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Antonio S.
9th April 2003, 22:20
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mrbass
9th April 2003, 23:24
wow....that's a lot of changes for within 2 days...someone find out where dvdshrink is vacationing so we can call him via cellphone if we need to get in contact with him. Who authorized his vacation btw?
Removed support for multi-angle from re-author. Too many problems. Adding support again will require a virtual rewrite of the re-author module. User is now offered only angle 1, which will prevent crashes.
that is SWEEEET
mrbass
10th April 2003, 00:46
Originally posted by cupfart
So this program is almost perfect. The ONLY thing that needs to be added is the ability to reencode so you can include ALL the menus and exclude the extra info.
Or you can re-encode, but you have to include all the extras. Yea, you can downsize them, but even if you'd downsize everything in level 4 the DVD would be too big for a dvdr. What doesn't make sense is that you can exclude audio streams by unchecking them... why can you not exclude the movie too? That's the only think I think that needs to be added.
If I am missing something, please let me know, but it looks like that feature is missing. Once that is added this program will beat the rest of the competition.
ok your wish came true with DVDShrink 1.03...keep everything a do a 1:1 then for the extras you think are crap give it Still Movie compression level around 87% or so.
from release notes:
Added "Still Movie" encoding: only copy the I-pictures, heavily compressed. This gives huge compression as an alternative to deletion of the entire video stream, which people seem to want, but re-encoder module can't handle, because it alters the navigation structure of the DVD. Audio and subpicture streams will still play normally.
MackemX
10th April 2003, 00:52
hmmmmmmmm, interesting could be useful :D
p.s. no one read the joke yet?
mrbass
10th April 2003, 01:18
all I wanna know MisterX....does the Still Movie option do it for you?
MackemX
10th April 2003, 01:22
not sure yet, I'm busy sending a DVD to Pinnacle to fix the 'phantom MB'
it's unreal, its a 200MB DVD and it's zipped right down to 800kb :D
what's it do then?
mrbass
10th April 2003, 02:32
well I tried it out and it works good....at least in PowerDVD. You can keep you 1:1 and basicially compress all the crap at around 90% compression ratio using Still Movie. I doubt I'll use it...maybe once in a while but this does achieve I think what many were clamoring for.
MackemX
10th April 2003, 02:40
yeah I've just tried it, it still uses space that can be saved by using Ifoedit but the files are still tiny. It's good and nearly what I need and for nothing it's excellent
just checking on resulting files and IC accepts the files and can process them no bother but DVD95Copy chokes on them
If it cud replace the video with a blank file instead it would be bloomin great :D
why's he gone on holiday :confused:, guess I'll have to wait before I ask him if it's possible to do :(
it's easily done cos I can just remux the blank myself after, but it wud be nice
top marks to DVDShrink and keep up the good work
has he gotta donation option setup yet?
mrbass
10th April 2003, 02:51
Originally posted by MisterX
has he gotta donation option setup yet? [/B]
hot dog...diggie...for last time...hehe NO he doesn't but give me your cell # and I'll call you when he does. But it doesn't look like he's gonna do that though...more for the love of programming.
Anyone know Level 1 thru 4 are those the SAME? Level 5 thru 8 those are doing what exactly B,P, and I pictures? Still Movie is just like a slideshow but audio works at normal speed and so do subtitles.
mpucoder
10th April 2003, 04:10
Note for those frantically looking for this new version (which doesn't appear at www.dvdshrink.org for me) it is in the news at http://www.doom9.org/
Also some mirrors, such as MrBass' http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/ have been updated.
Also - don't make the mistake of going to mrbass dot com unless you like popups and domain name scalpers, his site is a dot ORG
Sbofen
10th April 2003, 07:22
Originally posted by mrbass
hot dog...diggie...for last time...hehe NO he doesn't but give me your cell # and I'll call you when he does. But it doesn't look like he's gonna do that though...more for the love of programming.
Anyone know Level 1 thru 4 are those the SAME? Level 5 thru 8 those are doing what exactly B,P, and I pictures? Still Movie is just like a slideshow but audio works at normal speed and so do subtitles.
