Cinavia DRM protection

[Ch3vr0n]

@setarip_old: well my player is the panasonic DMP-BD85, couldnt find anything on the panasonic site about it. I've been scouting shops for it but so far all they have (even the video stores) is the disc on DVD :( so can't test it yet. Damn R2 :p

[setarip_old]

@Ch3vr0n

Read the following thread. Interspersed, you'll find references to "Cinavia-enhanced" hardware (I'm fairly certain no one's reported any Panasonic models as having it):

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155777

If your player is NOT listed, there would be no way for you to test your theory with that player.

[GaPony]

Cinavia will very likely be defeated before it becomes widespread, just like almost everything else. All you need now is an older BD player, or a newer digital media player to render it useless.

[JJB]

For Info:

I contacted OPPO about their new $500 player with this about Cinavia:

Last reply is first.




JJB,

Unfortunately we really can't comment on how we would implement Cinavia if we are forced to. This is a situation which we do not see occurring, and if it does, if the BDA will require that we push the firmware without the customer knowing about it.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119



-----Original Message-----
From: JJB [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Mon 12/20/2010 12:48 PM
To: OPPO Service
Subject: Re: BDP-93

I understand about the licensing agreement but will the consumer be able to identify what each firmware update consist of with the ability to update or not to update at that point.

The PS3 was updated with no knowledge as to what the up date contains and one was the Cinavia encryption.

Thank You

----- Original Message -----
From: OPPO Service <mailto:service@oppodigital.com>
To: JJB <mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXX>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 23:09
Subject: RE: BDP-93


The player does not support Cinavia copy protection nor are there plans on enabling this functionality. However, there is no guarantee that Cinavia will never become a part of the player, as if the BDA requires that this be added as part of their licensing, we will be forced to utilize it.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119



-----Original Message-----
From: JJB [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Sun 12/19/2010 4:45 PM
To: OPPO Service
Subject: BDP-93

Before I spend this kind of money I wish to know if the BDP-93 has Cinavia protection enabled or will it be by future firmware updates. I will purchase after your reply responds to no protection or the ability not to update the protection.

Thanks

[dvgeek]

Hope this helps all you super smart guys and gals :)

And of course that standard disclaimer applies - this is for education only - not to promote video piracy!

I have a PS3 with the latest updated firmware as my main player connected to my Home Theater. I also have a bedroom Sony BDP-S360 which has never played a commercial BluRay disk (so it's firmware has not been touched since leaving the factory), it is only used to play my BD9 backups. I also recently got a Neo550 which is hooked up to my Home Theater. My PS3 and Neo550 are connected via my Onkyo to my 67" TV via HDMI, and the BDP-S360 directly via HDMI to my 47" TV.

I'm a late entry to the Cinavia world (hadn't really been keeping up with news). My first Cinavia disk was Salt.

I rip all my blurays onto a hard disk using Slysoft's tools and then create BD9's with Atak's tool, keeping the original audio track (DDTrueHD or DTSHDMA).

So Salt arrived, and I ripped it - no issues there.

Created a BD9 with the DTSHDMA track - no issues.

Started watching the BD9 on my PS3 and about 20 minutes later - and Bamm - the Cinavia protection kicked in and audio got muted.

I still had the BD Rip on my hard disk (ripped to folder not ISO), so connected to the folder via the Neo550 and played the movie. No Cinavia protection - played the entire ripped movie with full DTSHDMA.

I put the BD9 that I could not watch on my PS3 into the BDP-S360 and again - no Cinavia - could watch the entire movie in the bedroom also.

So decided to bite the bullet and forgo the DTSHDMA track and created another BD9 - this time reencoding the DTSHDMA track into an AC3 track (thanks to Atak's toolset which makes this so easy).

Tested this new BD9 with re-encoded video and re-encoded audio on the PS3 - and I'll be damned - the Cinavia kicks in again.
So for now, it appears that the only solution to play ripped Cinavia disks is either through a BD Player without the latest firmware or a network player like the Neo550 (which may soon join the PS3 and become Cinavia compliant).

From the requests and talk on the Slysoft forums, it looks like they are hard at work (Godspeed to them).

Again - hope this long message helps.

Ciao.

[setarip_old]

@dvgeek

If you'd like to gain some more insight regarding "Cinavia" read the following thread that appears in the Doom9 Decrypting sub-forum:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=155777

[dvgeek]

@setarip_old - Many thanks - I'm quite a bit educated on Cinavia now - I'll be posting my questions and observations on that thread from now on.

[setarip_old]

@dvgeek @setarip_old - Many thanksAs always, my pleasure ;>}