If you are a user of KMPlayer BE VERY CAREFUL!!

[faam]

KMPlayer unfortionately is logging your activity in the playlist when you open any file in the playlist it send info to pandoratv or korean ip 61.9.111.180 or something like that ,creat a rule in your firewall to prevent kmplayer from accessing internet and watch the results , AND they mentioned that in thier privacy policy that they may collect data from user computer !!!

PLEASE tell every one about this until kmplayer owner change thier behavior


YOURS
faam

[SuLyMaN]

wow....Are you sure the IP is correct? How you tested it? Good thing I do not have the latest version. Creepy.

[pekos]

i uninstaled
thanx
ur right

[leeperry]

KMP is full of fail anyway, let it die.

[Šabović Adis]

KMPlayer unfortionately is logging your activity in the playlist when you open any file in the playlist it send info to pandoratv or korean ip 61.9.111.180 or something like that ,creat a rule in your firewall to prevent kmplayer from accessing internet and watch the results , AND they mentioned that in thier privacy policy that they may collect data from user computer !!!

PLEASE tell every one about this until kmplayer owner change thier behavior


YOURS
faam

I feel you, Bro! But who cares if they know what I am doing on my PC? Guess what, I too know what I am doing on my PC. Can you imagine that!:rolleyes:Peace!

[petran79]

I feel you, Bro! But who cares if they know what I am doing on my PC? Guess what, I too know what I am doing on my PC. Can you imagine that!:rolleyes:Peace!

but do you know what they are doing on their pcs? Not fair!

[Šabović Adis]

but do you know what they are doing on their pcs? Not fair!

They're peekin'. Right?! And again:Who gives a [] They're not the first paparazzos in my life I don't give a [] about! Don't panic!:)

Saludos i pozdrav and greetings to petran79 from Sarajevo!

[Guest]

@Šabović Adis

Please stop using profanity, per forum rule 4. Thank you.

[Šabović Adis]

@Šabović Adis

Please stop using profanity, per forum rule 4. Thank you.

You're alert too?:) Will do!

Peace!

[KMPmediaLSM]

Hi all,

As a employee of KMPmedia, official distributor of kmplayer, our statement on this is as follows from our revised user agreement

"8. Data Collection and Use of Other Materials

As a part of support services of the Software, the Company may collect and use data from the Users’ PC. The collected data will be limited to the software’s version, installation, execution and
removal information."

http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22118

Hopefully that helps.

[Guest]

It doesn't help.

What is "execution information"? Nobody wants you to have that information. Why are you collecting it?

[KMPmediaLSM]

Execution information would be when program is started. We are collecting it for statistics to know where/when users are starting the program, that we may use it for actually further developing the program, in a way like to show other companies that we have a product which is used by many users in this world, so that we may partner with them to further enhance kmplayer.

[Guest]

Then your user agreement is disingenuous, because you only say the information is "As a part of support services of the Software".

[KMPmediaLSM]

That seems to be right, it is as part of the support services to make kmplayer better.

[Brother John]

That statement is wrong in many many ways.
It is unclear what “support services” means. “Use” is equally unclear. Which specific purposes is the data used for? Note espcially that “make kmplayer better” is not specific at all. Also, who exactly has or can gain access to the data?
What does “may collect” mean. Under what circumstances do you collect. How often? How long do you keep the data?
In addition to neuron2’s question: “Data” is completely unclear. The very general terms “version, installation, execution and removal information” hardly specifiy anything. Exactly what data do you collect?
How is the data transmitted and stored? What measures are in place to prevent unathorised access/use? At least for “where/when users are starting the program” we are talking about personal information, so security is especially important.
How can I disable the data collection?
Those are only the questions that pop into my mind immediately. There may be more. In its current form your statement basically says: “We may collect any information at any time and do anything we like with it.” That may be legal (IANAL) but it is carte blanche and user unfriendly in the extreme. I’m not a KMPlayer user at the moment and those kind of terms actively discourage me from ever even trying the software.

