Will there be an option to do DVD to DVD-R in later versions

[t1955feb]

I made also 5 dvd+r with dvd to svcd and all perfect with subs remuxing Spruce up no problems.

[dvd2svcd]

Originally posted by Yeah Right
I have been using dvd2svcd to make my last 10 dvd-R. It works like a charm evrytime. The only 2 options im missing is to rip the subtitle and chapterlist, så evrything is ready to import into maestro.

So Mr. DVD2SVCD if your bored in the future, those 2 features would be desired. You do get a chapter list if you select DVD Chapters in the CD Image tab. It's called "dvd2svcd chapters file.ini" and the chapters is on a frame basis.

The subtitles is extracted too by dvd2svcd.

[Slick]

Originally posted by dvd2svcd
SpruceUP worked for me.

I have been following the various threads re: authuring for DVD.
and have tried the suggestions in your earlier thread which do work.
but I'm stumped as to how do you get Spruceup to accept the .ac3 audio file?
I can import the video but not the audio.

thanks

Andy

Sorry, Ignore this post I am sorted now (I think)

I just read that the .ac3 automatically loads when you use the .m2v file ;)

[Yeah Right]

I meant to rip the subtitles and chapterlist in a maestro (or scenarist) compatible format.

[Kryzzle]

@dvd2svcd:

Your guideline (s. above) helped a lot, but honestly, I do not understand the purpose of muxing with bbmpeg, since muxing will be performed using the authoring software in later steps, where I just use CCE_encoded*.mpv. Is it possible to omit the muxing step?

Furthermore, why would I want to increase the luminance by a value of 5? Is there any technical reason behind this which I don't get?

[marcovan]

For those that are trying to use use DVD2SVCD to create DVD-R here is the method I use when the movie is to big and I do not want to split it. The quality of the output is great. Just follow it step by step.

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/userguides/114252.php


Works like a charm!

[dvd2svcd]

Originally posted by Kryzzle
Your guideline (s. above) helped a lot, but honestly, I do not understand the purpose of muxing with bbmpeg, since muxing will be performed using the authoring software in later steps, where I just use CCE_encoded*.mpv. Is it possible to omit the muxing step?Nor do I ;). Anyway, there's no way to omit the muxing, except by stopping dvd2svcd and then bbMPEG when it start's to mux.

Originally posted by Kryzzle
Furthermore, why would I want to increase the luminance by a value of 5? Is there any technical reason behind this which I don't get? I find that a luminance of 5 is closer to the original dvd, however, it also depends on the filters you use in AviSynth.

[chuckwiseley]

I have followed mij's guide but can't seem to get a pulldown mpv at what I specify. I am using CCE 2.5

e.g. when doing the majestic, the bitrate settings are cd size=3900
max 8500
min 300
min ave 4200 [ticked]
max ave 4500

I get an mpv file that is 4.8 gig

when I try to lower the max bitrate I can get closer but nero says I am out of DVD compliance and fails reallocation.

done lots of svcd's but can't get a dvd over 4.5 gig

[Slick]

Hi Chuckwiseley

try this.
under Bitrate. set all No of disks = 1
set all size to 4300

set bitrates as follows.
max 6500
min 2000
max avg 6000

under audio. "do not convert audio"
under dvd2avi set NTSC field operation to "automatic" & luminance gain to "5"
under bbmpeg set advanced bbmpeg output settings to "MPEG2" (double click on the MPEG2 tab)
under cd images set "dont make images"
under misc set dvd2svcd level to "advanced" set input file type to DVD & output file type to MPEG2 & tick dont delete any files.

these settings will give you a single .mpv file & .ac3 file which equal around 4.3gig

I use these settings all the time & results are spot on every time.
(Note: dvd2svcd will only produce a pulldown.mpv when the source is NTSC)

if this dosent work then Email me direct I will send you my .ini file
it will set your parameters as mine are.

Slick

[raucous]

I just wanted to add as an aside that these settings work great for me, and I am using the Tsunami encoder (and DVD Maestro)

Fot the Tsunami encoder I set 2pass variable bitrate (VBR)
and in advanced I set GOP (top to bottom) (1, 5, 2, 1, 0), and selected output bitstream for edit (Closed GOP)

The encoding is painfully solw on my AMD XP 2000 (20 hours for 2.5 hour movie), but it looks great on 51" HDTV w/progressive scan.

On the VCDHelp FAQ it says to load the DVD Maestro output IFOs in IFOedit, and choose "Get VTS Sectors" before you burn it in Nero. I'm not sure why, but I do this just to be safe, I guess.

