To Gabest and T.V. Zuggy

[Fasola_Jan]

Hi :)

Please, make an experiment:
Rip subs to .sub file with VobSub and convert it to .srt file with SubRip two times:
- With “Ignore IFO when IDX present” option DISABLED, and
- With “Ignore IFO when IDX present” option ENABLED.

There is a difference in subs timings!

Example:
Option ENABLED:

1
00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,799
<i>(PA) Unscheduled incoming traveller.</i>

2
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,477
There's no one scheduled.

3
00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,068
- Did you get an iris code?
- Yes, sir. From SG-1.

4
00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,119
Hi. How are you?



Option DISABLED:
1
00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,079
<i>(PA) Unscheduled incoming traveller.</i>

2
00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,757
There's no one scheduled.

3
00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,348
- Did you get an iris code?
- Yes, sir. From SG-1.

4
00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,399
Hi. How are you?



Any idea?
VobSub or SubRip is wrong?

SubRip 1.03
VobSub 2.16

Bye.
Fasola

[Fasola_Jan]

Link to sample subs:

http://www.geocities.com/fasola_jan/Files/2x08_FAMILY_subs.zip


Right-click on link and "save as..."

Bye.
Fasola

[zuggy]

VobSub is right, as usually...

You should have this "ignore..." option enabled all the time you rip .sub to avoid this desynch. VobSubs are copy of subt-stream, but with some small corrections, when I'm right. That's why SubRip uses the *good* timecodes from IDX files...

[Fasola_Jan]

Hi :)

Thank You for Your answer :)

To sum it up:
Vob -> SubRip is less accurate than
Vob -> idx+sub(no ifo) -> SubRip
Correct?


PS.
What do You think about Closed Caption?
Just asking :)

Bye.
Fasola

[zuggy]

Hi,

To sum it up:
VOB - nearly the same
SUB - same when IDX used, in other case SubRip is wrong - that was even the reason why the "ignore..." checkbox was made

CC - I don't know any DVD with it, so not in this time.

[Yusaku]

zuggy: you're from Prague? I can supply you some when I return, if you want to play :)

But the graphedit way is already working, so...

[zuggy]

Yusaku: I think so too. But you can write some certain titles here.
And 100 km from Prague...

[Yusaku]

I'm sure there are many, but AFAIK they are all R1 (or japanese R2 - well, just NTSC). The best one where you can try it that I know of is probably "Walking with..." series from BBC (at amazon) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000069HW4/qid=1029623715/sr=8-9/ref=sr_8_9/002-8004555-9234447?s=dvd&n=507846), as it has both CC and regular subs showing exactly the same... I can send you VOBs if you like, but I guess it'll be better to do this in persona :)