Call for Blu Ray Text Subtitles

[ndjamena]

I guess the subtitles section will do, anyway, copy/paste:

OK, so the latest version of MakeMKV has acquired the ability to rip Blu Ray Text Subtitles. Apparently no one had ever presented them with an example of its use before so what we know about them is pretty much nothing. As far as I'm aware no program can play the things and for the most part, until the latest release of MakeMKV very few programs would even touch the things even for remuxing/extraction (TSRemux being the only one I know of).

So, other than MakeMKV, Mosu is currently working on supporting these subtitles in MKVToolNix and VLC has shown interest in actually rendering them on playback. It's still early days and a lot of the details haven't been figured out yet (like how to store the fonts in a way that's compatible with the Matroska vision) but the most pressing issue at this point is a lack of examples.

So far, I personally have four Blu Rays that I know of with these subtitles in them (The Mummy 1, 2 and 3 and The Scorpion King) but they're all rather basic implementations of the format. If anyone knows of or has access to any other titles with these subtitles inside we'd all like to know about it. Any samples that can be provided would be appreciated and the more complicated the formatting of the text streams the better.

'Moritz Bunkus': moritz@bunkus.org
MakeMKV Support: support@makemkv.com

or you could post on the MakeMKV or VLC forums.

-edit- or, since this is Doom9, maybe even the MKVToolNix thread.

[ndjamena]

By the way, if anyone would like to try adding support for these subtitles to their programs - samples, in Blu Ray format:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/21njtxzejbz2h4m/Blu_Ray_Text_Subtitles.zip

(there's no video or audio in the zip, just the text subtitles.)

[ndjamena]

Apparently I forgot to add most of the m2ts files to the "Mummy" movies.

I've added Van Helsing to the zip file as well.

[jpsdr]

Almost no one use them. You can use only an open format for the font (.o[something] don't remember), and even when i tried, i've never been able to get a font my authoring software doesn't reject, and there is apparently also some timing restrictions (like you must have a minimum time between two subtitles). And apparently, don't expect customing display like you have on ssa (don't even talk about ass !).
They're a pain in the ass to use, so there is no surprise almost everyone use the "picture" option.

[ndjamena]

Understood. Yet they exist and they are a codec and should be supported where ever possible. 608 captions are still used quite a lot and it's restrictions are much, much worse and it's feature set is almost non-existent.

I'm not advocating everyone jump in and use them exclusively, I'm just trying to get some support for them. (608 captions as well.)

[ndjamena]

Wait, you have a program that can make the things?

That could be very, very helpful. Especially if it can show how to render each command properly.