Check the help file, under Re-encode -> Customize Streams :D
herrde
10th April 2003, 10:06
Hi,
tried version 1.03 last night and encountered some problem. Not too sure if it relates to DVD Shrink though... maybe someone of you can explain this
I did a copy of "Minority Report" Disc 1 (PAL Region 2, German). It's quite huge, some 7.75 GB, so I only kept the German audio and reduced the main movie to level 6. I also reduced the menu and the various company trailers, but can't remember the level.
Anyway, the resulting files played fine from my hard disk using PowerDVD, but when I burned them on DVD using RecordNow Max 4.1 as always and tried it afterwards, my standalone as well as PowerDVD stopped playing right after the opening "20th Century Fox Home Entertainment" trailer.
OK - this looks like something went wrong during the burning process (could be that the DVD media wasn't good), because PowerDVD stops playback at the same position as my standalone, but I never had this before, and RecordNow Max burned the disc without any error message.
So I am wondering if anyone ran into a similar problem with version 1.03...
All the best,
G.
waldok
10th April 2003, 12:06
Man, This is a good one :D
I'm still laughing :)
Waldok:cool:
Ishan
10th April 2003, 12:10
Look like it doesn't patch macrovision bit like dvd2one does.
i've had to roll back to detonator 40.72 else no macrovision dvd playback on powerdvd :mad:
Think twice about installing the last detonator :(
int 21h
10th April 2003, 15:19
Just rip the files with DVDDecrypter first (until DVDShrink author returns), that will remove the Macrovision.
Ishan
10th April 2003, 15:40
I know that, i'm not stupid :rolleyes:
but i'm a lazy man :D
shasha
10th April 2003, 15:52
Originally posted by waldok
Man, This is a good one :D
I'm still laughing :)
Waldok:cool:
Me too!
wangofree
10th April 2003, 16:58
Dvd shrink 1.03, DVD2ONE, dvd95copy, PIC, etc....all moving forward -that's exciting - makes me wonder what will be avaliable a year from now. :confused: Is it time to compile the "list" - the holy grail of what the perfect "one button" program would do? :)
muralin
10th April 2003, 17:45
happy with what we have today (as i do movie only).
would luv to have a plugin to integrate dvddecrypter. dont know if dvd shrink's decryption will clobber the laser of my dvd drive.
Fortunado
10th April 2003, 21:10
I've used DVD Shrink on the fly (i.e. with DVD in the drive) 3 times now and my laser is still just jolly.
Let's think about it like this... DVD players are designed to stream movies out and movies last 90+ minutes usually. So flogging your drive with read activity shouldn't be a problem since they are designed to take (and even enjoy) a good flogging.
F
pkstomak
10th April 2003, 23:03
Originally posted by wangofree
Dvd shrink 1.03, DVD2ONE, dvd95copy, PIC, etc....all moving forward -that's exciting - makes me wonder what will be avaliable a year from now. :confused: Is it time to compile the "list" - the holy grail of what the perfect "one button" program would do? :)
I'm not the first to ask for it, maybe it's impossible to do for any reason but if I could use an external encoder like, I don't know, something like, erh...CCE?? it would be perfect! And don't start to argue that there is DoCCE4u, I want something that can keep the original DVD structure without the trouble of using Scenarist wich is a pain in the behind even when you know how to use it (and it takes many many hours or trials and errors to get there...).
wangofree
11th April 2003, 00:34
I just loaded v 1.03 of DVDShrink, and again like its' previous version it has stopped with an "unexplained error". :confused:
It's a fun little program, and I'll keep trying it until it smooths out.
devanand50
11th April 2003, 15:50
How do I get rid of this? Please HELP
I am using DVD Shrink 1.03 and followed the instructions from the Movie Only Guide posted on these forms. I used the movie only Guide and burned the movie on Pioneer A04 with Parrsi's burning software. The movie burned ok and when I installed it in my stand alone DVD player, this is what I got - a graphic that resembales file folder with the following - Menu and the box with type: ROOT (on the left side) and all the movie files names on the right side - VTS_01_1,VTS_01_2, VTS_01_3,VTS_01_5, VTS_01_5 with each file name a RED icon before the file name. You can nevigate through these files with your remote. Also there is a box at the bottom that says Play Mode.
