Guide: DVD-9 to DVD-5 "Full Copy" Instructions

[jdobbs]

riggz,

You don't normally use pulldown on a 29.97 interlaced original. It is meant only for FILM. Did you have DVD2AVI set for FORCE FILM or NONE? If you had a 29.97 interlaced original it should have been set to NONE.

[riggz]

thanks for your reply jdobbs,

i set dvd2avi set to none.

then i encode with cce, and the resulting .mpv file i get i've tried to import into maestro, which is all ok (and it shows the correct length). however, when i try to import the chapters, it gives that "i-frame insertion entry" error.

now that you've said i dont need to pulldown, i think i'll try doing a pulldown with "-nopulldown -drop_frame true" and see if it works. i read what trilight said about drop frames and inserting the chapter points.

however, it seems that regardless if i set the -nopulldown flag it always changes the length.

can i author the movie fine without inserting the chapter points i wonder? it isnt a biggie to me if i cant skip to a certain chapter. :P

[jdobbs]

You should put the chapters in just so the original menus point correctly. BUT, they don't have to be EXACTLY set to the same frame as the original. You just need to be close (and have the same number) enough to satisfy yourself.

[oceansky]

Hi, Jdobbs, i got the problem as my final dvd didn't play the audio part.

The situation is if i play the vob file only thru the powerdvd player, the audio is played fine, and if I play the movie thru the windvd player using selecting source from that drive location and play like normal dvd movie. I can see the video part of the movie is fine and is sychornized with the subtitle just by watching the mouth's movement, except no audio. Why is that? And I can see the audio is off as there is no response when I punch the audio button on my dvd player as I also tried it on dvd player.

So, do you know where is my problem, maybe in dvdmestro setup?

thanks.

[jdobbs]

Typically that means that the stream ID of the audio track you created does not match the one that was default. You can change that in IFOEDIT. Look at your original IFO under VTS_PGCITI and then VTS_PGX_1. At offset [0000000C] you will see what is the default (normally) stream. Look at the value. Also look at VTSI_MAT at offset [00000204]. If it says DTS under coding mode, just change it to AC3 (in the modified IFO, of course) and your problem will probably go away. Of course that's doing it by hand... if you use the "copy audio/subs" option it should do it for you...

At any rate, if you play with these values for a while (save the original values) you will probably figure out how to make it work.

[oceansky]

Hi, jdobbs, I checked both ifo(original and authored),

VTS_PGCITI and then VTS_PGX_1 at offset [0000000C], value are same.

And VTSI_MAT at offset [00000204], both are AC3.

So, I went back to dvd2avi guide link from best of cce guide.
I noticed I didn't select demux from dolby digital and left it select as decode. Do you think this cause the problem?

Meanwhile, I am going to try it again with the right selection for audio from dvd2avi.

Thanks.

[oceansky]

Jdobbs, what should I say as I didn't look over my audio settings.
Hah, now everything is worked fine.
Thanks for all your help.

And, one thing I saw your last post to the chapter frame, could we set the frame number same as original if not hard to do thru ifoedit?

I try to look over it but don't know where to edit.hehe.

[drmih]

I have also used a similar method to this for quite some time but would offer the following advice on subtitles.

If you use the character recognition option you will typically get between 5 and 10 Mb of subtitles making up a film. I've just done 'The Last castle' and it had 1529 subtitles and when using character recognition it used 8.5 Mb. However, to do a good job it can take between 1 to 2 hours and that is often too long for a film you're not bothered about. Therefore I would suggest the following options for bitmap capturing. The method used suggest that you select 720x480 for the sizing but this makes each bitmap about 200 kb in size - therefore for The Last Castle 1529*200 = A Lot. You will find that Subrip automatically will select the smallest area around the bitmaps, so if you use the values of 8 and 2 you still get the bitmaps but without all of the black screen. I wanted red subtitles with a black border so I set background to white, Font to red, outline to black and antialiasing to red. Run the program but when you select the output window make the following changes: Background (Primary colour 0) to black 15, font to red 0, outline to black 0, and antialiasing to red 15. Obviously the red in both cases can be whatever you wish. The subtitles created take up about 1.5 times the character recognition ones (12 to 15 Mb) but typically 30 less than if the whole screen is captured, and require no interaction to obtain.

