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[RB]

Well, I just ran stuff produced by DVDShrink through IC 7.02 and it worked flawlessly. I did however compress only a single menu in DVDShrink (IC just wouldn't compress it, strange) and left everything else uncompressed.

[ddepuemd]

I've been using DVD2One with great success for a while now and just checked back to the forums to see what's new. What is DVDshrink? How do you get a copy of it?

dean@depue.us

[mpucoder]

It should have been given in the first post, but the address is in the thread. http://www.dvdshrink.org/

[Gil T Pleasure]

Or get yourself DVDCopyDecrypter (aka, DVDStinks) for only $139.99 :D

[Grover]

Originally posted by RB
Well, I just ran stuff produced by DVDShrink through IC 7.02 and it worked flawlessly. I did however compress only a single menu in DVDShrink (IC just wouldn't compress it, strange) and left everything else uncompressed.


For DVD-9's where I want to keep the structure and menus intact, but have to go beyond Level 1-2 in DVDShrink for the main movie, then my standard method is to start with DVDShrink and decided what extras I want to keep (watchable) and set these to Level 8 or similar, what can be "still movied", and also deselect some audio's in main movie. Leave the main movie at no-compression. Run DVDSrhink and then take these "oversized" files over to IC7 to encode the main movie.
(setting the already encoded extras at 100% in IC7)

However - a few times when I have been struggling for space to get IC7 main movie above 80% I have re-encoded some of the already encoded by DVD Shrink extras again in IC7 to squash them down even more. Works for still movies too. I tend to leave the menus alone where I can as these can look really bad if done this way. But you'd be surprised at the "watchabilty" of the double-cooked extras.

For me the quality of the main movie is where it's at. This is what you are going to spend 120 minutes starting at. The extras, I tend to watch once and then maybe never again unless I want to look at something specicific.

(just though I'd throw in my $0.02 on the subject)

PS - When is Mr DVDShrink back from holidays ? He said he was going for a couple of weeks and that was a month ago ... :) Come Back Soon. We Miss You......

[RB]

Yeah, my preferred method now for DVDs where I want to keep the menus and extras is to compress the menus and extras in IC and set the main movie to 100%. Extract everything from the oversized PDIs, encode main movie with CCE and stuff it back in with IFOUpdate. Has worked flawlessly every time and IMHO is the easiest way to achieve very good results with reasonable effort.

[waldok]

Hi,

I did some testing on DVDShrink about reencoding extras. I used to do everything by hand with DIF4U, DOCCE4U and reauthorist, but sometimes it was getting a bit too complicated and not really worth the effort nor the time spent for poor extras (still, I like to have a REAL backup, identical to the original).

So I gave DVDShrink a try by ignoring the main movie (used the stills option on it) and focusing on the extras, reencoding menus and extras to a more reasonable size. Results were surprisingly good (I chose level 5 most of the time, except for some "drawing slideshows" or animated logos where I chose the lowest possible level).

Then I ran DIF4U on the main movie VTS, deleted the Vobs corresponding to the movie generated by DVDShrink(encoded as stills), fed DIF4U calculator with the DVDShrink directory as the "extras directory", and it calculated bitrates for the movie to fit in. I then ran the usual DIF4U + DOCCE4U + Reauthorist + Scenarist process as usual. Reintegrated the movie in the DVDShrink-created folder, applied IFOUpdate on it, burnt, and the result was just...great.

Maybe this free tool is the way to go as an "not so complex but good-quality solution" between doing all the process by hand and using a one-click tool (that may not provide the best possible quality for the movie). Here I had perfect quality on the movie (as usual with the "by hand" method, and satisfactory quality on extras with very little complexity involved. The initial movie has no less than 19 VTS, one of them contraining 92 PGCs (yes, 92). I wouldn't deal with this kind of PGC "by hand", so DVshrink was very useful here.

Hope this little experience will be of some use to others here.

Waldok:cool:

[thop]

thanks a lot to the dvd squeeze a**hole :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[]V[aurizio]

Originally posted by RB
[...]Extract everything from the oversized PDIs, encode main movie with CCE and stuff it back in with IFOUpdate. [...]

How do you actually extract everything from the PDIs ?
Thanks 4 your reply.

[RB]

With PDIXtract: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46206

[Grover]

With PDIXtract: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46206

I use PDI2ISO and then mount that .iso file as a drive letter with DAEMON.

Is that the same result by a different path..?

Cheers.


PS - anyone seen a good guide for learning DVD2DVD-R (specifically the setting of bitrates for CCE)

[RB]

Esentially, yes. But PDIXtract is faster for me because I can extract individual files from the PDI's directly. So I extract everything but the main movie VOB's and then encode from the original VOBs that I have on my hard disk anyway.

[dvdgeneration]

Dvdshrink is ace and made me buy a dvd-r drive earlier than I planned....

I have been checking the forums over the last couple of weeks and haven't heard anything from him since the 21st of April.... Is dvdshrink still being developed? Any news when the next version will come out?