My problem:
1. How do get rid of this from the DVD - I just want the movie to start?
2. When you skip chapters, I loose the Audio and have to go back to the above menu and start all over again to have the audio.
What am I doing wrong? Please HELP
Thanks.
Jeff
rkeller
11th April 2003, 16:42
just finished doing a 1:1 copy of "Ratrace" with DVD Shrink 1.03.
(main purpose to get rid of region code 1 for my region code 2 stand alone)
Quality is not so much of an issue to me, just wanted to have the entire DVD incl. everything on a region free DVD-R.
Here's details in short:
- "Current DVD size" shown in "DVD Shrink": 7.33GB
- "Target DVD size" selected: DVD-5 (4.7GB)
- "Re-Encode"
- not customizing any streams
- selected "Level-8" (estimated 4.21GB)...
- Target DVD Regions: selected "1" and "2"
- resulting size of all files after all encoding was done: 4.39GB (4.710.436.964 Bytes), TOO BIG for a DVD-R!!
- run DVD Shrink again over some additional stuff (again Level-8) ;-)
- finally got 4.677.433.344 Byte, good enough for a DVD-R
Problems:
- the estimated DVD size (4.21GB) was not kept, it might be necessary to enter a custom value (e.g. 4.1GB?) in order to have a burnable size at the end.
- RCE coding (region code) was in place, I needed to run IFOEdit over the IFO files to get rid of the RCE before burning, so the Region selections described above were not usefull.
Facit:
- After know-how was gained, I finally got a DVD-R out of the 7.33GB DVD which was working with my stand-alone (Samsung) as well as with my PC's Pioneer DVR-105 compatible (OEM, Buffalo) and all menus, sub-titles, languages and features.
- Only 3 programs needed (DVD Shrink, IFOEdit and Nero) for a finished DVD.
- PC can be used during DVD Shrink's running!!
- Quality of the movie: Still great on my TV set, but of course visible deterioration on a computer display (PowerDVD)
The features that were compressed 2x with Level-8, well....
/rkeller
Snollygoster
12th April 2003, 03:32
Hi,
I was doing Movie Only On-The-Fly copy of the 12 Monkeys DVD and I got an error at 68% about invalid Cell ID... Any ideas?
OK any given sunday gave me the same error at 52% (invalid vob_id and cell_id combination)...
Snollygoster
12th April 2003, 06:36
OK, weird thing here...
I have a Pioneer DVD-120 which is RPC2 and it failed to rip 3 out of 3 DVD's giving me the error I posted above.
I also have a Pioneer DVR-105 patched to the region free 1.30 firmware and this one managed to rip 2 out of 2 DVD's so far (same DVD's as I tried with the DVD-120)...
So... Does it matter if your drive is region-locked? I guess so...
rkeller
12th April 2003, 10:38
hm, my Pioneer DVR-105, firmware 1.00, is region locked (RPC2), but did the ripping job without problems.
/rkeller
bern
12th April 2003, 16:47
Did Harry Potter chamber of secrets ripped with smart ripper then trancoded 1:1 level 5 DVDshrink v1.03 reduced from 6.47gb to 4.07gb 20 mins for the transcode burned with Record now max. Results satifactory.
jhmac
12th April 2003, 17:41
devanand50
Check the back-up you made, was the contents put in a VIDEO_TS folder?
I use ImgTool to do my burning, you want to try different ones til you find the one that works.
Fortunado
Try ripping them with DVDDecrypter or SmartRipper. Do you get the same errors?
I don't use DVDShrink to rip the movies, I use DVDDecrypter...
Hope this helps!
mpucoder
12th April 2003, 18:59
@Snollygoster Region locked only matters if the dDVD is not the region you're locked to. But since you got some of the disk ripped, that's not the problem.
It looks to me like DVDShrink may have problems with your combination of drives, drivers, OS, and ASPI layer. There are so many layers that could give a problem.
Or it could be speed related. While slow apps have one set of problems (spinning up and down) fast can be problematic as well. The drive will heat up, and if not properly ventilated most will shutdown to cool off. You could also get an increase in misreads due to heat buildup.
