DVobSub

[CharlyAR]

There was a standalone dvobsub filter available for download.

Where can I get it so I can put it on the CD, without having to put all the rest of VobSub?

[unmei]

here (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&release_id=180832)

its called VSfilter and the pack contains two versions, one for unicode OSes like W2K and XP and one for the old 98 and ME. If you _know_ you will never need the non-unicode you don't have to include it and save some space..

btw i don't think this will be much smaller than the old vobsub, but its good to have a recent version anyway, isn't it :P

[jevans64]

I am not sure about using DVobSub.ax without vobsub.dll, but I have created an "install" directory that I include on all my Divx rips. This directory is about 2.4 megs and has all the necessary codecs to play Divx with AC3/mp3 audio. The person receiving the disc just runs the script and is able to play the disc on a Windoze box.

includes:

divxdec.ax
DVobSub.ax
iviaudio.ax
mpgaudio.ax
mlcom.ax (for AC3)
unrar.dll (in case the subtitles are RARed)
vobsub.dll

I'll be happy to send you the pack if you want to try it. The included batch scripts are easy to understand. You can copy the DVobSub.ax and vobsub.dll to your system or system32 dir and run
the appropriate line using Start/Run to register.

Run:

%winbootdir%\system\regsvr32 /s %winbootdir%\system\DVobSub.ax

for 98 or ME

Run:

%windir%\system32\regsvr32 /s %windir%\system32\DVobSub.ax

for XP, NT, or 2000

[HarryM]

I have problems with VSFilter.dll (aka DVobSub 2.24 and newer) on win98SE. It freezes player...
Only with VMR9 is all OK. But VMR9 has blurry quality. :(

[CharlyAR]

Originally posted by jevans64
I am not sure about using DVobSub.ax without vobsub.dll, but I have created an "install" directory that I include on all my Divx rips. This directory is about 2.4 megs and has all the necessary codecs to play Divx with AC3/mp3 audio. The person receiving the disc just runs the script and is able to play the disc on a Windoze box.
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I'll be happy to send you the pack if you want to try it. The included batch scripts are easy to understand. You can copy the DVobSub.ax and vobsub.dll to your system or system32 dir and run
the appropriate line using Start/Run to register.


Yes, I would like to give it a try, please send it to:
calbert[//remove this to avoid spam//]@interlap.com.ar

Tnx!

Originally posted by unmei
here (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303&release_id=180832)

its called VSfilter and the pack contains two versions, one for unicode OSes like W2K and XP and one for the old 98 and ME. If you _know_ you will never need the non-unicode you don't have to include it and save some space..


Tnx! How would be the install script so I can put it in a CD?

[unmei]

@Harry M : if you use win98 you must use the non-unicode version. i can't say much more i havent used w98 for years and the unicode version works flawless on XP pro
(well you could change to XP, that would be a good idea for better multimedia and unicode support :P)

@CharlyAR : dunno, i wouldnt include VSfilter on a CD - or any DSfilters at all, just note what version was the current when you did the encode, then later on you get the newest filter if it didnt work after a reinstall or so.

Actually im really surprised how many ppl still talk about VobSub 2.23 while im always eager to get the newest VSfilter (well its about USF and soft SSA in matroska for me, its maybe less important for sub/idx :)

to "install" (like with every Direct Show filter):
-drop the file in a folder (system32 is OK :)
-and run in a console windows "regsvr32 [path]filter.ax" (or dll) in this case maybe "regsvr32 VSfilter.dll"

edit:
IMHO filter packs are a NO-NO,
they might be good for a while and a certain tagret environment, but run big danger of messing up a system for all time (uh till windows reinstall i mean).
I just recently got rid of Nimo pack with a windows reinstall and now i only installed those filters i /know/ what i need them for and that i had the best experience with...amazing how much my mm sytem got a performance and stability boost ;) This also means i know which filter is responsible when i have a problem and i can uninstall it without fear to break my entire multimedia system :) Additionally many packs consist of 3/4 outdated or useless-from-the-beginning filters

[CharlyAR]

Originally posted by unmei
@CharlyAR : dunno, i wouldnt include VSfilter on a CD - or any DSfilters at all, just note what version was the current when you did the encode, then later on you get the newest filter if it didnt work after a reinstall or so.
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Mhmm... I understand you, and I agree with your opinion about Win98, but the problem is that if I want to give the movie to another person, I want to include all the necesary files.
So I need an easy installation of vsfilter, and not unicode. :(

Tnx!

[stickboy]

The old VobSub provided cut/join tools.

Are these still available with the new guliverkli versions?

The guliverkli stuff really needs a little more documentation...

[unmei]

VSfilter itself is only the render engine, but there is VSconv and VSrip to create/edit subtitles. However,i dunno if they have all the functionaitly of the old tools since i never use them (i only work with text based subs and thus with SubRip and SS Alpha etc)

As for inclusion, the VSfilter.dll is really all you need to play subs under any windows, but i fear i can't solve your freeze problems. Well as it works in WMR9 you could try to optimise the rendering speed in this, with disabling subtitle prebuffer and setting a low max subtitle resolution (this helped a bit in my case, but luckily i can use WMR7 in xp)

[jevans64]

I just assumed that 2.23 was the latest version since I was just searching for VobSub.

Generally, It IS a bad idea to use codec packs. I just include packs on my CDs/DVDs for those who do not have any Divx codecs/filters already present. I include a statement that states that it is not necessary to install if the disc works.

I am going to try VSfilter, VSconv, VSrip and compare to the VobSub utils. Since I am doing extensive editing of subtitle timings, I need the functionality of subresync.

[Animaniac]

Originally posted by jevans64
I just assumed that 2.23 was the latest version since I was just searching for VobSub.

Generally, It IS a bad idea to use codec packs. I just include packs on my CDs/DVDs for those who do not have any Divx codecs/filters already present. I include a statement that states that it is not necessary to install if the disc works.

I am going to try VSfilter, VSconv, VSrip and compare to the VobSub utils. Since I am doing extensive editing of subtitle timings, I need the functionality of subresync.

SubReSync has been moved into MPC.

[HarryM]

Originally posted by unmei
@Harry M : if you use win98 you must use the non-unicode version. i can't say much more i havent used w98 for years and the unicode version works flawless on XP pro
(well you could change to XP, that would be a good idea for better multimedia and unicode support :P)


Of course, I use non-unicode version. But I have problems still - it freezes with standard system renderer.

[unmei]

he Animaniac, new cool avatar :) but i dunno where this is from (last was from azumanga right?)

@other please excuse me for this one being 3 lines offtopic here

[ukendt]

:D