Great work though in putting the guide together.

[Muyo]

Hello, sorry if this is something already been asked, I used the search and coudln't find the answer I need.

I have some DVDs that are 8.5gig where it has 4 episodes per disc and splits into 4 ifo and 4 vob, And I would like to make backups where it'll fit on an DVD-R. I have made a few disc where it only has one menu .ifo/vob and and one movie ifo/7vob into an dvd-r following this guide and it works great all the menus and audio tracks works. Super Guide :)

So now the problem is how can I do the same with dvds that has 5ifo/5vob?

do I just do What I have been doing following the guide and do each ifo/vob as they were the only file on the disc, and author it with DVDMaestro one ifo/vob at a time. then replace each vob as they were. and update all 4 ifo then burn?

I would give that a try but because the DVD are anime where it's ntsc 40%avg I'm still trying to figure out a best way to do the deinterlacing so far I'm not getting good pictures without lines yet to try and reencode each vob on their own and try yet.

Any info would be great
TIA

[drmih]

It's easy if the 4 titles are in 4 different title sets. Just handle each one as if it was the only one. You'll end up with 4 audio tracks (or multiples of if there are commentaries etc) and 4 re-encoded m2v files (if you're using Maestro I assume that you're also using CCE). Under Maestro just create 4 movies and add the correct assets to each one. Don't bother with anything else, just make an image on the HD. It'll give you warnings at the end about subpictures and first play etc but don't worry.

Make a clean directory and from the original source files copy everything but the 4 sets of movie vobs (you'll still want to copy the menu vobs VTS_0*_0.VOB). Then from the Maestro authoring directory (usually c:\video_ts) copy only the movie vobs to the clean directory (if you have to replace any files then you've made a mistake).

Next use IFOUpdate to copy the cell info from the movie *.ifo files in C:\video_ts to the ones in the new directory you placed the files in. Finally use IFOEdit to correct sectors / remove pop-ups / regions free etc and that should be it.

[oceansky]

Hi, jdobbs or anyone, I backing up another movie but I have problem when I import my audio ac3 file into DVD Mestro and the error said:
"Cannot locate a frame SYMC word at an expected byte offset. Data might be corrupted."

Could you or anyone tell me what's this message mean?

Thank you.

[lrosado]

Hey Trilight or anyone else that knows this guide to the T,

Great guide by the way Trilight, I am a newbie to the whole DVD Ripping and Authoring. Now following the DVD9-DVD5 guide but using scenarist instead, do you still have to do:

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Pulldown project.mpv output.m2v –prog_frames p

then use this one…

Pulldown project.mpv output-drop.m2v –prog_frames p –drop_frame true
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or can you just do the one output.m2v. Or will you run into the subtitles not being in synch problem the same as Maestro as you explained if you dont do the output-drop.m2v?

[CMG]

Maybe a little off topic, but since you say nero 5.5.8.0 is the magic number, and that it should work... it's not. I have re-authored a number of discs and burned them with nero 5.5.8.0., but it allways simply refuses to play on a normal DVD Player... (all but Finlux DVD Players, but that's just the way they read a dvd...) I tested it on over 20 dvd players, including sony's, pioneer players, JVC's, and so on. Not one will play them. If i rip the movie to my computer from the disc, create an .img file, and burn it again, it does work. Anny one got an idea how/why this is happening?

N.B.