What happens if you start over right away, without removing the DVD? Does it go to the same point, or quit really early?
abatis
14th April 2003, 00:05
Anyone else have a problem with Pulp Fiction and the Shrink. I tried both a straight rip direct from the disk and also processing the movie after a DVDdecyptor rip and it can't finish the job. Fortunaltely I have DVD95Copy1.2.4 and that was able to make a nice backup.
What kind of structures stop the shrink?
Arky
14th April 2003, 05:13
Coincidentally, I have a Pioneer DVD-120s as well, and I failed to rip LOTR Extended Ed. Disc 2, with SmartRipper failing right at the very end (but not actually giving an error message - it simply popped up a dialogue saying "do you wish to quit ripping?", to which I replied "no", and it immediately said "ripping complete" thereafter). DVD Decrypter also failed, saying "There were no vulnerable blocks" or something to that effect. I was using the "Brute Force" method, cos I hadn't yet regionalised my drive. DVD Shrink also failed to rip, simply saying, during analysis, that an error had occurred and it was going to exit.
I found that by regionalising my drive, I no longer had the problem, with DVD Shrink proving to be quite content with the pre-rip analysis after that point.
I have not had the same problem since my drive was regionalised - presumably there are limits to the "Brute Force" approach, which do not apply with key-exchange methods, but I am no expert on the technicalities of ripping.
The above issues aside, I am absolutely chuffed to bits with DVD Shrink - it does everything I need and in double-quick time. Bear in mind that I am more into authoring than I am into backing up, so I only want a fast-and-dirty approach on the rare occassions that I feel a DVD9=>DVD5 backup is necessary. Quality seems to be not exactly pristine, but nevertheless acceptable with compression ratios of not higher than 40%, which actually surprised me somewhat. I always try to compress as little as possible, by, for example, dispensing with DTS soundtracks and the like. DVD Shrink does a very good job, especially considering the price! :D
Arky ;o)
biffy40
15th April 2003, 19:09
Originally posted by Arky
....
I found that by regionalising my drive, I no longer had the problem, with DVD Shrink proving to be quite content with the pre-rip analysis after that point.
.....
Arky ;o)
How do you regionalise your drive?
2COOL
15th April 2003, 23:17
Originally posted by biffy40
How do you regionalise your drive?
Read Arky's recent post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=295990#post295990) in the burning forum.
GhostPoet
17th April 2003, 17:09
I'm new to DVD ripping...and man am I lost. Not even instructions could help me. :P
I downloaded DVD Shrink and used it on my The Transporter dvd..it made a folder with a bunch of files in it and even a file that can be opened with MyDVD (the burning program) and...when I open that file...there's nothing in it...argh..i'm so confused...any help? What do I do with all these files? How can I put the movie onto another dvd...and will I lose quality if I just put the movie (minus menus and extras) onto the dvd-r? If I lose quality..how can I put it on 2...wow..am I lost. I thought this would be easier....
wakebrder
18th April 2003, 15:27
There is no need to use DVD shrink on the Transporter. The 16x9 side is 4.36 GB.(complete) So, just decrypt with your favorite ripping program, and burn.
From the sound of your post, you need to do some extensive reading of the guides. DVD Shrink is a relatively simple program, so it shouldn't take very long for you to be on your way.
kenshin
18th April 2003, 16:05
one awesome app... only found out about this app today, used it on my sakura >5GB dvd and blueseed dvd1 >7.66GB and works wonderfully :)
only problem is imgtool wants a VIDEO_TS directory which dvdshrink doesn't do, just needed to move the files
thop
19th April 2003, 17:54
I just ripped Snatch with DVD Decrypter and also patched the IFOs and BUPs to be region free (btw. is it sufficient to patch VIDEO_TS.* ? cause i patched all :confused: ) and when i load the VIDEO_TS.IFO into DVD Shrink 1.03 and click on Re-encode dvdshrink reports an error "file doesn't exist" and stops.
