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Sakura-chan
23rd December 2017, 00:30
Hi~

I have a bunch of subs which have a lot of narration and voices in the background. This means that lines start and end all out of order and one or several start before others ended. I like my subs simple and plain so all my life I've using SRT. But on SRT lines must be in order and the next one start after the previous one ended.

I tried converting to PGS with Subtitle Edit but it justs converts the SRT as it comes and then the player messes up (since PGS seems to have the same rules as SRT).

Oh yes, I have the subs in SRT, but they are "non standard" with the lines out of order as I said above. PotPlayer at leasts plays them nicely, doesn't care about the SRT "order". But upon muxing the file with mkvmerge I get a complain from it about the lines. And I'd rather stick to the standard.

So... this is when ASS enters the picture. Subs can be in any order and start/end times can be all over the place. But ASS implies styles which I don't want. Sure, I can leave the default style and have the player set to ignore them.

But... what happens if I open the ASS file in Notepad and delete the "[V4+ Styles]" section?

PotPlayer (set to load fonts and styles) simply uses the font config set in the subtitles section. Great! I can play these ASS subs anywhere without having to go around configuring the player to ignore styles.

The question is, I am breaking the standard? Can I be certain that all players under the sun will read the ASS and simply take the font style set in the player's config? Or could there be one that complains about the styles missing?


P.S.: I can mux the un-styled ASS in mkvmerge just fine.