Any SW-player displaying 2 Subtitles stream simulaneously? (DVD)

[marsoupilami]

Hi there!

I'm looking for a software player (win xp) which is able to decode and show 2 subtitle streams simultaneously. (freeware preferred!)

Although this might sound a little crazy - but trying to learn another foreign language it would be very helpful for me. This way I could watch a movie listening to the spanish synchronisation and reading both the spanish AND the german subtitles for better understanding ....

Any ideas?

Many thanks in advance!
:)

[Shandra]

Maybe a bit late - and I never thought about that (curiously I always wanted such for 2 audio streams (downsampled to stereo and played back via 2.0 front and 2.0 rear) so that each viewer could choose it's preferred language) - but thats just as an anecdote). Can't offer a freeware, but my good ol' PowerDVD 5 is able of doing so for DVDs - but thats not suitable for non-dvd (afaik) content... but what did worked on my try with an mkv containing DVD subs was MediaPlayerClassic HomeCinema and FFDShow - internal splitter of MPCHC for mkvs, internal filters for the video-codec disabled... then selecting the subtitles via MPC-HC and through FFDShow Decoder and at least that's showing both selected subs - but the placement (and the possibilities to override it) seem to be limited - maybe that will work better for text subs instead of DVD ones (And I would bet for text subs it should be possible with an avisynth script as an alternative option)

[marsoupilami]

Hi Shandra! many thanks for your information!

I think that PowerDVD 5 came along together with a DVD burner a long time ago... I'll try to find the CD ...
Unfortunately I'm not very familiar with AviSynth scripts, but this is really a great idea which I never thought about!
What I have considered is combining two text subtitle files with a small (command line) program for displaying them the normal way (using VLC or whatever).

Thanks again!

[manusse]

Korean Media Play (KMP) was able to display many subtitle streams at the same time a few years ago...

[marsoupilami]

Thanks @manusse!

The Korean Media Player seems to be exactly what I'm looking for!
I couldn't check all the 1000 features until now, but I could watch the "built in" subs and "text file" subs together.

Btw. You write "SubtitleCreator's Co-Dev" ... Do you think it's possible to merge two *.sup streams (DVD) into one single file without decoding them to *.txt/*.srt? Is the "sup" format documented and public? (But I'm not really sure to start such a project ...)

Thanks again!

[manusse]

Do you think it's possible to merge two *.sup streams (DVD) into one single file without decoding them to *.txt/*.srt
You can do it using SubtitleCreator. It can even merge sup and srt.

Manusse

[marsoupilami]

Hi Manusse!

Thanks for your response!
Please let me explain what I mean ... maybe we are talking about different things.

I do not want to "join" or "append" two sup streams - I want to "overlay" them. That would require manipulating both "vertical offsets", "show & hide times" AND "overlaying" two graphics inside the *.sup file. That's why I was asking for a format documentation.
(I'm currently trying to find a similar solution for *.srt as a first step - this is my other thread here)

:)

[sinner_]

Thanks for sharing