View PGS/SUP subtitles and see the forced flag

[LonelyPixel]

I've extracted SUP subtitles from a BluRay disc and would like to view them to know their language and see whether the forced subtitles flag is set anywhere. Currently, these files are black boxes to me.

There are multiple applications that may or may not do that, some of them are listed here, some of these have broken download links. I'm specifically looking for something that runs (nicely) on Windows and preferrably doesn't need Java. Can you recommend me something?

[MokrySedeS]

SubExtractor (http://subextractor.codeplex.com/) or SupRip (http://exar.ch/suprip/).

[LonelyPixel]

Thank you. SubExtractor can show me how many of the titles are forced, but not exactly which I think. SubRip crashes with my sup files so I can't say anything about it.

[MokrySedeS]

http://i43.tinypic.com/2i6dj46.png

[LonelyPixel]

That's what I said. It gives me the count but doesn't tell which are the ones forced.

[MokrySedeS]

But it gives you the time stamps and previews which is sufficient IMO.

[LonelyPixel]

Oh, there's that filter checkbox. Yes, that looks like what I was looking for. Enough to verify that the subtitles are properly working. I also found a disc with forced subtitles now. Thank you.

[Chetwood]

The easiest way of course is to open them in BDSUP2SUB. It will also show you what items are flagged as forced.

[MokrySedeS]

But it requires Java...

[Chetwood]

So what?

[LonelyPixel]

Off topic: Java is a mess (doesn't integrate with the platform, set aside the programming language and IDEs), it's unreliable (update notifications constantly fail with security warnings), it's highly insecure (one of the top malware gates, enables itself in web browsers with every update) and it's bugging me way too much for an application runtime. YMMV

[MokrySedeS]

So what?

I'm specifically looking for something that runs (nicely) on Windows and preferrably doesn't need Java.

;)


@LonelyPixel, I use jPortable Launcher when I needed to run BDSup2Sub :)

[Chetwood]

My bad, I missed this. Still, if you don't use Java inside the webbrowser there's nothing to worry about with BDSUP2SUB.

[LonelyPixel]

Sure, if Java restricted itself to my desktop, not bug me with nonfunctional updates, not offer my adware by default and stay out of my browser, it'd be okay. I'll give BDS2S a try when Subtitle Extractor doesn't do.

[sneaker_ger]

There's a C++ version of BDSup2Sub:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1613303

[Chetwood]

I don't know where you're downloading Java from but at http://java.com/de/ there's no adware. I've disable Java under Firefox > Plugins and if you don't want to be informed about updates you can disable the updater with msconfig. Or use the C++ version.

[LonelyPixel]

I've got it from java.com, the official Oracle website. Sometimes (not always), even on updates, it offers me some "Ask toolbar" crap which I have to deselect. Also, the Java update check cannot be disabled through the control panel. When I do, and come back to that dialog, it's enabled again. I suspect that Java updater is responsible for the occasional out-of-context SSL warning dialogs that pop up on my desktop over night. Some oracle server has invalid certificates - for years! But the dialog doesn't say where it comes from or what it wanted to do. Of course I always dismiss such dialogs. Bugs all over. It does that on more than just my computers. So I try to get along without anything that requires Java. Unfortunately, I still need it for an app or two. Recently it caused some trouble again, mixing up 32 and 64 bit runtimes/apps. None of this has ever happened to me with any .NET runtime - just to say it can be done right, too.