The all play on the computer tho ;)

[TRILIGHT]

Must be something wrong with your installation or Nero is not set up to work properly with the particular drive you have. I've used 5.5.8.0 with my DVR-104 for quite a while now and all my discs play on any of the Sony, Pioneer, or Panasonic standalones I've tried them on. In fact, I've not found a (recent) DVD player that won't play them! (My older Sony DVP-S7700 won't)

On a side note, albeit related... I'm about to post an easy to read guide for multi-PGC titles. (It's based on Scenarist though because I personally find the Maestro multi-PGC method rather convoluted.) Whether it gets posted in the "guides" section will be up to Doom9 but I should have it posted here this weekend.

[CMG]

whell, i burn it with my Pioneer DVR-104 also, and test on Pioneer 454 Stand alone amungst others. Re-installed it a few times, but no go :P

Thanx tho, looking forward to your Multi-PGC guide

[gingga]

ok i have read this thread twice now but there is no explanation on what i need to do to get this guide to work with pal titles as i have tried a few times without any success :( i have done ntsc dvds following this guide with 100% success but cant get a single pal title to work

[TRILIGHT]

You might need a PAL user to give you specifics but, if memory serves me correctly, all you have to do is A) Set Maestro to PAL instead of NTSC and B) You don't have to run any pulldown on the file because PAL will accept it as is. Like I said though, you might want to wait for verification from a PAL user. I'm fairly certain these are the only differences though. (Save for obvious things like setting your FPS properly when doing chapters, etc.)

[Bonge]

I am a relative newbie in this DVD2DVDR playground, but I've done over 200 SVCDs using methods from the doom9 website.
I've recently completed my first DVD R copy using TRILIGHT's DVD-9 to DVD-5 method. I tested the completed "new" DVD using IFOEDIT and noticed that the chapter menu features were not working. All other menus in the root title menus are working. I've searched this forum thoroughly but have not found an answer to my question. Has anybody come across a problem similar to this? I figure if there is a solution to this, the brilliant minds in this community would have it. Thank you all in advance:)

[TRILIGHT]

Don't know about playing in IFOedit. I never do that. I always test with PowerDVD XP. Are you saying your "Scene Selections" don't work? Are you certain you ran IFOupdate properly and didn't mess up the IFO files in the process? Updated the VTS Sectors properly?

[Bonge]

Trilight,

Yes. The scene selection feature does not work. I am pretty certain that I ran IFOupdate properly and didn't mess up the IFO files in the process. How does one verify if it wasn't completed properly? If I ran the process incorrectly how can I "fix" it. Any advice?

[TRILIGHT]

Well, it sounds like the menu IFO or one of the menu VOB's got screwed up really. If you select a chapter, it should at least go somewhere although maybe not to the right spot. One thing I've seen people do more than once is say they are following the guide "to the T", however, they are doing things such as stripping items before or after and messing with the overall structure. Did you do any of these things? If so, the results are typically inconsistent.

[Bonge]

1.) I used Power DVD per your suggestion to view the newly authored movie (LIKE MIKE). Thanks.
2.) The chapter menu feature works to an extent. The chapter selection doesn't quite point to the scene index accurately (that's cool, minor detail). I am ecstatic with the progress I've made. The first DVD is always the toughest.
3.) I came across another issue. I'm having trouble burning this DVD, now. Geez. My re-authored DVD resuslted in a two VOBs produced. When I try to burn using Nero 5.5.9, I get an error stating a third VOB is missing and is required. Is this error related to the initial IFOUPDATE "mix up" I may have done? Any help would be welcome. Thanks, Trilight.

[Stress_analyst]

Hi all,
I have been following the CCE Maestro guide in order to make a backup Insomnia (NTSC).
I’ve backed up the same movie with Ifoedit but I couldn’t get the subtitles to be compiled without a buffer error. Ifoedit Authoring will give me a file where the subs are in synch initially but slowly will get out of synch or not work at all.
Therefore, I’ve decided to use this guide. The problem is that picture and audio are in synch, but I can’t get the subs in synch, not even at the beginning (the subs are looking great when the .spf file is loaded just not synched)!!! I have followed the guide and even used the SubRip 1.02. I have the original m2v from Decrypter and I have used pulldown 0.99d both with and without the drop_frame option. I have imported the subs with the drop_frame.m2v in the timeline but the subs are still out of synch.

