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jggimi
23rd April 2003, 01:41
My wife came home from the store the other day with both Laputa ("Castle in the Sky") and Spirited Away.

I know that a number of people have been waiting for these US releases for some time, primarily to see the differences between fansubs and what Disney has done.

I've been playing with the subs on the Laputa, and thought I'd pass on the following info.

From menus, you may choose either "English for the Hearing Impaired" or you may choose "English." Choosing "English for the Hearing Impaired" matches the English Dub script (plus the description of sound effects) developed by John Lassiter's team at Pixar. Selecting the "English" subtitles matches the Japanese script.

It's interesting to note that the English Dub script includes a lot of extra lines that never existed in the original. :rolleyes:

There are 5 English subtitle streams on this disc.

Stream 00 is English, wide
Stream 01 is English, letterbox
Stream 02 is English, wide
Stream 03 is English, letterbox
There is also a CC stream.

00/01 and 02/03 are equivalent streams in different display positions, as is often done when authoring widescreen and they want text in different positions for 4:3 or 16:9 TVs.

00/01 are the dub script, 02/03 are the English subtitles for the Japanese script. The CC stream matches 00/01, except that it's all in upper case.

I expect that Spirited Away will be the much the same. Kiki, which is also in distribution right now, was dubbed before Disney acquired Ghibli distribution rights. I don't have it on DVD, and don't know how the subs look.

papachronos
3rd May 2003, 14:50
Hi, and thanks for the info. However, I can't seem to get VobSub to rip anything but the English dub track on Laputa. VobSub presents me with four English tracks when I try to rip subtitles, but when I follow your advice and try to rip tracks 02/03 I get junk .idx and .sub files. When I ripped the vobs (using SmartRipper) the following info file was created:


Name: CASTLE_IN_THE_SKY
Size (B): 6148806656
Frames: 179212
Title: 1
Angle: 2
MinDataRate (B/s): 421774
AvgDataRate (B/s): 823396
MaxDataRate (B/s): 1871448


**************
* Video Info *
**************

Compression: MPEG-2
TV system: NTSC
Aspect ratio: 16:9
TV system: pan-scan
Display mode: 720x480
Resolution: no
Letterboxed: Camera
Mode:


***************
* Stream Info *
***************

Stream[001] X=[[0xE0] Video NTSC 720x480] [] [] [] []
Stream[002] X=[[0x80] Audio English AC3(6Ch) 48kHz Normal Caption] [] [] [] []
Stream[003] X=[[0x81] Audio Japanese AC3(2Ch) 48kHz Normal Caption] [] [] [] []
Stream[004] X=[[0x82] Audio Français AC3(2Ch) 48kHz Normal Caption] [] [] [] []
Stream[005] X=[[0x20] Subtitle English Normal Caption] [] [] [] []
Stream[006] X=[[0x21] Subtitle English Normal Caption] [] [] [] []
Stream[007] X=[[0x??] Others] [] [] [] []


From what it seems, the literal translation subtitle track isn't kept on the same vobs as the movie. Of course, I'm kind of new at this, so I might be wrong... any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks, Nick

jggimi
3rd May 2003, 15:12
Good question. I don't have any clear answers, just a suggestion or two:

You might try using DVD Decrypter -- it was the ripping tool I used. I also inspected the streams with VstripGUI, to make sure I was pointed at the right ones. Vobsub found a total of 5 subtitle tracks (the 4 "English" ones plus the Closed Caption track) and successfully extracted all of them.

Subrip also found the 4 main tracks -- you might try it. I started OCR with Subrip, but went back to Vobsub's Subresync for OCR, because the font was a little easier to manage there.

MasterYoshidino
4th May 2003, 05:56
weird, why don't they just make the script like "Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakusi" Region 2 DVD lol
All lines are translated ;o)
:D, don't know why you buoght the R1 dvd as it's not as good as the R2 DVD :rolleyes:

as for the question, try DVD Decrypter and make sure you know waht track to rip.

Schultz
4th May 2003, 07:25
Originally posted by MasterYoshidino
weird, why don't they just make the script like "Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakusi" Region 2 DVD lol
All lines are translated ;o)
:D, don't know why you buoght the R1 dvd as it's not as good as the R2 DVD :rolleyes:

as for the question, try DVD Decrypter and make sure you know waht track to rip.

just wondering why is the R1 not as good as the R2?