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Old 22nd May 2012, 20:20   #1  |  Link
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If you are a user of KMPlayer BE VERY CAREFUL!!

KMPlayer unfortionately is logging your activity in the playlist when you open any file in the playlist it send info to pandoratv or korean ip 61.9.111.180 or something like that ,creat a rule in your firewall to prevent kmplayer from accessing internet and watch the results , AND they mentioned that in thier privacy policy that they may collect data from user computer !!!

PLEASE tell every one about this until kmplayer owner change thier behavior


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Old 25th May 2012, 13:19   #2  |  Link
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wow....Are you sure the IP is correct? How you tested it? Good thing I do not have the latest version. Creepy.
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Old 28th May 2012, 19:31   #3  |  Link
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KMP is full of fail anyway, let it die.
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Old 6th June 2012, 17:21   #5  |  Link
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KMPlayer unfortionately is logging your activity in the playlist when you open any file in the playlist it send info to pandoratv or korean ip 61.9.111.180 or something like that ,creat a rule in your firewall to prevent kmplayer from accessing internet and watch the results , AND they mentioned that in thier privacy policy that they may collect data from user computer !!!

PLEASE tell every one about this until kmplayer owner change thier behavior


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I feel you, Bro! But who cares if they know what I am doing on my PC? Guess what, I too know what I am doing on my PC. Can you imagine that!Peace!

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I feel you, Bro! But who cares if they know what I am doing on my PC? Guess what, I too know what I am doing on my PC. Can you imagine that!Peace!
but do you know what they are doing on their pcs? Not fair!
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but do you know what they are doing on their pcs? Not fair!
They're peekin'. Right?! And again:Who gives a [] They're not the first paparazzos in my life I don't give a [] about! Don't panic!

Saludos i pozdrav and greetings to petran79 from Sarajevo!

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You're alert too? Will do!

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Old 12th June 2012, 02:47   #10  |  Link
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Hi all,

As a employee of KMPmedia, official distributor of kmplayer, our statement on this is as follows from our revised user agreement

"8. Data Collection and Use of Other Materials

As a part of support services of the Software, the Company may collect and use data from the Users’ PC. The collected data will be limited to the software’s version, installation, execution and
removal information."

http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22118

Hopefully that helps.
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Old 12th June 2012, 05:43   #11  |  Link
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It doesn't help.

What is "execution information"? Nobody wants you to have that information. Why are you collecting it?
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Execution information would be when program is started. We are collecting it for statistics to know where/when users are starting the program, that we may use it for actually further developing the program, in a way like to show other companies that we have a product which is used by many users in this world, so that we may partner with them to further enhance kmplayer.
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Old 12th June 2012, 13:48   #13  |  Link
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Then your user agreement is disingenuous, because you only say the information is "As a part of support services of the Software".
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Old 13th June 2012, 00:25   #14  |  Link
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That seems to be right, it is as part of the support services to make kmplayer better.
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Old 14th June 2012, 12:39   #15  |  Link
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That statement is wrong in many many ways.
  • It is unclear what “support services” means. “Use” is equally unclear. Which specific purposes is the data used for? Note espcially that “make kmplayer better” is not specific at all. Also, who exactly has or can gain access to the data?
  • What does “may collect” mean. Under what circumstances do you collect. How often? How long do you keep the data?
  • In addition to neuron2’s question: “Data” is completely unclear. The very general terms “version, installation, execution and removal information” hardly specifiy anything. Exactly what data do you collect?
  • How is the data transmitted and stored? What measures are in place to prevent unathorised access/use? At least for “where/when users are starting the program” we are talking about personal information, so security is especially important.
  • How can I disable the data collection?
Those are only the questions that pop into my mind immediately. There may be more. In its current form your statement basically says: “We may collect any information at any time and do anything we like with it.” That may be legal (IANAL) but it is carte blanche and user unfriendly in the extreme. I’m not a KMPlayer user at the moment and those kind of terms actively discourage me from ever even trying the software.
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if people are that worried they can block it in their firewalls or just add the ip's to the host file and point it to 127.0.0.1 - that way they can use the player and not have to worry about it phoning home, although the explanations given for it's reason seem shady at best to me
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if people are that worried they can block it in their firewalls or just add the ip's to the host file and point it to 127.0.0.1 - that way they can use the player and not have to worry about it phoning home, although the explanations given for it's reason seem shady at best to me
It shouldn't be the user's responsibility to do these things just because they don't want a program sending data about their usage habits. If the developers aren't honest and forthcoming about the whole process (preferably making it an opt-in setting instead of forcing it on everyone) there's no reason to use it over one of the many, many other programs for video playback that wouldn't do this kind of thing.

And if they're not going to make it opt-in (let's be realistic, they probably won't), they need to at the very least be very specific and detailed about what kind of information is collected, what safeguards they have in place against abusing it/violating their users' privacy, and exactly what they intend to use it for.

I would never use KMPlayer in the first place as I'm happy with MPC-HC, but the developer's replies in this topic aren't exactly doing a lot to allay my suspicions.
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I will try to get a better answer from the developer about this as soon as I can, hopefully it will clear things up more.
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Old 18th June 2012, 13:37   #19  |  Link
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There is nothing to block. Dwlete right away...

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I will try to get a better answer from the developer about this as soon as I can, hopefully it will clear things up more.
Any progress on that?
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