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pixolex
9th July 2003, 11:28
the page is down...i can't open it...i don't know news about it...there are any new tool? subrip suport that format already?

unmei
10th July 2003, 15:50
as you might know (or have guessed) the corecodec server had been attacked and was now down for some time. Currently they are moving the site to a new server, so its only a matter of time until usf.corecodec will be up again (www.corecodec.com is already up but probably not fully functional)

About tools:
no, AFAIK srt2usf.exe is the only tool at the moment, but it did not produce valid USF in my tests and it might have missed all the recent specification updates.

Kovacs Endre and me both write a USF editor each. I think Endre is far ahead of me by the time but he doesn't want to publish until he thinks it's a stable version. My USF editor (pre-beta "preview") you can snatch from the link in my signature below, but be aware it's quite outdated too (not conforming to draft 0.16 of 19th june) - i had little time lately but i hope i can upload the 0.16 compatible version within a week (when my exams are over that is). It will bring quite a few other improvements too, like the hopefully solved UTF-8 problems (thanks to Kovacs Endre, hehe).

I fear Subrip and co will only start supporting USF when you actually can put it in a video, which is not the case at the moment. I hope you understand the matroska team has higher priority goals to achieve at the moment (tagging, native mpeg-4, chapters and who knows what else)

ChristianHJW
14th July 2003, 11:19
Originally posted by unmei I hope you understand the matroska team has higher priority goals to achieve at the moment (tagging, native mpeg-4, chapters and who knows what else)

That's true, but having different priorities doesnt mean there is no work on it. While only some of the members of our team are capable of working on the top priorities mentioned above, there are always other people volunteering to contibute also, and they get assigned to 'easy' tasks first to get used to the handling of libmatroska and libebml.

As a matter of fact, we have a new team member since some time now called 'angelfire', he is from Malta and actively working on a proggie called USF2MKS, namely a muxing tool to mux USF into matroska files. He got stuck with the muxing process today and will get in touch with jcsston now, who was recently making a nice general use matroska muxer with a specific API to call it, called LemAPI.

Once this is done, we can already mux USF into matroska, and then its mreley only a matter of Gabest updating his DVobSub to allow USF displaying, and the DShow fiters to get updated to call it correctly if a USF stream is found in the file ;) ....

filewalker
15th July 2003, 12:40
Sounds great that there's a real progress with USF & Matroska!:)

@unmei
Does your proggie U96 produce valid USF files atm if we import a .srt subtitle?
Hope that you'll update it & work further on your U96.
(I downloaded it and played around a little bit...looks really nice :) )

Cu filewalker

pixolex
15th July 2003, 21:48
Tanks :) for your responses...

Now it seems to me that a UNIVERSAL format will emerge...

based on XML...:)

i'll keep waiting

unmei
17th July 2003, 08:19
@filewalker
it produces USF which i think is valid (UTF-8, all sections present), but following an outdated draft.

to be more technical:
jun 19 draft 0.16 was published , which allows multiple authors and language and langageExt for each subtitle section plus a new attribute "speaker" for each subtitle. These are not supported by my build from june 18, but if you read the online changelog you'll see i have implemented some already, but i will only up a new build once i fully support draft 0.16.

and yeah, next week my summer vacation start. i bet i can't find an excuse not to code on U96 then :)

.SRT import should not impose particular problems, i think this part is "final" :D