Any suggestions will be a great help. I have seen that everyone suggests using the drop_frame file in the timeline prior to importing the subs. I have done that but maybe the drop frame option is not working properly for this movie??

BTW if there is a solution to the Ifoedit subs issue I would like to know what that is. (From the posts I have conclude the there is a problem with 2 cells in the vod and ifoedit can’t process this correctly).

Thanks for the help,

The Analyst

[ghobbit]

Hi

Have been following this thread with interest but I just can not get my subtitles to work at all. I'd be happy just to see them even if they werent sync'd so long as they are there!

The movie I'm doing is the Mummy. All I want are the subtitles when they speak ancient egyptian. I used Subrip to identify the correct subtitle stream. I selected save as bitmap etc as suggested in the guide. I have a folder called 'subs' in which are all the bitmaps plus a file called mummy.son.

I have loaded the chapters, encoded m2v from tmpegenc and the ac3 audio. I then load the mummy.son into the 'ABC' part of Maestro.
So far so good. I then compile. It creats the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders with the vobs etc. If I try and play the vobs on PowerDVD XP there are no subtitles. Video and audio are sync'd fine. I havent created any menus or anything as I just want the movie and audio (plus subtitles where necessary). Do I in fact need to create a menu to have this. When I right click in PowerDVD XP the subtitles option is greyed out.

Do I need to do anything with Ifoedit or any other sort of program to get my subtitles to appear before looking at the vobs with Powerdvd XP?

I have tried authoring with Ifoedit but also with no luck.

I think I'm also there and that its something simple that I"ve overlooked somewhere.

Any guidance would be most appreciated.

thanks

Steve

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by ghobbit
All I want are the subtitles when they speak ancient egyptian.

Sounds like you're referring to "forced subs" which are displayed regardless of whether or not subs are actually turned on. You'll need to identify each of these and change them so they are "forced".

[ghobbit]

Hi Trilight

Thanks for replying so quickly.


The stream that subrip identified were labelled as 'Forced'. Is the procedure to rip them etc still the same?

If so do I take it from what youre saying that all I have to do once I have added the subtitles to the 'ABC' part of maestro, I right click on them and select properties and then select the 'Forced Display' option?
I assume I need to do this for all the subtitles where they appear in the subtitle area of the timeline?

Thanks for your help

Steve

[TRILIGHT]

That's correct.

[ghobbit]

Hi Trilight

OK I did that and I just did the first 10 or so subtitles to see if it would work but unfortunately it didnt. Still no subtitles.

I ripped the dvd and then used subrip to identify the stream that had the subtitles I needed.
Then I ripped that stream from all the vobs and saved 'subpictures as BMP'. This was then saved as mummy.son ready for Maestro.

I opened Maestro and first added the chapters (got from chapterxtractor). Then I added the m2v that I created using Tmpgenc. Then I added the AC3 file and then I added the .son file.

I right clicked on the first ten subtitles and checked the 'Force Display'.
I then compiled. Maestro created a VIDEO_TS and an AUDIO_TS folder and put the vob files etc it created into it.

I tried playing the first vob in PowerDVD XP which opeded fine and had audio and video in sync. The subtitles should have appeared within the first 2 or 3 minutes or so but there was nothing.

Is there anything you can see from what Im doing that is obviously wrong or that I should check with the programs I am using. This is a PAL movie and I have slected the obvious settings as such.

Sorry to be a pain but this is getting quite frustrating.

Thanks for your patience

Steve

[AlainDelon]

Did you set your subtitle stream in Maestro to on(under project properties/initial stream setting)?

