 0.28.8 that i had a problem, now i'm back with the 0.28.7.2 and everythings good again, although i'll try the new besweet with 0.28.8 and let u know

[len0x]

I just updated the 0.28.8 pack to include latest fixed BeSweet, but nothing was changed otherwise

[THEMATRIX]

Thank you len0x for your great program!!:)

[tonygib]

Just a little update, I have now done my "normal", Monday show encode and this time all was fine, so one or both of those changes fixed the problem, thanks len0x.


exiztone: I too have had that same error on the new VdubMod, tho only once so far and at the time I was only using that app, had nothing to do with GK. So I think you may need to report that in the VdubMod forum. But like I said, its only happened once to me.

[BruceL]

@Lenox

Just curious, the original G-Gnot 28.8 installer was 7.79MB. The current download with same version number is 7.65MB. Is B-Sweet the only change? I don't recall the B-Sweet file size difference. Thanks for a great program. It brings much joy!

[len0x]

Originally posted by BruceL

Just curious, the original G-Gnot 28.8 installer was 7.79MB. The current download with same version number is 7.65MB. Is B-Sweet the only change? I don't recall the B-Sweet file size difference.


Its only BeSweet change: some irrelevant dlls of the package were removed due to DSPGuru request.

[Nippur]

I tryed many times to download the latest version 28.8, but the download is very long and even when i got the message that it ended correctly is just 2/3 mb and a nsis error message appear. Can you check?

[jggimi]

Hello, and welcome to the forum.

Which download mirror are you using? SourceForge has many.

[Nippur]

Originally posted by Nippur
I tryed many times to download the latest version 28.8, but the download is very long and even when i got the message that it ended correctly is just 2/3 mb and a nsis error message appear. Can you check?

I was always using UNC. You are correct. I got it from heanet. Sorry, my brain looks to be on holiday those days... Thanks a lot.

[Lord_KiRon]

Now when AVI2DVDdg v1.3.0 and MPEG2Dec3dg got released when we can expect GK version utilizing them ?

It's my understanding they fix a lot of sevire bugs ...

[loni_blues]

@Lord_KiRon

You can update that yourself. Download decodefix130.zip. Replace all of the Dvd2avi folder in GKnot with the contents of that file, copy MPEG2Dec3dg.dll to GKnot folder and rename it to "mpeg2dec3.dll". And that´s it.

Regards,
loni_blues

[Lord_KiRon]

Originally posted by loni_blues
@Lord_KiRon

You can update that yourself. Download decodefix130.zip. Replace all of the Dvd2avi folder in GKnot with the contents of that file, copy MPEG2Dec3dg.dll to GKnot folder and rename it to "mpeg2dec3.dll". And that´s it.

Regards,
loni_blues

This was the first thing I did , but GK still refused to recognize/read .D2Vs , I will try again , may be I made some stupied error with naming convention or left old copy of mpeg2dec3.dll somewhere .

[manono]

Yes, it works Lord_KiRon. I just upgraded last night. Make sure that everything is where it's supposed to be, that everything points to the right place, and that everything is named correctly (as loni_blues said). And also, if you're using a shortcut on the desktop or someplace to open DVD2AVI, that it points to the right one also. I've made that mistake before-did everything right, except for fixing the shortcut.

[rotflol]

With all the changes that recently took place, we sure could use a new version of GK. :D

[CruNcher]

@len0x
could you look into compatibility with DGMPGDec 1.0.1 created d2v files, as they are most likely to be the same as the 1.1.0 final ones hopefully :)
the mpeg2dec3.dll replace trick still works

[len0x]

There should be no problems with using new DVD2AVIdg/DGMPGDec with GK, but it will no longer work properly with R4R. So if ppl are happy if I remove R4R from GK pack then I can release an update.

[japouleripeur]

Originally posted by len0x
So if ppl are happy if I remove R4R from GK pack then I can release an update. No, I won't be happy. R4R works with new DVD2AVIdg, but I haven't try with DGMPGDec. Is it a name issue? and is it possible TheWEF has a look on it?
Thanx.

[Lord_KiRon]

Well R2R does very important thing for me - it allows to select few chapters/episodes and queue them for DVDDecriptor and AVI2DVDdg - this is very helpfull , then I just use GK to create .avs and BeSweet to encode auduio (if I want) and manually run VDubMod.
However automating this first 2 steps (decrip and demux) is very important for me , so if you going to put same functionality into GK then it's OK with me , otherwise I will be very disapointed .

(And please do not "send" me to AutoGK , I need to have control over what I do , I just need a batch too.)

[len0x]

So far I know for sure that R4R doesn't apply FF anymore for d2v creation and soon CLI of DGMPGDec will be totally incompatible with old one, so d2v creation within R4R will be totally obsolete. That's why I don't really want to update current GK pack atm, so that ppl stop bugging me about it. (but when I do update it with future DGMPGDec - R4R will be gone for good, although old GK pack containing it will always be available).

[pdx]

actually, i'm one who won't be missing R4R. it worked for me for the first few times i experimented with GK, but since then i tend to completely bypass R4R (especially after it started bailing out on me on several occasions). even more so, i'm very anxious to see a new version of GK released (btw, what's up with the official website (gordianknot.sf.net), it's been ages since it's been updated...), with all the recent changes (besweet, dg's mpeg2dec stuff, and mainly, xvid -- these days i'm still doing encodes using divx5.0.5, but anxious to try xvid 1.0).

so, len0x, if you're up to a release, either with or without R4R, my $0.02 would be to go ahead. i think i speak for a lot of us when i say to hell with R4R, xvid and new DG stuff are far more worthy. :)

[gnr]

its time to have new codec pack and rip pack. somany things updated...i would like to have all in a pack, everybody does i guess.

[rotflol]

I've just formatted my hard drive and reinstalled my system, so now would be a good moment for a new rippack. ;)