Capture Guide Suggestions

[killingspree]

Originally posted by BaronVlad

steVe: Could you please merge this ?

sure can as my written final exam (Abi) is over now... i just missed what i should merge... :confused: i'll do it right away tomorrow (too tired today...)

steVe

[Wilbert]

@killingspree
i just missed what i should merge...
I changed it for you:

1.8 changes by Wilbert (30/04)
- changed preface.html
- added NTSC resizing part
- changed processing_avisynth.html
- added NTSC resizing part
- updated processing.html
- added NTSC resizing

Changes are based on the link: http://www.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/conversion/
Maybe you can add this link in preface.html and in links.html.

Could you merge it with your latest changes. I uploaded the three html files to my webpage:

http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/new_html0705.zip

After you sent it to BaronVlad he can make his changes/updates. The results of the NTSC test captures (which nobody sent yet) can be added in a new version if necessary.

[killingspree]

thanks a lot (: greatly appreiated.

i'm going to merge the files as soon as possible (my computer is currently doing some encoding) and send a copy to bvlad. also i'm going to upload the new version to my webspace... i guess we are then ready for a new improved release...

just wondering if it wouldn't be smarter to do the tasks that are still open before releasing the new version. i mean something about a logo filter can't be too much work, if you really want me to i could do it... would require a few days though...
also i do not know what you exactly want to do with lenox's filters... do you just want to mention them, give a short explanation on what they do, or do you want to write an actual guide?
about the card <-> quality issues, how do you want to incorporate that? do you want to do a seperate page like the audio HQ excursions etc? doesn't this rather belong into a FAQ? just wondering... (:

steVe

[Wilbert]

just wondering if it wouldn't be smarter to do the tasks that are still open before releasing the new version. i mean something about a logo filter can't be too much work, if you really want me to i could do it... would require a few days though...
I think it is better to leave that for a next update. Cause I also want to add "delogo" using AviSynth. It is always better not to rush things ...


also i do not know what you exactly want to do with lenox's filters... do you just want to mention them, give a short explanation on what they do, or do you want to write an actual guide?
My idea is that when it is possible to deinterlace using GKnot (I guess that will be if the telecide and separatefields options are added), we can do the cropping, resizing and deinterlacing in GKnot itself. (Instead of loading the complete script in GKnot.)

[killingspree]

ok... i've merged your changes with the other files and uploaded it:

http://members.tripod.de/stefanstrobl/download.htm
http://members.tripod.de/stefanstrobl/changelog.txt

[edit:]ok, webspace seems to work again (:[edit]

@baronvlad: i've mailed you a copy (:

so this should be it...

steve

[BaronVlad]

Thank you steVe, I got the copy.

Wow, Wilbert, a whole lot of work with the PAL, NTSC..., it looks quite complete now.

One thing: In the GKnot part the audio should be corrected (select the bitrate in the main tab, not the wav) ;)

Just saw, that len0x said something about putting some other deinterlacer into the script (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51832&perpage=20&pagenumber=2). Is it then possible for you, Wilbert to use GKnot, or should we go online and edit this part later on, btw I didnt get why you cant use GKnot. If you have the wrong deinterlacer, just edit the script, the rest can be done...

maybe: :stupid:

;)

[Wilbert]

One thing: In the GKnot part the audio should be corrected (select the bitrate in the main tab, not the wav) :)
:D :D :D I forgot that one. I will send it on monday to you.


Is it then possible for you, Wilbert to use GKnot, or should we go online and edit this part later on,
I think it is better to edit this part later on, because it cost a lot of time.

Oh, and don't forget this :) :
Changes are based on the link: http://www.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/conversion/ Maybe you can add this link in preface.html [instead of the "reference ?"] and in appendix.html.

If you have the wrong deinterlacer, just edit the script, the rest can be done...
Yeah, maybe you are right.

[killingspree]

ok i've written the logo removal part now... it's rather short but i've added all the links to the detailed explanations descriptions.

no pictures have been added so you'll only need to dl the htmlfiles.zip

comments are greatly appreciated, i'm sure this part still needs improvement!

steVe

dl: (sorry i cannot access my webspace right now, will upload later - please PM until then)

[BaronVlad]

Thanks for your mail and the implementation of the logo filter steVe. :)

I sent you a mail back with some changes regarding the appendix and preface.

Please tell me what you think of it.

I think we are close to "Capture Guide version 2.0" :D

[ADLANCAS]

Hi,

in Capture Guide, capter - 4.2 using AviSynth:
"You have to find the settings only once. For the next capture you can use the same values, provided you don't change them in the capture settings."

and I followed the instructions and found that from TV capture I need same values, but from VHS I need to change them. I have tested with some captures to get this results and didn´t changed capture settings.

Do I need different values depending on my source ?
Depends on how good is my tapes?

my scripts is:
saturation=0.9
cu=-(1-saturation)*256
ColorYUV(off_y=1,gain_y=-3,cont_u=cu,cont_v=cu) # for TV capture
ConvertToYV12()
Histogram()

for VHS capture the best values are => gain_y=10

I know that you are making a review of this guide, but maybe this is important to explain the right way to make color adjustment.

Thanks,

Alexandre

[killingspree]

hi
thanks for your input
indeed you are right. if you switch sources you will also have to adjust your settings again. I think that you will not find two devices (TV, VCR, Camcoder) that have the same output. i guess we should mention that in the guide

thanks again
steVe

[BaronVlad]

As we have finished version 2.0 this thread is closed and I started a new one here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54067