[Carpo]

if people are that worried they can block it in their firewalls or just add the ip's to the host file and point it to 127.0.0.1 - that way they can use the player and not have to worry about it phoning home, although the explanations given for it's reason seem shady at best to me

[Reith]

if people are that worried they can block it in their firewalls or just add the ip's to the host file and point it to 127.0.0.1 - that way they can use the player and not have to worry about it phoning home, although the explanations given for it's reason seem shady at best to me

It shouldn't be the user's responsibility to do these things just because they don't want a program sending data about their usage habits. If the developers aren't honest and forthcoming about the whole process (preferably making it an opt-in setting instead of forcing it on everyone) there's no reason to use it over one of the many, many other programs for video playback that wouldn't do this kind of thing.

And if they're not going to make it opt-in (let's be realistic, they probably won't), they need to at the very least be very specific and detailed about what kind of information is collected, what safeguards they have in place against abusing it/violating their users' privacy, and exactly what they intend to use it for.

I would never use KMPlayer in the first place as I'm happy with MPC-HC, but the developer's replies in this topic aren't exactly doing a lot to allay my suspicions.

[KMPmediaLSM]

I will try to get a better answer from the developer about this as soon as I can, hopefully it will clear things up more.

[SuLyMaN]

There is nothing to block. Dwlete right away...

Sent from my GT-S5660 using Tapatalk 2

[Guest]

I will try to get a better answer from the developer about this as soon as I can, hopefully it will clear things up more. Any progress on that?

[KMPmediaLSM]

The developers have read this thread and have told me that it seems no matter what they say, that this thread will always be against kmplayer, so they have nothing more to say at this point.

[Guest]

this thread will always be against kmplayer Only if you fail to dispel legitimate user concerns! Your response is laughable IMHO.

[leeperry]

KMP is using stolen translated code from MPC(they share some identical bugs, hah) and it spies on its users, their habits/playlists and God knows what else, what's not to like?

[diply]

I do not understand. What info KM player send to that site?

[Guest]

I do not understand. What info KM player send to that site? That's the point. They refuse to tell us anything beyond "execution information".

[mr.duck]

It's probably just usage statistics, numbers of people running the app, location. That sort of thing.

Is PotPlayer related to KMP? Does (or did) PotPlayer use stolen MPC code too?

[SuLyMaN]

i definetely dont want them to know what im playing ;-)

Sent from my GT-S5660 using Tapatalk 2

[leeperry]

block it completely with a firewall, problem solved....anyone sane would be doing this already anyway ;)

[Carpo]

The developers have read this thread and have told me that it seems no matter what they say, that this thread will always be against kmplayer, so they have nothing more to say at this point.

What that means is that they know they have been caught red handed, and do not want to tell you what it is for :devil:

[Brother John]

The developers have read this thread and have told me that it seems no matter what they say, that this thread will always be against kmplayer, so they have nothing more to say at this point.
So they don’t feel like explaining what KMPlayer is doing on and sending from the user’s computer … Then at this point my only conclusion can be that KMPlayer’s intent is malicious. Accordingly it should be treated as any other malware would be.

[QuickPlay]

Automatic collecting of user information is illegal in the European Union. It must be selected by the user, so this can be a major problem with the European Commission if its true. So KMPlayer developers tell the truth, what kind of data? is it optional?

[Groucho2004]

block it completely with a firewall, problem solved....anyone sane would be doing this already anyway ;)
Just tried that. First of all, I had to block a whole bunch of programs and helpers (?!) during installation that wanted to dial home.
After this, the program would only start after discarding an error message that didn't tell me anything. It also installs a bunch of other crap (like systems services that must be uninstalled separately).

I tried to load a simple Avisynth script which made it crash horribly.

What a pile of garbage.