[ghobbit]

Yes

I right clicked on the project name in the left hand window and selected properties. Down the bottom of that window I made it a '1' which is what I think you referring to.

I had a look at the .son script file created by subrip and at the top it said something about 'non-forced' so I changed that to 'forced' to see if that would make any difference but it didn't.

I think (though I could be wrong) that it is an authoring problem. I seem to have everything there - chapters,m2v,ac3 and .son. I can open up the subtitles and look at the bitmaps. Everything appears to be in order.

When its compiling I can see it says its making subtitles. But nothing appears in final product.

Could it be something to do with PGC? Ifoedit says that the original ifo is one PGC yet when I see the compiling window I see something that refers to multi PGC (seven I think it said). The authored PGC is still one.

One other thing I've noticed. In subrip the stream I rip out and create bitmaps from is 0X30. In the authored ifo it says 0x20. Could that affect it? Does anyone know how to change it?

Thanks for your help on this.

regards

Steve

[TRILIGHT]

It's almost definitely your stream information is incorrect. They are there but are not being accessed properly. Go to this page (http://dvdguides.trilight.net) and look at the Multi-PGC guide. Scroll all the way to the bottom to see what I'm referring to when it comes to the stream numbers.

Now this is not to say that it is automatically going to correct things for you. While you're on that guide, you should read it and be doing things that way. As you mentioned, this is a multi-PGC title and the Maestro "full copy" guide you are following was written only for single PGC titles. Even if you were to get the movie working correctly (which is still a toss up), the rest of your disc would not work.

[airedale]

I have a quick question about the whole pulldown thing and the forced film...

In DVD2AVI, I have been working on a movie where it first starts out as NTSC and then flips over to Film and then back to NTSC... It does that a couple of times until it hits film and starts climbing from around 50% film and finally tops out around 97% - 98%. Then it will pretty much sit there at that. Once or twice I saw it flip to NTSC and then right back to the high percentage for Film. So when I demuxed, I set it to Forced Film. Should I have done that?

Also, I was wondering what exactly the -drop_frame flag does in pulldown.

Thanks!

[Stress_analyst]

I’m still working on the Insomnia.
I have made some more testing regarding the subtitles in this movie.
Subrip will give me the subs (.bmp) with their timing in the son file (there is no difference of the timing between the two versions of Subrip 1.02 and the latest 1.11).

When I input the subs in Maestro with the insomnia-drop.m2v in the timeline the subs are imported in the correct time spots. The timing of the subs in Maestro is the same as in the .son file.
The problem is that at the video frames of the m2v file are not matching this timing. For example the video frame at 4:48 sec from the insomnia-p.m2v or the insomnia-drop.m2v file is not the one matching the subtitle (according to the .son timing). The subs need to be moved 14 sec back in order to match the video.

Theory 1: The .son file is not determining the subtitle timing correctly for some reason.

Theory 2: The insomnia-p.m2v and insonia-drop.m2v files are not following the original insomnia.m2v (from decrypter) timing. The subs from Subrip were created using the original .IFO and .VOB files. If the pulldowned m2v files are not in timing agreement with the original .VOB files then the subs should not be synched.
BTW there is no difference between the insomnia-p.m2v and the insomnia-drop.m2v files. There both the same time length and file size. I was thinking that my CCE conversion was wrong but then why is the audio in synch? I have used CCE 2.5 with the the exact settings from the “Getting the best” guide (these settings are in agreement with bitrate viewer analysis).
I’m providing some info on my files, when inputted in Media Player, Maestro or CCE using .avs:

Insomnia.mpv---CCE output
Insomnia-p.m2v---Pulldown output
Insomnia-drop.m2v---Pulldown output drop frames

Insomnia.mpv---------WMP=1:58:05 sec----CCE.avs=1:58:05:17
Insomnia-p.mpv-------WMP=1:58:12 sec----Maestro=1:58:05:21
Insomnia-drop.mpv---WMP=1:58:12 sec----Maestro=1:58:05:21

Thank you for the help AND Happy new year

[TRILIGHT]

From what you said before and are saying now, I don't know if your dropframe file is actually being created properly. Actually, before it sounded as if they were imported with the non-drop clip on the timeline. You've not mentioned this time whether any of them are correct or if they are all off the entire time. Something else you need to keep in mind is that you may think things are not in the right place but when you actually check it on playback, it is. Are you sure the scenes you're looking at are correct?

