Good converters srt > sup (dvd) unicode & colortags?

[marsoupilami]

Hi there!

I'm looking for good converters from "srt/sub" to "sup" format for muxing it into DVD with IfoEdit or MuxMan.
I know, there are a lot of tools - but which one (freeware) supports unicode and color tagging?

Thanks!

(maybe an other solution: where could I get format specification & rll coding of *.sup?)

[Nikse555]

One possibility is Subtitle Edit. Open .srt file, File -> Export -> Blu-ray sup...
Supports Unicode and color tags - and is just out in version 3.3.2 :)

>where could I get format specification & rll coding of *.sup?
It depends on your programming language, for java check BDSup2Sub source, for C/C++ check the new bdsup2sub++, and for C# check SE.

[marsoupilami]

Thanks for your fast response!
... and first of all congratulations to your great tool!
I'll try it asap! The Blu-ray sup is compatible to DVD? Shouldn't the sups have a color mapping to the ifo color table??

Btw. I'm a C++ hobbyist ... but I would like to avoid grabbing into fonts, bitmaps, pixels, ifo tables...

:)

[Nikse555]

Sorry, It might be the wrong "sup" format. Perhaps it's VobSub (sub/idx) files you want?
I must admit I've never tried to make a DVD with subtitles...

[marsoupilami]

Hi!

Obviously I started writing instead of thinking...:
There are only 4 colours used in sup/dvd (text, outline, antialiasing and background).
Maybe it would be possible to trick around with the "karaoke" - but I would expect a painful way inside bits and bytes.
Furthermore I think that the karaoke is not a common feature & supported by only a few players.
(Flipping text and outline colors could be another possibility but with such restrictions and the same expense of work it's not worth thinking about.)

DVDs have only one subtitle color at a time - that's it :(

[TheSkiller]

DVDs have only one subtitle color at a time - that's it :(
Yeah, if you use an anti-aliasing and outline color you can never have text in more than one color at the same time on screen. Without the anti-aliasing color it's possible to display two different text colors at the same time but the text is blocky without the anti-aliasing color.

I personally always use the
"ASS (Aegisub) — avs2bdnxml (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146493) — BDSup2Sub (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277)" route for my DVD subtitles. It gives me full control over pretty much everything and renders beautiful subtitles (in fact it puts most commercial DVD subtitles to utter shame if you invest some time). And it's all freeware. :)
When it comes to different colors though I would have to change the color mapping of an individual subpic manually afterwards (after authoring) in DVDSubEdit, no big deal.