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ybe
6th August 2010, 23:59
hello'
I look for a program that add permanent subtitle to mkv(also unicode).
Thank you
Keiyakusha
7th August 2010, 02:05
What do you mean by "permanent"? Mkvtoolnix is able to mux subtitles.
Ghitulescu
7th August 2010, 08:41
He means burnt-in, which question has been zillion times answered.
stax76
7th August 2010, 09:23
@ybe
Why not hardcode into the video? It works with the AviSynth plugin vsfilter, in StaxRip: Main menu > Tools > Hardcode...
I don't know much about forced subtitles in MKV, mmg has a 'forced track flag' option, BDSup2Sub can load image based subtitles from Blu-ray and DVD and flag all included captions as forced. I assume fewest if any player would handle it right, you still may try it or maybe somebody else knows more.
ybe
7th August 2010, 11:58
i will explain;
i want to convert mkv file+subtitle in hebrew to avchd, in order to see the movie in my blue-ray player.
i use avchdcoder but the subtitle outcome is gibrish.
i want hardcore subtitle in the mkv file , and then the convert will be only on the video file( the subtitle will be part of the file).
to do this ineed program the also can handle in unicoe(hebrew).
stax76
7th August 2010, 12:57
Most of what's needed can probably be done with MeGUI but it might be a little bit difficult if you don't know how it works. RipBot264 is much easier and can hardcode subtitles and output avchd. StaxRip cannot output avchd and would require to mux with tsmuxer manually.
ybe
7th August 2010, 14:13
. RipBot264 is much easier and can hardcode subtitles and output avchd. .
i try the ripbot264 the subtitle is still gibrish.
my gol is to merge the video file with subtitle(unicod) into new video file, and then convert the new videofile to avchd
Lyle_JP
7th August 2010, 17:33
Rip your subs to .ssa or .ass. Then search for Textsub() here on the forums.
Ghitulescu
8th August 2010, 10:09
I look for a program that add permanent subtitle to mkv(also unicode).
i will explain;
i want to convert mkv file+subtitle in hebrew to avchd, in order to see the movie in my blue-ray player.
You're confused and thus ask us incoherent questions.
MKV is not AVCHD. For AVCHD format you don't need burnt-in subtitles, normal PGS would work, if the player is tolerant (AVCHD does not allow subtitles), or variations thereof (BD, viera, AVCHD tolerant etc.). See here how to add subtitles to your original BD -> http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=150511
If you want burnt-in subs in MKV then follow the suggestions above.
ybe
8th August 2010, 22:27
Ghitulescu ,
i could not convert the subtitle(srt file) to sup , beacuse the program that i use do not support hebrew.
the sloution :to merge the srt subtitle into the mkv file and then to convert the mkv file to avchd.
Keiyakusha
9th August 2010, 00:10
srt in mkv will remain srt.
subs can't be permanent and unicode at the same time because permanent subs won't be text anymore.
if you want them to be permanent - hardsub - do what Lyle_JP advised.
Ghitulescu
9th August 2010, 08:25
Ghitulescu ,
i could not convert the subtitle(srt file) to sup , beacuse the program that i use do not support hebrew.
the sloution :to merge the srt subtitle into the mkv file and then to convert the mkv file to avchd.
And you believe that hard encoding the subtitles would do the trick? If you can't get them to PGS (sup) you can't get them hard encoded too, because it's the same: the software takes the text, makes a bitmap image out of it and superimposes it over the video frame. For soft subtitles (sup) it's the player that takes the bitmaps and over poses them over the video, during playback.
ybe
10th August 2010, 19:15
The trick is to use the subtitle in srt file by "burn" them on the avi file(encoded). and then to convert(rencoded) the file to avchd(no need to convert the subtitle because they are part of the avi file).
Ghitulescu
10th August 2010, 20:21
Soft PGS (DVD, DVB, BD & Co.):
- software takes SRT/ASS/SSA&Co text files and converts them to graphic bitmaps
- during play the player superposes the bitmaps over the running video.
Hard subs:
- software takes SRT/SSA&Co. and converts them to graphic bitmaps
- software decodes the video frame by frame
- software superposes the bitmaps over each corresponding frame
- software reencodes back the subtitled frame/s.
- during play the software plays the video as normal
As you can see, it's the rendering issue that has problem with Hebrew, because it's the common step for both methods and requires full support from the system (fonts, code page etc.). The green steps can be done in any language as they are not language dependent.
I know why you want burnt-in subtitles and this is not the reason. Try another one.
ybe
10th August 2010, 20:55
As you can see, it's the rendering issue that has problem with Hebrew, because it's the common step for both methods and requires full support from the system (fonts, code page etc.). .
when i convert mkv file+hebrew subtitle into dvd disc , the subtitle are fine( i use dvdflick or convertxtodvd).
the problem is the convert of the subtitle into sup(PGS).
setarip_old
10th August 2010, 21:02
@ybe
Hi! i use avchdcoder but the subtitle outcome is gibrish.
Try "multiAVCHD" instead...
Ghitulescu
11th August 2010, 07:45
when i convert mkv file+hebrew subtitle into dvd disc , the subtitle are fine( i use dvdflick or convertxtodvd).
the problem is the convert of the subtitle into sup(PGS).
Then it's easy: use BDSup2Sub. It will convert the DVD subtitles into BD ones.
ybe
12th August 2010, 22:25
Then it's easy: use BDSup2Sub. It will convert the DVD subtitles into BD ones.
BDSup2Sub convert BD SUP to dvd sub, i need the from srt to bd sup
setarip_old
13th August 2010, 00:21
Again, Try "multiAVCHD" instead...
Ghitulescu
13th August 2010, 07:38
I second multiAVCHD.
However, you said that you could obtain subtitles for DVD but not for AVCHD (or BD).
From the history of BDsup2sub:
Supported Formats
* Blu-Ray SUP: Import (since 1.0) and Export (since 1.6)
* Sony BDN XML: Import and Export (since 3.3.0)
* HD-DVD SUP: Import (since 1.9)
* VobSub (SUB/IDX): Import (since 3.5.0) and Export (since 1.0)
* DVD-SUP (SUP/IFO): import and export (since 3.9.0)
Besides BDsup2sub is internally used by multiAVCHD. :rolleyes:
ybe
18th August 2010, 22:27
i found sloution: convert the srt to idx(with aviaddsub), Now i need program that convert nkv to blu ray and support idx?
Niubility
10th September 2010, 10:36
Use mkvmergegui (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix) in the mkvtoolnix (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix) kit
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