I did find a CCE SP 2.66 trial version, that never expires. I wonder if I can use it, and if it would be better or faster than Tsunami?

Peace,
__e

[chuckwiseley]

Originally posted by Kryzzle
@dvd2svcd:

Your guideline (s. above) helped a lot, but honestly, I do not understand the purpose of muxing with bbmpeg, since muxing will be performed using the authoring software in later steps, where I just use CCE_encoded*.mpv. Is it possible to omit the muxing step?

Furthermore, why would I want to increase the luminance by a value of 5? Is there any technical reason behind this which I don't get?

I simply created a batchfile fakebbmpeg.cmd in the bbmpeg directory that does nothing and point to it instead of runbbmpeg on the bbmpeg tab.

the text of fakebbmpeg simply has:

echo I am done

I know this forces me to manually change back if I create SVCDs but I haven't had to yet. DVD2SVCD simply ends without error after the pulldown and running the fakebbmpeg.cmd since there is nothing left to do.;)

[Josh]

I'm trying to use the outlines given by DVD2SVCD for making DVD-Rs, but I do not see a cd size of 1024 in the bitrate tab, the highest is 900mb. I figure that must be in an older version? Following those guidelines, does the movie get recognized as a dvd in a standalone player or still svcd?

[Slick]

Originally posted by Josh
Following those guidelines, does the movie get recognized as a dvd in a standalone player or still svcd?

yes it does. you are now creating a DVD format movie not a svcd.
the XXX.mpg file created by d2s is not used.

though I would suggest you read the rest of the thread.

Slick

[Midnight Tboy]

hiya....we're going to give it a try to dvd-r now at the full 720x576 resolution instead of putting CVD's to dvd-r



in the 1st reply to this thread DVD2SVCD wrote as step 4 :-

4. In the CCE tab under Advanced Settings Select "Close all GOPs"


why is that need to be done?
will it still work to put the mpv and the mp2 file I have made into spruceup without selecting to close all gops, or is it essential??

[Slick]

"Close all GOPs"
why is that need to be done?


I'm not sure why "Close all GOPs" needs to be done, but I would suggest you do. I'm sure a search on this subject will bear fruit ;)

will it still work to put the mpv and the mp2 file I have made into spruceup without selecting to close all gops, or is it essential??

I would suggest it is essential for the correct playing of the DVD in a standalone.

note: You will be using the .mpv file in spruceup. D2s does not produce a .mp2 ;)
also, if your movie is "NTSC" it will produce both a XXX.Mpv and a XXX_pulldown.Mpv. you must use the XXX_pulldown.Mpv or the sound will be out of sink.

p.s: don't forget to rename the XXX.mpv & the XXX.ac3 the same name or you will not get any sound. :D

[Midnight Tboy]

doh, only reason I was asking bout the GOP is that in past I've made CVDs without having to make any change like that, and still put them to dvd-r

so already tried to do it without changing the GOP option.

Reason I mentioned about the mp2 file, was sometimes, if it was a dvd I was ripping, then yeah I'd use the ac3 file, however I convert a lot of divxs too, which majority of dont have ac3 audio, so would have to use the 48khz mp2 like I used in CVD.


hopefully will get some results anyways

[mordant]

Is there a way to do 1 pass VBR and still have a correct file size? Somone wrote a guide for doing that with SVCD's awhile back. Would it apply to DVDr?

[sunmiztres]

i just wanted to say that i have been using dvd2svcd since it was available (use to do all the steps by "hand") and it worked great for svcd's. i am now doing dvd's using dvd2svcd and again it works great. you only have to change a few settings and BAM it works like a charm. just do what all the people are saying or follow all the guides available and i promise it will work. i save my settings for svcd, dvd with 1 movie, and dvd with 2 movies and all i have to do is load my settings on the misc tab and i am good to go for what i want to create. thanks dvd2svcd for the GREAT program!

[Josh]

I haven't tried re-encoding to DVDR due to fearing I may lose some of the image quality. Do you notice any decrease in quality re-encoding to make it fit on only 1 DVDR?

[sunmiztres]

i don't notice anything different when i reencode. I use cce and usually do a 3 pass and it looks like the original.

[DVD__GR]

keep in mind that close all gops will lower a bit the quality because gops referencings will be only in itself..i use open gops and never had a problem..

[Slick]

I haven't tried re-encoding to DVDR due to fearing I may lose some of the image quality. Do you notice any decrease in quality re-encoding to make it fit on only 1 DVDR?