I'm also curious, however, how you are properly recreating the seamless branching structure of this DVD in Maestro. It is a multi-PGC seamless branching title that does not lend itself well to Maestro at all. Not saying it can't be done but it would be a bitch in comparison to Scenarist.

Are you actually trying to do a full backup or are you starting a butcher shop? hehe ;) If you're not actually doing a full disc backup, you should probably post this problem in a seperate thread so as to at least keep this particular thread's integrity.

[Stress_analyst]

Trilight

I stand corrected

I was not planning on doing a full dvd backup, but keep video audio and subs. I will start a new thread. If anyone has any suggestion please follow up on the new detailed thread.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41984

Thank you

[TRILIGHT]

Not trying to give ya a hard time. ;) Just that the thread is about doing a full copy and anything other than that will confuse newbies who may be doing searches trying to learn.

[ghobbit]

I did it I did it I did it I did it

Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou

To all those that have given advice and support

Thankyou

I now have a working copy of the mummy at v.good quality, 5.1 sound and subtitles when they speak ancient egyptian. What a mission! It only took several weeks.

But now I know how to do it I can move on to the Mummy returns :-)

Thanks

Steve

[TRILIGHT]

Awesome!! Congrats on completing your project, Steve!

[destemido]

Starwars episode 1
i have a problem.... i've created new vobs in maestro and i managed to update the ifo but when i try to play it in ifoedit, it doesn't work. if i play it on powerDVD it will work. i burnt the files to a DVD+rw and the disc works but takes a shitload of time before the disc is recognized... and i formated the disc and tried a 2nd time.
why are all this things apenning???

[TRILIGHT]

I may be wrong but if I'm not mistaken, that title is a multiPGC title and this particular post/method does not apply. You will have to recreate the title following a multi-PGC method (which I personally do not support doing in Maestro). Maestro, IMHO, is only reliable for single-PGC titles. I suggest you use Scenarist and follow the other guide if this title is multi-PGC.

[destemido]

yeah i think that's the reason...
fisrt play says: jump to title 2
and when i re-encoded the vob's i used DVD2DVDR which will only re-encode 1 PGC (the one you chose, of course).
so when i the ifo tells the dvd to go to title 2 it stops, because there's no title 2 in the new vobs...
as for sceanarist... i don't know... many people say it's very hard to understand, and i'm already having some dificulties with maestro.
not to mention it should be expensive as hell...

do you think i use warez software???? ;)
no one on the forum does that!!!! it's would be against the forum rules...
oh... and did i mention it's also illegal???
:D

[stationx]

I thought i'd have a got at the DVD-9 to DVD-5 full copy method as up to now i've used ifoedit to either strip down to one disk or span two. But i have come to a problem, I'm sure this is an easy one for someone but I’m unsure how to approach it. Im trying to back up my copy of Behind Enemy Lines (NTSC). IFOedit shows it as having 1 PGC so I have chosen the Doom9 DVD-9 to DVD-5 "Full Copy" method not the Scenarist method.

The movie is in VTS_04_X.VOB. The video has few minutes of animated menu followed by the chapter stills then into the main movie. The menu/chapters part of the video has a separate audio track to the main film.