[QuickPlay]

Just tried that. First of all, I had to block a whole bunch of programs and helpers (?!) during installation that wanted to dial home.
After this, the program would only start after discarding an error message that didn't tell me anything. It also installs a bunch of other crap (like systems services that must be uninstalled separately).

I tried to load a simple Avisynth script which made it crash horribly.

What a pile of garbage.

Just stay using MPC-HC, VLC Player or MPlayer. No spy stuff.:p

[leeperry]

I had to block a whole bunch of programs and helpers (?!) during installation that wanted to dial home.
it's usually a good idea to use 7-Zip in order to extract the files from the installer yourself, only run the main .exe and block it on your firewall ;)

[Groucho2004]

it's usually a good idea to use 7-Zip in order to extract the files from the installer yourself, only run the main .exe and block it on your firewall ;)
Well, I was curious about how a standard install would go.

[mr.duck]

Maybe this thread should be a sticky - at least until there is some further responses from the KMP people.

[mariush]

Oh wow, what jerks.

I just started a virtual machine to check this software out and it's ADWARE ... and ignores what you select and installs toolbars even if the options are NOT checked. Also, it installs Pandora and other crap without telling you.

And yes, it connects to an IP and reports stuff, but I was already too annoyed to continue investigating.

Made a short clip, I've cut a few parts - haven't used in a while the monitoring software in the video so I was a bit rusty... but you can see clearly what's installed in the system... here's the video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpy9-UY2_Xs&feature=youtu.be

So in short... AVOID.

[QuickPlay]

I think its time for some sanctions, maybe report this to some antivirus and spyware programs. We could try Windows Defender, build-in with Windows Vista and newer.

[SuLyMaN]

Yesterday, Microsoft Security Essentials identified the KMPLAYER setup as a possible threat and offered to install it. The message was about some candythiny that serves ads. I forgot the exact terms...Needless to say, I let MSE delete the installer.

[pekos]

KMPmediaLSM tell your developer that
if they do it
there will be noone to collect data

and what is pandora?
most useless thing ive ever seen..

we gave chance kmp because of its name
but failed
when you brake the glass you cant turn back

[BrollyLSSJ]

Oh wow, what jerks.

I just started a virtual machine to check this software out and it's ADWARE ... and ignores what you select and installs toolbars even if the options are NOT checked. Also, it installs Pandora and other crap without telling you.
I do not have the pandora service, nor the toolbars and I used the installer. You need to remove the check hook in the setup at the bottom to not install the pandora service. For the toolbar and adware you need to uncheck them and click on cancel, because that are different setups.

[petran79]

so this means that in version 3.3.0.33 the developers listened to the complaints and made the installer as it should have been?

Interesting though that in Free-codecs KMplayer review I posted a link to the Doom9 forum and youtube link, it was there for a few days, then got removed.

can anyone test the more recent version?

[naoan]

Why would we want to risk getting some unknown shit installed or unknown data stolen instead of using proven and capable media player like mpc-hc, or even potplayer?

[Ghitulescu]

Why would we want to risk getting some unknown shit installed or unknown data stolen instead of using proven and capable media player like mpc-hc, or even potplayer?

Simply because you know it now you could draw these conclusions. But before 22.05.2012 few people noticed this.

[petran79]

I havent used KMPlayer for years and not at all in the computers I currently use.

And after that I will not use it at all. despite this it continues to be distributed in various multimedia sites

it is too popular now. I fear that even this proof will not add much since even if people knew they'd prefer living in self-denial over such trivial matters.

[BrollyLSSJ]

so this means that in version 3.3.0.33 the developers listened to the complaints and made the installer as it should have been?
I never got it since they released it as KMP+. But before 3.3 you had to click decline instead of cancel for the toolbar.

[naoan]

Simply because you know it now you could draw these conclusions. But before 22.05.2012 few people noticed this.

No duh cap'n. Read the post directly above my post you quoted.

[SuLyMaN]

Just an update. I heard that 3.7 is out and is unusable...Full of ads, bloated and more.