Ask yourelf one question. how many 800mb disks do you normally back up to using svcd?
if it is less than 5. then then the quality you will achieve using DVD+-R is better not worse.......
ie: 4300kb on DVD 4000mb on 5 X 80 min cds.

but then if you re-encode svcd to DVD you will lose. IE: 480 X 480 (svcd) re-encoded to 720 X 480 (DVD) will equal Crap quality IMHO.
in other words back up your original DVD from DVD to DVDr :D

you will also get full 5.1 audio ;) .

[arman212]

Hello, this question has been asked but not answered. What has to be done to get subtitles onto a Maestro authored dvd. Looking at Trilight's dvd9-dvdr guide there are 2 different vid files that have to be used when authoring. How can I do all this from beginning to end. I will use the settings stated at the beginning of the post for dvd2svcd, as long as that is what I am supposed to do. I also want to keep the chapters. I am used to using Tmpgenc but I think I can use CCE if needed.

[ChickenMan]

Simply use SubRip to get Maestro compatable Subtitles from original DVD and also ChaperXtractor to get your Chapter points (also saved in Maestro format).

[hoozdapimp]

Originally posted by Slick

but then if you re-encode svcd to DVD you will lose. IE: 480 X 480 (svcd) re-encoded to 720 X 480 (DVD) will equal Crap quality IMHO.


this is simply not true. going from 480x480 to 720x480 is much easier than going the other way around. i have done some tests, and using cce, i didn't notice ANY quality loss.

[Slick]

Originally posted by hoozdapimp
this is simply not true. going from 480x480 to 720x480 is much easier than going the other way around. i have done some tests, and using cce, i didn't notice ANY quality loss.

Hi hoozdapimp

I did say IMHO. ;)

There have been numorous threads about what constitutes a good quality movie.

IE:
some like the quality of 1 pass CBR
others need 4 > passes VBR

it depends largely on the original bitrate used for the svcd.
some like 2 disk backups others like 5.

a typical svcd encoded at 2000 is never going to look good at 720x480 IMHO.

Personal taste.

:)

[Tw1st3dKn0t]

I have been using DVD2SVCD for about a month to backup my DVDs to DVD +r, this has worked very well with one small exception, DTS tracks :(. I can pull out the DD 5.1 but several of my DVDs have DTS and I would like not to have to use DVD2DVDr to pull out the audio tracks and than DVD2SVCD to encode (btw, DVD2SVCD does a much better job at encoding then DVD2DVDr, even though they both use cce).

I would also like to mention that I don't use Maestro or Spruce up or Pinnacle or whatever to make a DVD -+r, ifoedit 0.95 does it just fine... (there is a little button on top that reads "DVD author") than just drop it into Nero 5.5.10

Just my .02

Tw1st3d

btw, DVD2DVDr has a very nice capability of telling you the appropriate bitrate for a full DVD +/- r after you have deselected the subtitles and audio tracks you do not want, a very nice feature!!!

[menow]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunmiztres
just do what all the people are saying or follow all the guides available and i promise it will work. i save my settings for svcd, dvd with 1 movie, and dvd with 2 movies and all i have to do is load my settings on the misc tab and i am good to go for what i want to create.

sunmiztres,
is it possible for you to post you settings files for dvd w/ 1 movie and dvd with 2 movies? I've read most/all of the posts/guides and there are so many ways that i'm totally confused. it would be a big help if you could post them (or email them). thanks
wgzr@hotmail.com

[Josh]

I know it's only a personal preference, but personally I don't mind splitting the disk with ifoedit, that way you get everything still, even the bonus material if you want it. And there's never any worry about quality either because it's in the original dvd format. And no worries about dts, subs, or anything. If you need help on how to split dvds, we've been talking about it on this thread here. Just follow the guide on the link on page 1, or follow Chibi's way of doing it there on page 1 too. They both work and are pretty similar. The easiest/simplist guide is on the link to afterdawn.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44830

[Fmazzanti]

Originally posted by Tw1st3dKn0t
btw, DVD2SVCD does a much better job at encoding then DVD2DVDr, even though they both use cce.

Uhh... how can you say that? Both progs, AFAIK, *only* feed an .avs file to CCE which encodes them. As the encoding program is the same, differences can only be in the filters/tokens you put in the .avs file and/or the value of the parameters you put in CCE. But both things can betweaked in both programs, so I can't see your point.
Another story is that you run DVD2DVDr with default parameters. But that, of course, is not a problem with the program itself...

[dvd2svcd]

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