Thanx

[Gil T Pleasure]

Because of DVDCopyDecrypter, I wouldn't blame DVDShrink (the author) if s/he lost interest in further developing DVDShrink (the software). :(

[mpucoder]

Despite what I posted in another thread about DVDShrink 1.04 (I have a beta) it will not be released. Version 1.03 is the last DVDShrink. The technology will go into a new program called DVD Backup Studio, with a brand new look. That is what I know, now what I'm guessing is there will be more measures to prevent things like DVDCopyDecrypter from happening, and that it will not be freeware.

[mrbass]

personally I'm glad that'll happen. Too many of the wrong people are making money. I'll gladly pay for the new dvdshrink (whatever the name) as I like it's interface and functionality.

[Toona]

yeah thats sounds good to me I would pay for a new version thats fully workin and has got rid of the current problems any ETA's on that new software??

[Grover]

The technology will go into a new program called DVD Backup Studio, with a brand new look. That is what I know, now what I'm guessing is there will be more measures to prevent things like DVDCopyDecrypter from happening, and that it will not be freeware.
Excellent news. Sounds like DVDShrink has learnt a few valuable lessons. But it's great that he/she (let's assume "he" for the sake of simplicity) is not "once bitten twice shy".

The program itself was (still is) too good to simply stop development. And why shouldn't he make some $$$ for all his hard work.

Put me down for a copy. :)

[thop]

i agree with all of it. i'll gladly pay for the new dvdshrink. i hope he hurries up though ;) i cant wait!

[mpucoder]

DVDShrink, the person, hasn't been here recently as he is busy coding. I know that feeling, as I used to be able to get in that zone myself years ago. Here's the latest, used with permission, from an email:
"DVD Backup Studio is scheduled for release in the beginning of June
although God knows I'm not sure I'll make it. Building a complete new UI
which is hard work. I think you tech people will like it because moving
away from the wizard interface.

Apart from that no major internal changes except for most of the 1.03
bugs being fixed, and macrovision etc.

Encoding engine will remain the same, except I have possibly fixed the
jerky playback problem on some standalones and in the process I found a
rather nasty bug which caused 10-20% loss of compression for no gain in
quality in all previous versions. Don't even ask! So now fairly
optimistic that where level 3 was required before, level 2 will be
sufficient, maybe better... (haven't fixed it entirely yet)."

[thop]

good news. IMO the gui was perfect already though. but its his app so it's his choice :)

[NedDorsey]

Originally posted by mpucoder
... Here's the latest, used with permission, from an email:
"...except I have possibly fixed the
jerky playback problem on some standalones..."

FYI, DVDShrink (hope you're reading this)... Through extensive frame-by-frame testing I have noticed the jerky playback or frame tear at the exact same frame in PowerDVD (software DVD player), and GoVideo DVR4400 - but it played fine on my Apex AD-1500. So it's not just a standalone issue. Maybe the Apex AD-1500 has/lacks error correction that the other's do/don't?

...Anxiously awaiting your updated product, even though I like the simplicity of the current.

[dvdgeneration]

So it sounds like we are stuck with version 1.03 even though there a some encoding bugs in it. wish he would just release a bug fix for those...

any chance of that beta 1.04 being released?

Can't wait till the new program comes out....

[Toona]

wow thats great news from DVDshrink keep up the good work!!

[mmorris]

I agree that DVD Shrink is great. I've tried most of the "easy" programs and this is the only one I have kept. I never thought I'd stop using CCE and Maestro but the time this program saves makes me use it most of the time. I only keep the main movies so it does a great job.

[mmorris]

I just make a video_ts folder directly from DVD Shrink. You can do this under the browse button in DVD Shrink. No need to move anything.

Originally posted by kenshin
one awesome app... only found out about this app today, used it on my sakura >5GB dvd and blueseed dvd1 >7.66GB and works wonderfully :)

only problem is imgtool wants a VIDEO_TS directory which dvdshrink doesn't do, just needed to move the files

[glocker]

Great program, sad to hear that the freeware edition will stop due to the ingrates who stole his work. Good luck DVD Shrink, anxiously waiting for your next release...I'll gladly pay for it..

[cypher_soundz]

I will gladly pay for this product, hopefully the more people who buy this product, the better it will become (can it get any better?) give and take a few bugs this software is 10/10! Just say the word "dvdshrink" and i will gladly devote my life to hunting down and killing the makers (can you call then makers?...Repackers? :D) of DVDCopyDecrypter ;)

Regards

Cyph

[papillon]

Only when I am certain that when there is a new release, it is from the original and copyrighted owner of DVDShrink, then I will purchase it!!!

[Richk50]

"The program itself was (still is) too good to simply stop development. And why shouldn't he make some $$$ for all his hard work."

I agree.
Though in my limited experience of 2 start up companies, everything you need to do costs a lot of money(with no guarantee of a profit) and uses up all your time, especially if you're involved with lawyer's. He may need to get someone to handle the business end if he wants to continue developing his product.

[thop]

I vote to remove the sticy from this thread.