My problem is how to set it up in maestro in order to author it. If I bring in my new video stream it has the menu and chapters at the front (1.38 min approx). When I add the movie audio it has to be off set by 1.38min to be in sync. Then I add the menu/chapters audio which doesn’t have to be offset but looks funny as it appears to over laps into the movie area on the timeline(because the audio plays while the chapters screens are frozen) i'm sure this is ok it justs looks funny. Any chapter or subtitle import will be out of sync by 1.38 mins as time timing is referenced to the start of the video not the start of the film. I did try off setting the imported chapters by editing each one and adding 1.38min which did the trick. But i can't import the subtitles.

I had the idea of cutting the video using TMPGenc tools and bringing the menu/chapters in as movie1 and the film as movie2. However maestro didn't seem to like the cut video. I know i some how need to make the start of the film sequence the 0 sec reference point so that any import i.e chapters etc will be in relation to this point and not the start of the video but i can't think how to do it.

I hope i have explained my self clearly. Any pointers sugestions would be greatly appreciated.

[TRILIGHT]

You ripped the menu VOB along with the others. In this guide, as well as the multi-PGC guide, you do NOT ever touch the *_0.VOB files! This is where your menu is located. You need to be using *_1.VOB and on for the given VTS set.

[stationx]

Thank you TRILIGHT. I knew something wasn't right in DVD2AVI as the video type under the f5 preview was showing 35-40% and rising instead of 99% solid. I couldn't work out why but now i know.

Thanks again
Stationx

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by stationx
f5 preview was showing 35-40% and rising instead of 99% solid.

You're welcome. However, be careful. There are times that you run across hybrid clips that can be up to 50/50. Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back is a good example. Just make sure you never touch the *_0.VOB files. The guides are written such that you should not have to recreate or touch the menus at all.

[atreides93]

Trilight, do you only have to use the drop frame version of the m2v file if you import SUBS?
what does drop frame even do?

[TRILIGHT]

Without getting into the techncalities of what drop-frame actually is, it is required for things to be in sync (at least for NTSC. I do not do or know anything about PAL titles. From my understanding, they do not use drop-frame) In fact, the whole use of "non-drop" in Maestro is just to be able to import the chapters without receiving an error. All NTSC projects should be done using drop-frame clips. In fact, now that I use Scenarist exclusively for DVD backups, I don't even use "non-drop" anymore.

[deadk]

i read ppl having trouble with multi-pgc titles and this guide
i wanted to know, would this guide work if the title was multipgc but the 2nd pgc was just like a logo that ran for 2sec or so like on a few dvd's.
If i used this method, what problems would i run into... i tried it on one movie (la haine) and it all played fine till powerdvd, but once burned, the dvd standalone didn't even launch the menu.
I noticed ifoupdate pointing out that the "original ifo has 2 pgc's and authored has only one"
since its a small pgc, is there a workaround?

[TRILIGHT]

Originally posted by deadk
i read ppl having trouble with multi-pgc titles and this guide

I don't mean this to sound rude but it even says in the "NOTE" at the very beginning... "this guide only works for single PGC titles" This is not a multi-PGC guide! There is an updated version of this guide as well as the one I wrote for multi-PGC HERE (http://dvdguides.trilight.net)

[LeXXuz]

Originally posted by TRILIGHT
1) As for the delay, you don't need to worry about this. Maestro will use the timecode in the AC3 file to align it with the video.


Trilight, are you really sure that Maestro handles the delay values correctly ?
Does any AC3-Stream from a movie-dvd has a timecode ?
If not how do i find out having a timecode in the ac3 file ?

I used ac3 delay corrector so far for handling the audio delays.
But this tool isnt very exact, cause it's only able to cut/add multiples of 32ms to or from a stream.

If I cut the delay from the file and add this file into my maestro project , shouldn't I have a new delay then?

Example : I have a delay of -100ms. I cut 3 frames from the file (aprox. 96ms)-> add this into my timeline -> maestro shifts the file according to the timecode 100ms before the video. => So If you're right I should end up with a new delay of 196ms.

I'm a bit confused by now, cause I never had a delay within my authored movies and a delay of 200ms is easy to recognize.

regards
Lexxuz