New PC for BD-Rebuilder?

[Mark_Venture]

Is new BD-Rebuilder with NVENC better (or at least the same) quality than old BD-Rebuilder + X264 (software)? I have MSI GTX 1070 Ti TITANIUM (Pascal GPU) on one PC and MSI GTX 1650 GAMING X (TU117 GPU) on the other one. Thanx.
The encoder in the GTX1650 (non super) is based on Volta (basically Pascal). So the performance of the 1070ti and 1650 will be about the same.

I can't say how much difference there is since I had a GTX970 and now have a GTX1660ti (Turing encoder).

With Turning encoder in my GTX1660ti, yes, when watching videos (on my two Sony XBR 4K Tvs anyway) done with BD-Rebuilder using NVENC or x264/x265 that to my eyes,
is video that looks identical. At least I can't tell any difference.

Give it a try for yourself and see.

[hardkid]

The encoder in the GTX1650 (non super) is based on Volta (basically Pascal).

Thank you. But isn't MSI GTX 1650 GAMING X based on a Turing GPU? The specs say so.

https://ibb.co/K2V5SNk

[Mark_Venture]

Thank you. But isn't MSI GTX 1650 GAMING X based on a Turing GPU? The specs say so.

https://ibb.co/K2V5SNk
Yes, but the encoder in the 1650 is not Turing.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14270/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-review-feat-zotac/2
Has info on the TU117 chip.

EDIT: just wanted to be clear... While the GTX1650 does Not use the Turing encoder, The GTX1650 SUPER does have the Turing Encoder.

[hardkid]

Yes, but the encoder in the 1650 is not Turin.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14270/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-review-feat-zotac/2
Has info on the TU117 chip.

Understood. Thank you.

[Mark_Venture]

Needed to upgrade the GTX970 in my son's PC since he is doing more gaming. I figured I'd see what I could get, then give him my GTX1660ti. I wasn't too confident, but saw an RTX3060 come up in a Newegg Shuffle on Saturday, so I took a chance... and I got picked, so purchased EVGA RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12G-P5-3657-KR which I have just popped into my PC... (nothing else changed from Post 45 of this thread)...

Pulled out Mission Impossible 5 again (what I've used to test in the past.. )

[23:53:13] Source: MISSION_IMPOSSIBLE_5_00800
[00:17:29] JOB: MISSION_IMPOSSIBLE_5 finished.

If my math is right, that is 24 minutes, and 16 seconds... so 6 minutes and 25 seconds faster than Post 45. Although... post 45 was SOFTWARE encoding, not NVENC!!

[jdobbs]

I'm actually pretty impressed that software encoding speed could come that close to NVENC.

[Mark_Venture]

just an update on Video Card differences with NVENC

4k AVENGERS_ENDGAME_00004
CQM=19
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: NVENCC
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640


RTX3060 EVGA RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12G-P5-3657-KR
1 hours 15 minutes 24 seconds

GTX1660ti EVGA GTX 1660ti XC Ultra Gaminig 06G-P4-1267-KR
1 hours 20 minutes 26 seconds

So not a real big difference there, although I didn't expect much.


Doing a regular Bluray

Source: THE_FIRST_PURGE_UPB75_00800
- Input BD size: 24.93 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:37:25.422]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, Intact Audio
- Quality: High Quality (Default)
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640

rtx 3060 EVGA RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12G-P5-3657-KR
19 minutes 54 seconds

gtx 1660ti EVGA GTX 1660ti XC Ultra Gaminig 06G-P4-1267-KR
15 minutes 53 seconds

This surprises me. While its only a few minutes, I didn't expect the 1660ti to have the advantage. As far as I know, there weren't any settings change in BD-RB. And while I had a browser window open this time, I'm not sure that would have that much effect.

[Mark_Venture]

I'm actually pretty impressed that software encoding speed could come that close to NVENC.
Looks like that is just for x264...

When set BD RB for x264/x265 encoding (rather than NVENC) and run that same 4K Avengers Endgame disc, I started it 14 minute ago and its estimate still says 4hrs 34 min remaining.