Oh and congratulations on such a nice program. I'd surely donate a few bucks if you ever consider to accept donation :)
thop
19th April 2003, 18:13
Tried Brotherhood of the Wolfs now, and get the error "hseek failed" after i've only added the main movie to dvdshrink. If gives the same "file doesn't exist" error when i try to process the full dvd.
thop
19th April 2003, 21:11
false alarm. IC7 reports the same thing. ripped the files again with dvddecrypter 3.1.40 (bogus files were with 3.1.50) and now it works like a charm.
kenshin
19th April 2003, 23:25
would be nice if dvdshrink could batch process dvds like dvdsvcd :)
thop
20th April 2003, 01:08
Is it possible to make DVDShrink use black instead of stills? They are still 0.xx GB in size sometimes, and who watches stills anyway.
Gil T Pleasure
21st April 2003, 05:54
I know I'm being selfish, but I hope DVDShrink is back from his vacation so he can finally add more features to this already awesome app. ;)
DMagic1
21st April 2003, 21:51
I think there need to me more control in the shrink percentage. I had a movie I was working on with Shrink. On one setting, 20% I think, the movie as predicted to be 4.5gb. On the next available setting, 30%, the movie was predicted to be 3.9gb. That would leave so much unused room on the disk. That space could be used for a better picture quality. It needs setting that are closer together percentage wise between 20-30%. Maybe 25%
timmmay
24th April 2003, 14:59
Originally posted by DMagic1
I think there need to me more control in the shrink percentage. I had a movie I was working on with Shrink. On one setting, 20% I think, the movie as predicted to be 4.5gb. On the next available setting, 30%, the movie was predicted to be 3.9gb. That would leave so much unused room on the disk. That space could be used for a better picture quality. It needs setting that are closer together percentage wise between 20-30%. Maybe 25%
What if you make it slightly oversized with dvdshrink then do it over with dvd2one to get it exactly at 4.36? I just love both programs!
]V[aurizio
24th April 2003, 15:02
Here is my contribution: (I am referring to DVD Shrink version 1.03)
BUG: I found out that the resulting movie displays a few black frames when reproduced. I have tried with a couple of DVDs (Road To Perdition, The Four Feathers) at different levels of compression. I got the same 2-5 black frames at the same points on each movie.
SUGGESTION: It would be really great (IMHO) if the software, as an alternative to the compression levels, allowed us to multiplex an external m2v file instead. I could demux the movie (or any extra contents) to a file, compress it with my favourite tool (TMPEG, CCE, MainConcept, etc...) and then rebuild the whole DVD using the resulting new M2V(s).
Both speed-over-quality and quality-over-speed funs would be happy then !
On a final note, I am really impressed with the professional look and feel of the user interface. My best compliments, buddy.
]V[aurizio.
mpucoder
24th April 2003, 15:46
But you can do that with IfoEdit.
]V[aurizio
24th April 2003, 16:13
@mpucoder:
I have experienced sooo many problems with this option on IFOEdit. Sometimes the audio goes out of sync, so do the subtitles. Most of the times the video is not perfect played fluently (see the TMPEG/Chapters workaround). In any case I still have to recreate the DVD structure (unless I go for the Movie only option).
What I have enjoyed using DVD Shrink is the option to have the whole DVD structure in a single GUI. I would use the LEVEL compression for extras and menus, and use the Remux option for the movie, everything from within the same program.
I am currently using DoItFast4U to fully backup my DVDs (and I loved learning to use Scenarist, too!!) but we both know that this process takes ages and still has problems (it seems that I badly need the new release of DIF4U, uh?).
DVD Shrink would do the job much faster. That's it.
]V[.
Gripweed
25th April 2003, 01:04
Originally posted by timmmay
What if you make it slightly oversized with dvdshrink then do it over with dvd2one to get it exactly at 4.36? I just love both programs!
Won't work. I tried many times with all versions of Shrink and DVD2One. You will get an "Encrypted Data Detected" error anytime you try to run DVDShrink-produced files through DVD2One. It doesn't matter whether the originals were decrypted with DVDDeCrypter, SmartRipper, or DVDShrink itself or if the originals were encryption free to begin with. Everytime it will happen. Try it yourself. It's easy enough to do.
TeFLoN
1st May 2003, 02:06
I AGREE 100 % with Gripweed! I've done a test run on that and it gave the same error as described.
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